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post #51 of 58
7/9/10 at 10:21pm
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Assuming the media reports are true, (and that's a big if these days) the violence was cause by out of town WHITE people who were there to incite violence and looting.

Yes the residents are pissed, but this whole thing seems a lot more sinister the more info comes out.
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post #52 of 58
7/9/10 at 10:38pm
I'm just wondering, but for those that think this was a miscarriage of justice, are you pointing towards a particular aspect of the trial for this case? I mean, was the prosecution incompetent, intentional or not? Was the jury paid off, or prejudiced in some way? Is it the notion that trials shouldn't be decided by juries?
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post #53 of 58
7/9/10 at 10:48pm
It's the overall culture which allows for white police officers to almost universally get away with, or get handed light sentences, for murdering unarmed black and brown men. The fac that some (and this isn't a strawman, I've been hearing this all day in the news) are lauding this verdict as a step-forward because the officer at least got convicted of something, shows the sad state of this kind of an affair.

There's a tape of the shooting widely available on line. After the initial incident, the motherfucker fled to Arizona. For the first several months afterwards, he used the excuse of "I thought I saw him reaching for something", despite the fact that the man had his hands cuffed behind his back.

I don't know why the jury gave the verdict they did, but I don't think we're being overly cynical to see it as white cop= not accountable.
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post #54 of 58
7/9/10 at 11:05pm
Jesus christ this was not an accident
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post #55 of 58
7/10/10 at 5:05am
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Originally Posted by Z.Vasquez View Post
It's the overall culture which allows for white police officers to almost universally get away with, or get handed light sentences, for murdering unarmed black and brown men. The fac that some (and this isn't a strawman, I've been hearing this all day in the news) are lauding this verdict as a step-forward because the officer at least got convicted of something, shows the sad state of this kind of an affair.
Even without looking at incidents in which racial issues can play a part, it seems to be a rather regular occurrence for a police officer to overstep their boundaries without having to worry about proportionate consequences for their actions.
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post #56 of 58
7/10/10 at 11:09am
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It seems to be an accident to me, I'm not sure what benefit there is to an officer who knows that there are onlookers that might have cell phones recording to actually purposefully pulling a gun and shooting a handcuffed teenager.
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For "The Cynic", you sure do not live up to your name

As I said, I think the officer was a psycopath. We have troops who snap in Iraq and murder innocents. We've all seen the videos of "contractors "murdering people willy nilly... taken by the contractors themselves! The only difference is that instead of Haditha, this white guy with a gun and a uniform ended up going nuts in the hood. You don't need to follow the news very closely to have noticed that the police often talk about the urban enviroment as if it were a war zone... this is the logical result from such thinking
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post #57 of 58
7/10/10 at 9:47pm
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1. The jury had not one Black person on it

2. I think there is a prejudice (I mean literally "Pre Judgment" ) that a Police officer using Deadly Force has a reason to do so.

3. Most of the people on that Jury most likely "Pre-Judged" Oscar Grant because he was "acting up", had spent time in jail and the general scene was chaotic

A Black female ex-Police Officer called into a local radio show that discussed the incident and trial verdict and said (paraphrasing) " if you are Black you DO NOT talk back to a Police officer. White's get away with it, Blacks do not. Period. It's not right, it's not fair, but that is the way it is. You've got to decide if mouthing off is more important than your life".

Pretty brutal
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post #58 of 58
7/12/10 at 2:26am
It sucks to have your life taken, and it sucks even worse to have your life taken by some gun crazy, smart ass, authority craving, pretentious asshole.
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