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Point and clickers, interactive movies, timewasters. Whatever you call them, they're the relatively short, puzzle-laden, backstory dependent games primarily popular in yesteryear, though they continue on today (though largely on PC).

Most of the time they borrow from other genres, be it a clunky combat system or some first person tendencies.

Some of my favorites are the old classics: Laura Bow series, Gabriel Knight, King's Quest.

More recently, I've dabbled in The Longest Journey, Dreamfall, and the newest to fall on my plate: Mata Hari. Usually they're detective stories, and more than a few are notable for pioneering more mature themes in their games (the now laughable to look at "Phantasmagoria" I believe was one of the first to feature relatively graphic sex/rape.)

So name your favorites, discuss the unique appeal of the genre and the issues therein.

I'll put one out there. I just finished Mata Hari (Betrayal is only a kiss away!). As somewhat of a bellydance/history buff, she's always been a fascinating figure. It had a surprisingly modern? mature? attitude in not shying away from the fact she was more prostitute than dancer, though there were no sex minigames. Dug the costume change,s but I"m shallow like that. I believe my ultimate favorites are tied in Dreamfall/TLJ...but this was short and sweet. I'll be playing the dancing minigame forever, and I'm tempted to go through multiple playthroughs to see all the different outcomes.

Addendum: I believe Indigo Prophecy/Heavy Rain belong in this category as well. I believe they're the only major releases considered to be as straight adventure as they come.
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MonkeyIslandDayOfTheTentacleGrimFandango

Now that that's out of the way, let me re-remind y'all about Zombie Cow Production's games, Ben There, Dan That and Time Gentlemen, Please! which I believe are free and $5, respectively.

BTDT is short but quite amusing, but TGP is a full fledged, 15-20 hour epic, deeply indebted to the LucasArts adventure games but featuring some seriously creative puzzles of its own. And as much as I am digging the episodic TellTale games, they unfortunately lack those hours-long, epic puzzle arcs where you're carrying twenty different items in your inventory and don't know what the fuck to use where or on what. Time Gentlemen Please has that.

It also has some stomach-turning puzzle solutions. *shudder*

Wayward Woman, I keep forgetting to get around to playing Dreamfall, but I played The Longest Journey when it first came out a million years ago. Had some infuriating puzzles but the game really stayed with me, nonetheless. I think it was just such a refreshing setting and protagonist for an adventure game. Along the same lines, Syberia isn't my favorite in terms of puzzles, but it has atmosphere up the wazoo and is worth playing for that alone.
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I've been playing adventure games since I bought my first pc (the TI-99/4A -- Thanks, Bill Cosby!), and I've been playing them ever since. Loved all the games from Infocom, Trillium, Lucasarts, you name it. I've got several Sherlock Holmes games on the drive right now, as well as Tales of Monkey Island, the Penumbra series, a couple of gothic-style murder mysteries, and a Dracula game.

As far as I'm concerned, I'll always find time for a point-and-click adventure.


EDITED TO ADD: Pretty sure we had an adventure game thread 'round here, hopefully I can link to it.
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MonkeyIslandDayOfTheTentacleGrimFandango
You forgot Sam & Max, The Dig and Full Throttle.

Goddamn, Lucasarts used to be the KING.
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Yeah I'm LucasArts bitch in this thread, Monkey Island 1 & 2 of course, Full Throttle fo sho. Then of course there was Sierras output that essentially invented the genre in the 80's. I still have a big old soft spot for the first Leisure Suit Larry to this day.
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Day of the Tentacle is a lovely game, Grim Fandango is lovelier.

I never considered myself a true adventure game fan though because, DotT aside, I always look up walkthroughs. I'm terrible at the games.
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Yeah I'm LucasArts bitch in this thread, Monkey Island 1 & 2 of course, Full Throttle fo sho. Then of course there was Sierras output that essentially invented the genre in the 80's. I still have a big old soft spot for the first Leisure Suit Larry to this day.

http://www.sarien.net/ where you can play Leisure Suit Larry in the land of the lounge lizards again.

Good old adventure games, I still have a soft spot for the Space Quest series, Beneath a Steel Sky and everything Lucas Arts.
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Speaking of Sierra games, this adventure, King's Quest: The Silver Lining will be available for FREE on July 10th.
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You forgot Sam & Max, The Dig and Full Throttle.

