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Supreme Court gives Monsanto license to do whatever the f%$# it wants

post #1 of 25
6/21/10 at 4:55pm
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Seven-to-one ruling to allow Monsanto to use genetically modified alfalfa. I don't know why the far right is so worried about fluoridated water being a Communist mind control plot when Monsanto is given free rein to do whatever it wants to our food supply. Granted, genetically modified alfalfa isn't as sexy an enemy as a Communist plot, but you'd think people at large would be concerned.
 

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Justice John Paul Stevens was the only justice to dissent. "It was reasonable for the court to conclude that planting could not go forward until more complete study ... showed that the known problem of gene flow could in reality be prevented," he said.

Alfalfa, which is used for livestock feed and can be planted in spring or fall, is a major crop grown on about 22 million acres in the U.S., Monsanto said in court papers. Monsanto's alfalfa is made from genetic material from bacteria that makes the crop resistant to Roundup.

Justice Stephen Breyer took no part in the case because his brother, U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer in San Francisco, issued the initial ruling against Monsanto.

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Edited by yt - 5/13/13 at 2:41pm
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post #2 of 25
6/21/10 at 5:06pm
Wow. If you want a poster child for a Evil Company, Monsanto fits the bill so well.
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post #3 of 25
6/21/10 at 5:28pm
Genetically alterd Alfalfa!?!?!



Sounds like a movie plot. Does he become some sort of super soldier?

Seriously though.. why is this bad?
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post #4 of 25
6/21/10 at 5:46pm
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Seriously though.. why is this bad?
GMO's usually cannot be replanted from the crop itself. This is done so that a constant revenue stream is created by the need to purchase new seeds.

Crops cross pollinate on the wind and these seeds often overtake the natural genetics of standard crops. As they do this the hybrid strain no longer will regrow from crop to crop.

This bodes very bad for the survival of anything that wants to eat when all this GMO crap destroys natural seedlings and the ability to heirloom a crop.

Why do you think governments are storing heirloom seeds all over the world and heirloom seed banks are the hottest item in the survivalist notebook right now?

I'm all for some corporations but GMO's are just fucking bad ideas.

*EDIT* Although it appears the ruling only covers the selling of GMO alfalfa. The USDA still has to approve planting it.
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post #5 of 25
6/21/10 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm View Post
GMO's usually cannot be replanted from the crop itself. This is done so that a constant revenue stream is created by the need to purchase new seeds.

Crops cross pollinate on the wind and these seeds often overtake the natural genetics of standard crops. As they do this the hybrid strain no longer will regrow from crop to crop.

This bodes very bad for the survival of anything that wants to eat when all this GMO crap destroys natural seedlings and the ability to heirloom a crop.

Why do you think governments are storing heirloom seeds all over the world and heirloom seed banks are the hottest item in the survivalist notebook right now?

I'm all for some corporations but GMO's are just fucking bad ideas.

*EDIT* Although it appears the ruling only covers the selling of GMO alfalfa. The USDA still has to approve planting it.
Also, Monsanto owns the DNA of this alfalfa. When their seeds get airborne and get into the field of the farmer next door, who has not paid a license to Monsanto and doesn't want to, they will sue him out of existence. This isn't conjecture, it has occurred.
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post #6 of 25
6/21/10 at 6:49pm
Food Inc. covers this pretty well, and is just a good doc in general.


Also, what horrible news. Yet again, business takes a big fat shit on nature and that's just supposed to be dandy because Free Market > everythingelse. Lovely.
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post #7 of 25
6/21/10 at 6:58pm
Note that Stevens was the only justice to dissent and he wasn't able to work his magic Svengali-like hold on Kennedy that Kagan is supposed to share. Kagan is even more of a Clinton era/Republican Lite "Democrat" than Sotomayor. We're headed straight for a completely right-wing court at this rate.
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post #8 of 25
6/21/10 at 8:38pm
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Also, Monsanto owns the DNA of this alfalfa. When their seeds get airborne and get into the field of the farmer next door, who has not paid a license to Monsanto and doesn't want to, they will sue him out of existence. This isn't conjecture, it has occurred.
yea, that happened up here in Canada to a Farmer in Sask. Not sure if it was Monsanto specifically, but a creator of genetically modified grain seeds.
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post #9 of 25
6/22/10 at 4:44am
Philosophically I'm not at all opposed to trying to 'influence' nature to better serve our needs. After all, that's the reason the human race has been so successful so far. This is just on a more fundamental level. We're just not displaying the appropriate amount of caution, oversight and ethics that messing with stuff this fundamental requires. Not even a tenth of it.
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post #10 of 25
6/22/10 at 5:02am
This is fucking bullshit its Tyranny straight up. What freedom what choice?

Again the elite corporate banks win.
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post #11 of 25
6/22/10 at 5:26am
Seed Shepherd?
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post #12 of 25
6/22/10 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by yt View Post
Seven-to-one ruling to allow Monsanto to use genetically modified alfalfa. I don't know why the far right is so worried about fluoridated water being a Communist mind control plot when Monsanto is given free reign to do whatever it wants to our food supply. Granted, genetically modified alfalfa isn't as sexy an enemy as a Communist plot, but you'd think people at large would be concerned.



