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Suicide Kings (1997)

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
I was reading through Phil's "Buying BluRays/DVDs You Don't Like" thread and this movie seemed to win the award for "Movie owned by the most people that is liked by no one." But it still didn't win Phil's thread because, for the most part, no one remembers buying it. Copies of it are... obtained. Given as a gift, packaged with a better movie, Christopher Walken for $3.99 is hard to pass up, old gypsy woman slipped it in your bag...

Whatever the reason, let's talk about why this movie exists and why it sucks so bad.

I'll just toss out a couple of ideas and leave the rest to y'all because you are much better at this whole movie thing than I am.

1) The terrible, terrible music. There is not a "suspenseful" scene that goes by without an overbearing "suspenseful" music cue to indicate how you're supposed to feel. That and the terrible song accompanying the terrible scene with the one douchebag and his girlfriend the "kidnap victim" make this a very bad movie.

2) Pulp Fiction cash in. Clearly this is one of the films inspired, partially in content and completely in narrative structure, by the success of Pulp Fiction. Hardnosed yet likable gangsters driving around talking about inconsequential things, the flashback story telling. It's pulp fiction powered by prep school kids. It's so incredibly blatant and so very poorly done.

3) The lack of likable characters. How is Denis Leary the only really likable guy in the movie? Denis Leary? The one person who seems halfway grounded in morality and reality is Ira and they go and make him a complete spaz.

4) Dialogue written to be performed in Intro to Acting classes. The movie is 75% monologues which can be chopped up and performed in about 2 minutes. I was done with my intro to acting classes by 97 but I absolutely promise you, if this movie was around, every guy that aspired to soap opera work would be working on a piece from this. Avery begging for his life at gun point, Jay Mohr describing how bad Walken really is, Leary talking about his dad and "the gene."

Appropriately, none of the writers of this movie ever went on to write another feature film. The director appears to have one more feature on his CV but after that it's nothing but television.

Still... Walken is fun in this. That alone makes it worth owning in my opinion... especially as I got it packaged with Rounders.

Edit: To fix grammatical ambiguity. I am sure that many of the people that own the film are liked.
post #2 of 14
Hey, I inexplicably own this as well! Haven't seen this since I first got it. As you mentioned, all I really remember is a fun Walken performance. And really wanting to punch Johnny Galecki. I rented it and my mom really liked it, so I think I bought it for her at Blockbuster really cheap. Neither of us ever watched it again.

Seems like for the best.
post #3 of 14
I think it's scientific law that if someone owns and likes this movie, they also own THE BOONDOCK SAINTS.
post #4 of 14
Its one redeeming virtue is that it led to Jay Mohr's classic "Your Dog Has No Tail."

Still the best Walken impression.
post #5 of 14
I own this. I don't own (nor have I seen) The Boondock Saints.

I haven't seen it in years but remember that it tried too hard and is probably the only movie in existence where you can see Brad Garrett get shot in the head and scream like a bitch before he dies.

I also remember that Denis Leary and Walken were good in it.
post #6 of 14
Agree on Leary and Walken, but the twist is lame, and those 2 get what they deserve at the end.

Yeah, this isn't a good movie, and I should have tossed it on the pile of movies I had my girlfriend offload for me, after she cherry picked the ones she wanted to keep. Although I don't think she would have kept this one. Maybe I'll skim through it again, but I bought it in 2003, saw it once, and filed it away. Don't have the urge to revisit it.
post #7 of 14
Utter shit.
post #8 of 14
I inexplicably own this as well. And Boondock Saints. I believe I bought both on the recommendation of family members who I will never listen to again. Suicide Kings has the distinction of being bad but watchable thanks to a somewhat charming and likable cast (i.e. Walken). Boondock Saints has the distinction of having never been finished by yours truly.

For some reason, whenever I see the case for this staring at me, I want to watch Sneakers.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Funny. It made me want to watch Cloverfield.
post #10 of 14
It made me want to watch SUPER MARIO BROS. Looks like someone doesn't have their DVDs alphabetized!
post #11 of 14
THINGS TO DO: Kick MikeI's non-alphabetizing ass
post #12 of 14
Lazy sonovabitch.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
That's quite an assumption to make. Maybe I only own three DVDs. Cloverfield, Suicide Kings and Zathura.
post #14 of 14
Well at least you have one good movie in there.
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