Goddamn, Lucasarts used to be the KING.
And we all forgot Maniac Mansion. Shame on us.

Since we did have a LucasArts love-in fairly recently, and without starting another videogame hate thread, let's feel free to discuss exceptionally shitty adventure games or puzzles you've had the misfortune of enduring, as well.

I remember seeing no more than three screens of a Scott Adams adventure game featuring the Fantastic Four back when I was about eight years old. The game started out with The Thing sinking in a tar pit, and you had about ten turns to figure out how to free him before he drowned. I never, ever solved it. The game just sat there, mocking me for my entire childhood. You could switch to the Human Torch, but he was too weak to pull The Thing out himself, and of course igniting the tar was not helpful.

Proving that you can Google anything these days, I finally found the solution last year. You could drop a rope into the tar pit, which I had figured out, and when The Thing sinks under the tar, you have to tell him to HOLD BREATH (really?!), and then, in perhaps the lamest solution in adventure game history, tell him to.. REACH AROUND. (Really, Scott Adams? REALLY?!) And then, presumably, you can get on with your shitty adventure.

I have to say, I sleep a little bit easier now.
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...feel free to discuss exceptionally shitty adventure games or puzzles you've had the misfortune of enduring, as well.

Trillium put out several adventure games for the C-64, and their Perry Mason (look him up, kids!) game was just ball-bustingly hard. Naturally, it's a courtroom drama that also involves detective work, but I swear I couldn't get Mason to open his mouth in court without getting a sustained objection (against him), an overruled objection (against him), or some other trial misconduct. I began to wonder if the makers had ever even seen the movies, the show, or read the books.
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The first three Myst games are fun stuff. The first two created a great two-parter where you were drawn into this little epic of a man against his family, eventually becoming the unwitting Frodo that could. The third one has Brad Dourif and polished presentation.

The latter half of the series fell into New Age bullshit. Myst IV ends with a fucking stupid Freaky Friday scenario, Uru was a disaster that went nowhere, and Myst V was an attempt to make some kind of profit on unused Uru material.
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There's no adventure game I love more than the first Gabriel Knight. mature storytelling, great voicecast, lovely pixelart animation. It was right at the end of the great adventure game era, I'd have preferred the sequels to have been the same point and click style instead of FMV Myst-style for part two and ugly 3D for part three. both sequels have very solid gameplay and storytelling though (well, mostly, the "Wagner" opera performance in two is HILARIOUS). I really wish they'd make a fourth one, or a remake of the first like they did with Monkey Island 1 and 2, with the old version just a button press away.
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Police Quest 1 (EGA - text parser baby!) and Mean Streets were the first two games I got as a birthday present along with my ancient dos based computer with a black and white monitor. I've been more partial to the Sierra games than LucasArts ones (I own most of the Monkey Island games, but Full Throttle and Grim Fandango are the only ones I've actually finished). Also love the FMV Tex Murphy trilogy (UAKM, Pandora Directive, and Overseer). The latter two hold up fairly well today and are totally worth the price on GOG
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The best modern one I've played is Machinarium. One of the most beautiful 2D adventures I've ever seen, and shows up the genre's shift into 3D as the trend-following insecurity it was. It's built as much around old fashioned logic puzzles rather than your usual point and click item combos etc, but I love logic puzzles so it's all good.

Also have to throw out some love to Revolution. Not so sure about their later 3D efforts, but Lure of the Temptress, Beneath A Steel Sky and the first two Broken Swords are just wonderful. Probably some of the earliest games that aspired to a halfway credible level of non-comedy writing.

Even though the first Monkey Island Special Edition was kind of a mixed bag, I'm almost unreasonably excited about the sequel coming out today.
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There's no adventure game I love more than the first Gabriel Knight. mature storytelling, great voicecast, lovely pixelart animation. It was right at the end of the great adventure game era, I'd have preferred the sequels to have been the same point and click style instead of FMV Myst-style for part two and ugly 3D for part three. both sequels have very solid gameplay and storytelling though (well, mostly, the "Wagner" opera performance in two is HILARIOUS). I really wish they'd make a fourth one, or a remake of the first like they did with Monkey Island 1 and 2, with the old version just a button press away.
Agreed, Sins Of The Fathers really was quite special - and for its day, a damn good looking game to boot.

The less said about the next 2 instalments, the better.