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According to this guy, the head of the Center for Food Safety, Monsanto actually can't grow GMO Alfalfa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew..._b_620087.html

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It should be no surprise that Monsanto's PR machine is working hard to spin the truth in this morning's decision in the first-ever Supreme Court case on genetically engineered crops (Monsanto v. Geertson Seed Farms). Despite what the biotech seed giant is claiming, today's ruling isn't close to the victory they were hoping for.

The 7-1 decision issued today by the Supreme Court was on the appeal of the Center for Food Safety's (CFS) successful suit, which resulted in a ban on GMO alfalfa. And, while the High Court ruled in favor of Monsanto by reversing an injunction that was part of the lower court's decision, more importantly, it also ruled that the ban on GMO alfalfa remains intact, and that the planting and sale of GMO alfalfa remains illegal.

This point, which seems to be lost in some news reports, is actually a huge victory for the Center for Food Safety and - most importantly - for the farmers and consumers who we represent.
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post #13 of 25
6/22/10 at 12:05pm
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yea, that happened up here in Canada to a Farmer in Sask. Not sure if it was Monsanto specifically, but a creator of genetically modified grain seeds.
It was Monsanto.
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post #14 of 25
6/22/10 at 11:39pm
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Originally Posted by yt View Post
Seven-to-one ruling to allow Monsanto to use genetically modified alfalfa. I don't know why the far right is so worried about fluoridated water being a Communist mind control plot when Monsanto is given free reign to do whatever it wants to our food supply. Granted, genetically modified alfalfa isn't as sexy an enemy as a Communist plot, but you'd think people at large would be concerned.



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Bought and fucking sold.

One step closer to that mega-corp controlled cyberpunk future really.
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post #15 of 25
6/23/10 at 4:09am
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It was Monsanto.
ah ok. thanks. fucking Monsanto
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post #16 of 25
6/23/10 at 8:54am
I'm more of "fuck the court" as well.
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post #17 of 25
3/28/13 at 7:48am

How Monsanto outfoxed the Obama Administration:

 

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/15/how_did_monsanto_outfox_the_obama_administration/

 

EDIT: Oh, and this:

 

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/27/how_the_monsanto_protection_act_snuck_into_law/

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post #18 of 25
3/28/13 at 8:26am
I wouldn't call it outfoxed I'd more say since the Obama has been in office his administration has been like high scale call girl with differing rates for what positions corporate interests want which the Administration would perform. Hell the only reason they are doing anything on marriage equality health care reform or pathway to citizenship is because there are tons of money in doing those positions. Socialism my ass! More like crony capitalism.
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post #19 of 25
3/28/13 at 9:23am

While the Obama admin. can share some responsibility regarding this Monsanto debacle, it should be noted that Monsanto has been doing shady shit for decades in DC to say nothing of the crap that they have done all over the world.

 

Like many other multinational corporations, they seemingly live beyond the idea of nation states...they get financially penalized in one country, they just pick up and move to a more 'friendly' ($$) country.

Many of these corporations are like the Hydra of legend, cut off one head and 2 more pop up.

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post #20 of 25
3/28/13 at 2:17pm
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Many of these corporations are like the Hydra of legend, cut off one head and 2 more pop up.

 

Or like Hydra from Captain America.

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post #21 of 25
3/28/13 at 2:25pm
So apparantly Obama has just signed it to law. What a corporatist hack! But more of rage goes to Senator Roy Blunt. What a scumbag he is the lowest of the low and apparantly the amendment was written by Monsanto. I don't know what can really be done now, I guess their could be a Supreme Court challenge questioning the constitutionality of the amendment but honestly doubt that would be accepted by this court. What an unfortunate day. Oh Roy Blunt is a piece of shit! And this why we can't let the senate to back to the GOP control.

http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-bill-blunt-agriculture-006/
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post #22 of 25
3/29/13 at 8:18pm

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post #23 of 25
5/13/13 at 2:10pm

Monsanto wins again:

 

http://gma.yahoo.com/indiana-farmer-loses-battle-against-monsanto-160751858--abc-news-politics.html

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post #24 of 25
5/13/13 at 2:40pm
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I read an article from a questionable source that I wish were true: that Putin was throwing down the gauntlet about Monsanto and GMO nicotinoid (sp?) pesticides responsible for the bee-pocalypse.  Monsanto, Dow Chemical, Bayer, and the others are all public enemy #1 imo.  I'm not surprised that the Supreme Court went their way -- they always do.  Thomas is a former Monsanto lawyer.  *&^%er.

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post #25 of 25
5/14/13 at 11:06pm

As evil as Monsanto is, this farmer isn't some innocent small-time farmer who accidentally re-planted patented seed and got the shaft for it. He bought the mixed seed hoping that some of it would be of the Round-up Ready variety, planted it, and then deliberately sprayed the crop with Round-up and kept the survivors to get their seed for re-planting. If he'd kept the mixed crop and re-planted those seeds (which probably would have cross pollinated, transferring the Round-up Ready gene to the non RuR crop), he probably would have gotten away with it.

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