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Sense and Sensibility (1995)

post #1 of 16
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With Emma Thompson, Hugh Grant, Kate Winslet, directed by Ang Lee, etc, etc.

As stated in in "Movies you watch over and over again" I think this is one of the perfect films. Not only as an adaptation (per Thompson's commentary, with little actually straight from the book) but as one of those perfect period films, a 'romance' and just as a straight film.

The entire movie feels like a painting rather than a film regarding the use of color, framing and composition. Not only is it a romance and a drama, it's also 'clever' and comedic. I hardly think there's a weak link and everyone's so great that it's impossible to single out any one performance over another.

There's little to no fat despite the lingering shots over the landscape accompanied only by music, there's Alan Rickman just being a god and there's something just....very organic about the whole production.

Being so much a labor of love for Thompson, who wrote and labored over the screenplay for years...I think that really shines through the film. Her commentary for the DVD with producer Nora Dolan? I believe is one of the best available - easily ranking with the Schwarzenegger/Milius from Conan.

After reading the commentary and watching the film, I think what sets this from others is the layers within. There are reasons everything is as it is - for example, Thompson recalls an anecdote that since the Dashwoods are now rather impoverished, they wouldn't have been able to afford treats and pies therefore during a picnic scene, she went out of the way to remove all the pastries that had been laid out.

Or when she instructed the woman who played Fanny Dashwood to give some off the cuff remark about some books in a library, "These are all foreign"

Even sans the commentary, a scene that always struck me was Willoughby and Marianne sitting, where he cuts off a bit of hair all under the supervision of the elder Dashwood ladies. It isn't much, but that moment left an impression on me.

I've also heard, per the commentary and elsewhere, that despite being a chick flick, the arc they inserted with Colonel Brandon (Rickman's character) resonated with the male audience in a way similar (but superior) to the Queen Gorgo in 300 insomuch as that it was not in the book and was wholly invented by the film to appeal to the audience of the opposite sex. Thoughts?

All in all, one of my favorites and I really think one of the best of its kind. Especially when compared to the lush if soulless Vanity Fair.
post #2 of 16
Ok. You convinced me. I'm going to add it to the queue and go outside of my comfort zone and watch a period piece. But so help me, if I end up choking on melodrama, I'm coming back in here.
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
Ok. You convinced me. I'm going to add it to the queue and go outside of my comfort zone and watch a period piece. But so help me, if I end up choking on melodrama, I'm coming back in here.
Same. I'm trying to break out of my "THEM MOVIES IS GAY" mindset, and I didn't know that Ang Lee directed this.
post #4 of 16
This film is fantastic. It's emotional, but it's also got a great sense of wry/dry humor. Plus Alan Rickman and Hugh Laurie!

I remember reading about how the movie executives (or producers, not sure) approach Thompson about adapting her screenplay for the film based on the novel... into a novel. "You've got to be kidding me," she said. Love her.
post #5 of 16
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Then my job here is done. But in all seriousness, you've got nineteen year old Kate Winslet and you have the 'nice guy who usually finishes last' getting the girl and ending up with a happy ending (Rickman's Colonel Brandon)

Nooj! Thank you for reminding me of Hugh Laurie! He's got the caustic, dry humor of House, but in his native accent! (also, was a roommate of Stephen Fry about this time. Again, Emma Thompson tells a story about losing the screenplay on her computer and taking it to Fry, who was living with Laurie, to retrieve it. Them Brit actors got an awfully tight circle going on)
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Originally Posted by Wayward_Woman View Post
you've got nineteen year old Kate Winslet and you have the nice guy who finishes last getting the girl and ending up with a happy ending (Rickman's Colonel Brandon)
What're you trying to say!? Hahaha

To be honest, I actually haven't seen this film since high school during an english class. And my positive memories of the film stem from that viewing. But if memory serves, EVERYONE in class enjoyed the film. My friend and I LOVED Hugh Laurie's moments. I should check this out again. Truly, you did your job.
post #7 of 16
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Are you trying to say that Kate Winslet isn't hot? Hrm? Hrm?
post #8 of 16
I was sold at nineteen year-old.



And Kate Winslet.
post #9 of 16
Actually, I probably didn't find Kate Winslet particularly attractive until she gained a more mature look to her.
post #10 of 16
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True. I mean, it isn't her most....attractive role? They do stick pretty close to the no-makeup rule, and her hair is often this mass of tight curls...she looks....unfortunate on the cover of the DVD.