I'd love to see an update, but they would have to keep the voice performances. Tim Curry and co were tits.
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I practically grew up on adventure games. I remember playing a ton of Sierra ones, including Mixed Up Mother Goose of all things. My favorites were the different Quest series. Of those, I probably played Police Quest 2, PQ4, Space Quest 1, Space Quest 2, and Space Quest 6 the most.

I have fond memories of Hugo's House of Horrors, although I couldn't really tell you who made it. Also, ZZT probably fits into this category. That game had some fiendish puzzles in it.

I will also second the love for the Zombie Cow games. "Ben There, Dan That" and "Time Gentlemen, Please!" are both hilarious and have some interesting puzzles.

ETA: I forgot to mention really liking Laura Bow 2. It had a great mystery setup to it including having to put the whole thing together at the end. If you didn't pay attention during the game, it was pretty hard to put all the evidence together in the final sequence. Also, "Please not to touch me! My wife very jealous woman. No hanky panky in store, okay?" has stuck in my mind ever since.
post #17 of 50
Adventure Games will always be my favourite sort of game. DotT, Grim Fandango, Monkey Island, the Tex Murphy games. The list goes on and on. I dig games that involve thinking rather than running around and shooting shit (though those can be fun too).

Haven't played a good one in ages though. Any other recent adventure games you guys have played?
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The less said about the next 2 instalments, the better.
Eh? How so? I thought GK 2 and 3 were both really strong games
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Eh? How so? I thought GK 2 and 3 were both really strong games
I'm curious to how others feel on this as well. I don't particularly like the two sequels either but I think that had to do more with production values/personal feelings. I mean the first is just so good. Hard for sequels to match.

I will say that Gabriel Knight 2 is the only game I've ever needed a walkthrough for due to the tape splicing puzzle.

Also, pretty amazed we got this far without a mention of Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. Lucasarts has been getting its due in the thread, no doubt, but still worth a solo mention.
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What is the best Adventure Game on the 360? Is it the reincarnated Monkey Island? I want a "classic" adventure game I can boot up on my console without having to use my PC. Being able to download it via LIVE is a plus also. Should I get MI, Same & Max, etc? Thanks.
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What is the best Adventure Game on the 360? Is it the reincarnated Monkey Island? I want a "classic" adventure game I can boot up on my console without having to use my PC. Being able to download it via LIVE is a plus also. Should I get MI, Same & Max, etc? Thanks.
If you've never been to Monkey Island, then by all means get it. The remake works well enough on the 360 and it's a game that needs to be experienced any way you can. That goes double for LeChuck's Revenge.

Are the new Sam and Max on LIVE now? They're a lot of fun, but it really takes until the second "season" to really take off (and I'm not just saying that because I won them in a CHUD sponsored contest. But it helps). The first season is certainly funny, but a bit too "samey" from episode to episode.
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The Special edition of Monkey Island 2 is out today on most formats. Essential adventuregaming.
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I own every single Lucasarts adventure game (the cd versions), and bought them off steam again; Day of the Tentacle remains my favorite, with Sam & Max, Monkey Island and Full Throttle behind it.
As far as favorite of the genre, that award goes to "The Longest Journey"; anytime someone asks me why games dont have well developed female protagonists, i point to that game; the sequel, "Dreamfall" was good, and it had sme great moments (the ending is heartbreaking, god dammit).
Also much love for the GK series (the first one will always be the best Sierra game), Kings Quest and Space Quest; hell, I owned and loved the hell out of Rise of the Dragon.
However, the most disturbing and fucked up game in the genre will always be "I have no mouth and i have to scream"...to this day, im scared of Harlan Ellison's voice.
As far as making ammends on games i never played, I got Sanitarium of GOG last week; im in for a treat, it seems.
Also, I just realised i have Overcloked installed in the PC, and never played it.
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What is the best Adventure Game on the 360? Is it the reincarnated Monkey Island? I want a "classic" adventure game I can boot up on my console without having to use my PC. Being able to download it via LIVE is a plus also. Should I get MI, Same & Max, etc? Thanks.
Get the MI games, asap, also, I "think" the xbox version of Dreamfall works on the 360; im not sure.
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Get the MI games, asap, also, I "think" the xbox version of Dreamfall works on the 360; im not sure.
Yes, it's backwards compatible. You can even buy it on the Xbox Live marketplace.
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I never considered myself a true adventure game fan though because, DotT aside, I always look up walkthroughs. I'm terrible at the games.
I'm the same way. My brother and I got into a LOT of trouble by racking up the phone bill by calling the Lucasarts hotline for Fate of Atlantis and Day of the Tentacle. I can't even replay some of the games without looking at walkthroughs. I suck man. But I loved it all.
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I'm the same way. My brother and I got into a LOT of trouble by racking up the phone bill by calling the Lucasarts hotline for Fate of Atlantis and Day of the Tentacle. I can't even replay some of the games without looking at walkthroughs. I suck man. But I loved it all.
I own most strategy guides for Lucasarts games because they were awesome; loved the little novelizations they did of the plot, the bonuses, the comics and the dehind the scenes looks. (I own the ones for Mi2, IJ:FOA, DOT, FT, Dig, etc)
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This far and absolutely NO mention of INFOCOM?