But she's just so heartbreakingly sweet as Marianne. Effervescent, even.
post #11 of 16
I love the no-makeup look. Anyway, I'm gonna have to give the film another look before saying anymore about it.
post #12 of 16
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Alright boys, class in session.

Did we see the movie yet? What did you think about it upon (re-in the case of Nooj)watching it?

I expect a full rundown if you want to earn your A.

post #13 of 16
I tried watching it on Instant but the lack of subtitles and my poor hearing means I'm going to have to wait for the dvd to arrive on queue. The first 10 minutes seemed pretty fun, though.
post #14 of 16
Aw a thread about this movie warms my heart. I was trying to decide between watching Girl With The Dragon Tattoo or Drunken Master 2 tonight. I may end up just popping this in instead.

Also, how have I owned the DVD all these years and never realized Thompson had a commentary on it?
post #15 of 16
I should add Emma Thompson's "breakdown" moment at the end onto one of those "Moments that make you tear up," threads.

The film is as delightful as I remember and watching it a little over 10 years after that first viewing has allowed me to appreciate it more.

Every one of Hugh Laurie's moments had me cracking up again and again. I swear that Imelda Staunton even did one of her Dolores Umbridge giggle-squeaks several times.

As for your point about the addition of the Colonel Brandon character... The main difference between that character and Queen Gorgo of 300 is that Emma Thompson's additions were actually an engaging part of the story instead of a TOTAL BORE. No surprise. For one, everybody loves Alan Rickman (who's too damned nobly dashing for words) and Brandon's situation is one that any guy could relate to (just look at the Broken Hearted Chewer Support thread!).

One thing I've felt (probably subconsciously back when I was younger) is that I never really 'bought' the pairing of Marianne and Brandon. Probably the age difference between the actors (and the fact that Thompson and Rickman play a married couple years later). But I think that's very much the point. Obviously, in terms of conventional movie romance pairings, Willoughby is the perfect match. And the film doesn't play that down. In the realities of the period the film takes place, Willoughby was in fact... GASP... sensible! It even goes so far as to have Brandon show a lot of leniency in judging him.

As far as cinematic romance goes, there's really no sense of passion/heat between Marianne and Brandon. Just mutual admiration and affection. And that's not the kind of romance I often see in movies. But one of the film's many charms is that it doesn't leave you to feel that the pairing is a compromise. It's still romantic and the happiness is earned.

Though... during Hugh Grant's scenes, I often wanted to shout, "STOP STAMMERING AND LET IT OUT, YOU FOOL!!!!!!"

And it's taken me 10 years to appreciate how lovely the 19 year-old Winslet is in this. I think my imagine of the Young Winslet is usually that of Titanic and her porcelain doll make-up. Which I don't like. Why don't I just imagine her Titanic nude scene, you ask!? Because that would be most improper! Colonel Brandon wouldn't do it! And so shan't I...

This really should be on blu-ray.

EDIT: Just looked up the film's blu-ray prospects and found something very odd. Check out the Estimated Release Date for pre-order.

http://www.buy.com/prod/sense-and-se...202604527.html

HUH!?

EDIT2: Wayward... so what part of Brandon's arc did Thompson fabricate for her adaptation? At first I thought you meant that the character was entirely made up for the film and was never in Austen's novel. Some quick Googling tells me that this isn't the case. So is it just the crowd-pleasing ending he gets at the end?
post #16 of 16
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Well, I believe it's scenes like the one between him and Sir John, and certain conversations that take place about his background. I need to reread the book because I haven't read it in forever, but he is much more in the background. I believe even his introduction is fairly different, and just most of the scenes that involve him. His character isn't really fabricated, but his arc is.

Towards the end with Marianne and Brandon, I always felt there was a degree of settling. He loves her, adore hers, and she's content with that. It plays into the whole "Love is an ever fixed mark" and....yeah. It's a romantic affection rather than passionate. That it is a compromise, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

But glad you enjoyed it!
I checked out the 2008 miniseries with Dominic Cooper, and while it might be more faithful to the book in theory, there is a lack of charm, of humor completely missing. The only interesting thing it did was give Willoughby a more byronic dimension.

And I swear to god anyone who has a sister needs to see this movie to understand them. God, some of the moments are almost eerie in their verisimilitude.

Also, check out Emma Thompson's acceptance speech. This woman loves Austen, and it really shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5prY...eature=related
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