For shame, gentlemen...FOR SHAME!!

(...and for the record, "Suspended: A Cryogenic Nightmare".)
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This far and absolutely NO mention of INFOCOM?

For shame, gentlemen...FOR SHAME!!
I for one, believed we were just sticking to point and clik here.
Fine, as far as Infocom is involved, id say my favorite IF game will always be "A Mind Forever Voyaging".
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This far and absolutely NO mention of INFOCOM?

For shame, gentlemen...FOR SHAME!!

Third post, dude.

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post #31 of 50
Longest Journey & Everything Lucasarts pretty much. Also, when younger I found Leisure Suit Larry to be hilarious. I doubt that's quite the case now.
post #32 of 50
If we're talking text adventures, I spent a ton of time playing the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy game back in the day.
post #33 of 50
No mention of the great BLADE RUNNER adventure game from the 90s? For shame.

Would DEJA VU fit here? It was one of the few completely engrossing games we had on our Mac SE.

All the rest of my favorites have been mentioned. As a sci-fi loving nerd, SPACE QUEST is the one that stands out the most in my memory.
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If we're talking text adventures, I spent a ton of time playing the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy game back in the day.
I would had mentioned if not for "Wait, you didnt pick you mail? well, earth's gone, england's gone, your house's gone and your mail is gone...youre fucked, buddy".
Kids these days have it all too easy with this checkpoints and extra lives nonsense.
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No mention of the great BLADE RUNNER adventure game from the 90s? For shame.
Oh shit! I can't believe I forgot that one! In fact, I think I still have my copy lying around somewhere.

The Blade Runner game definitely deserves more love than it seems to get.
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Is it me or is it more typical of adventure games to have female protagonists? Not to mention women behind the creating of games in this genre.

Or at least, fully fleshed out female protagonists (TLJ and Dreamfall, Laura Bow, Syberia, etc.)
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Is it me or is it more typical of adventure games to have female protagonists? Not to mention women behind the creating of games in this genre.

Or at least, fully fleshed out female protagonists (TLJ and Dreamfall, Laura Bow, Syberia, etc.)
Thanks. Now you've just saddled me with a list of games to play.

My own Adventure game experience is limited to Maniac Mansion and The Dig. But my love for The Dig is so great that I'll hack an iPod or a PSP just to play it.

I only played Maniac Mansion recently and that was because of this.
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The Special edition of Monkey Island 2 is out today on most formats. Essential adventuregaming.
Well I know what I'm buying when I get home.

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Longest Journey & Everything Lucasarts pretty much. Also, when younger I found Leisure Suit Larry to be hilarious. I doubt that's quite the case now.
...but it had lubbers in it! LUBBERS!

post #39 of 50
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Maybe because I'm besotted with the history of it, but I did enjoy Mata Hari. I hear the same company did a game called Vampyre Story that was a rather amusing sendoff of various vampire cliches.

What I enjoyed about it was the rather frank treatment of the protagonist's sexuality. Is it titillating? Sure. But she's no naive ingenue or completely depraved hooker with a heart of gold. It struck me as really appropriate for the era.

Sorry, maybe it's because bellydancing is a hobby of mine, but the game's sort of my thing at the moment
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If we're talking text adventures, I spent a ton of time playing the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy game back in the day.
My enjoyment of this game was improved massively by the fact the version I had had an inbuilt hints system, which also included a gigantic 'things to do for fun' list as well as a list of all the guide entries. It made it so much more fun, partly cos the puzzles are freakishly obtuse, and partly cos there are a billion hidden jokes in that game I'd never have found without it. Sadly most versions that are easily available these days don't seem to have it.

As for other text adventures, as I kid I was a big fan of Magnetic Scrolls, a slightly obscure british designer behind games like The Guild Of Thieves and Corruption. Corruption was actually a brilliant concept that I've never seen done elsewhere. The game takes place over several hours with the same progression of events every time, and with each turn taking a minute of game time. The puzzles play like a game version of Groundhog Day - you have to figure out what's going on, what the characters are doing and at what time and place, and foil an attempt to frame you before it actually happens.

I gave MI2 special edition a quick whirl last night. I don't know why they insist on redesigning Guybrush to nothing like the original graphics every time, but for the most part it looks and sounds lush and seem to feel more or less 'right' in a way the first special edition often didn't. Elaine's voice still sucks, though, and I'm sure Stan's does as well. Which numpty got it into his head that the character was supposed to being talking slowly?
post #41 of 50
Lots fo good stuff has been mentioned in here so far. Lots of classics. The updated Monkey Island games seem to be a good way to re-introduce people to them. With the second one available now I'm going to have to get it on the 360.

The genre is not as strong as it used to be, but there have been a few more recent games that are worth a look. Syberia and Syberia 2 were pretty interesting, with some nice visual design elements as well. I think they can be found bundled together in a jewel case pack for a great price.

And it's been mentioned plenty, but The Longest Journey is amazing!
post #42 of 50
Anybody else a "Last Express" fan?
It is basically a espionage thriller set on board the Orient Express right before World War One. What one of the interesting things in the game design is the graphics are designed to look a lot like what popular art in 1914 looked liked.
And"Sanitarium" is a Great Adventure game.
BTW a lot of these games can be had for around Six Bucks and adapted to play on a modern computer at GOG>
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Anybody else a "Last Express" fan?
It is basically a espionage thriller set on board the Orient Express right before World War One. What one of the interesting things in the game design is the graphics are designed to look a lot like what popular art in 1914 looked liked.
And"Sanitarium" is a Great Adventure game.
BTW a lot of these games can be had for around Six Bucks and adapted to play on a modern computer at GOG>
Always wanted to play Last Express but never found a copy of it...I had Sanitarium, started it a couple times, always wound up dropping for something else when I made it to the Carnival area. Might have to pick it up on GOG and give it another go..
post #44 of 50
There's a version of Hitchhiker's Guide with graphics here- http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/game.shtml
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Is it me or is it more typical of adventure games to have female protagonists? Not to mention women behind the creating of games in this genre.

Or at least, fully fleshed out female protagonists (TLJ and Dreamfall, Laura Bow, Syberia, etc.)
Nowdays, yes, but in the 90's with Lucasarts and Sierra, no.
post #46 of 50
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Anybody else a "Last Express" fan?
It is basically a espionage thriller set on board the Orient Express right before World War One. What one of the interesting things in the game design is the graphics are designed to look a lot like what popular art in 1914 looked liked.
And"Sanitarium" is a Great Adventure game.
BTW a lot of these games can be had for around Six Bucks and adapted to play on a modern computer at GOG>
Love the Last Express. I still have the discs for it, not that I can play them on any of my machines anymore.
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Love the Last Express. I still have the discs for it, not that I can play them on any of my machines anymore.
Really? Last Express is a pretty forgiving game as far as liking modern systems go, and if you have the original release, that has a DOS version and DOSBOX is your friend.
GAMETAP is selling it and is listing it as compatible with VISTA so you should be OK for WIndows 7.
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There's a version of Hitchhiker's Guide with graphics here- http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/game.shtml
Here's an indy style fan remake:
http://www.bigbluecup.com/yabb/index.php?topic=33810.0
post #49 of 50
Since all my favorites have already been brought up (LucasArts, Gabriel Knight, Space Quest), I'll add The Journeyman Project series. It's a first-person time travel adventure. Might not be the best, but I sure enjoyed each one. The first wasn't that great, but the second and third were pretty epic in scope.
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Anyone here play the Ben Jordan series? It's a long-running series of adventure games by indie creator Grundislav Games. A nice little throwback to the old-school Lucas Arts style, featuring some fun characters and environments. They can be a bit rough around the edges, but hey they're free. You can download them from the link:

http://www.grundislavgames.com/benjordan/

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