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"I DID MY WAAAITING!!!!  TWELVE YEEEAAARS OF IT!!!! .......... IN AZKABAAAHHHHNNN!!!"

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"I DID MY WAAAITING!!!!  TWELVE YEEEAAARS OF IT!!!! .......... IN AZKABAAAHHHHNNN!!!"

 

Ha. I love that scene. Even Thewlis goes a bit cartoon villain in the face of Oldman's performance.

 

"Well, well, well, HER-MION-EEE!"

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Just watched the first Deathly Hallows entry as I have come to realize I have never seen the final two films. Watching it last night I realized that after Askabahn I grew increasingly weary of the blue gradient the movies were taking on and the darker aspects taking over. I prefer the brighter gee-whiz aspect of magic.

Why is everything so blue? Jesus, I get it, the world is getting darker because of Voldemort's return but the world is not blue. Ever.

Also, was it just me or did this movie suck? And was way too long?
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Ha. I love that scene. Even Thewlis goes a bit cartoon villain in the face of Oldman's performance.

 

"Well, well, well, HER-MION-EEE!"


I love the brief interplay between Rickman, Thewlis, and Oldman.  Snape says that Lupin and Sirius are bickering "like an old married couple," and Sirius tells Snape to "go play with his chemistry set."

 

That stuff's on-the-nose, but it really does hammer home the childish animosity these characters (well, Snape and Sirius, really) still have for each other.

 

And question:  does Snape at that moment think Sirius really was the one who sold out the Potters?  Or, since he was once part of Voldemort's inner circle, does he know it was Peter Pettigrew?  It's never been clear to me if Snape always knew the "truth" of that situation, or if he - like the public at large - thought Sirius was the true turncoat.  It certainly gives the Shrieking Shack scene some extra energy if he thinks he's face-to-face with one of the people directly responsible for Lily's death.

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Currently trending at #2 on Youtube at the moment is an Italian Fan-made movie about Voldermort, called Voldemort: Origins Of The Heir!

 

 

 

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I love the brief interplay between Rickman, Thewlis, and Oldman.  Snape says that Lupin and Sirius are bickering "like an old married couple," and Sirius tells Snape to "go play with his chemistry set."

That stuff's on-the-nose, but it really does hammer home the childish animosity these characters (well, Snape and Sirius, really) still have for each other.

And question:  does Snape at that moment think Sirius really was the one who sold out the Potters?  Or, since he was once part of Voldemort's inner circle, does he know it was Peter Pettigrew?  It's never been clear to me if Snape always knew the "truth" of that situation, or if he - like the public at large - thought Sirius was the true turncoat.  It certainly gives the Shrieking Shack scene some extra energy if he thinks he's face-to-face with one of the people directly responsible for Lily's death.

I don’t remember what the books say, but it’d be pretty harsh of Dumbledore to have left Sirius in Azkaban for a dozen years if he and Snape knew the truth.
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I don’t remember what the books say, but it’d be pretty harsh of Dumbledore to have left Sirius in Azkaban for a dozen years if he and Snape knew the truth.


Yeah, when you frame it that way, there's no way they could have known.

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I think the subtext, particularly in the book, is that the Potters and the Order so trusted Peter that they wouldn't dream of thinking him a traitor. 

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I think the subtext, particularly in the book, is that the Potters and the Order so trusted Peter that they wouldn't dream of thinking him a traitor. 

I've always wanted to know a lot more about Peter in that era.  His characterization in the present day just seems so far away from anyone that the Marauders would ever consider to be one of their closest and most trusted friends.  We can surmise various things about how he "turned," but a lot is left unsaid.

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I've always wanted to know a lot more about Peter in that era.  His characterization in the present day just seems so far away from anyone that the Marauders would ever consider to be one of their closest and most trusted friends.  We can surmise various things about how he "turned," but a lot is left unsaid.


Yep. Even in the Snape's Worst Memory flashback, he comes across as less of a friend and more of a hanger-on, IIRC.

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Yep. Even in the Snape's Worst Memory flashback, he comes across as less of a friend and more of a hanger-on, IIRC.


Yes, and that's the perception that pervades the thinking of most fans.  Just being a hanger-on doesn't really add up with the responsibility he was given, though.  I feel like Peter might be a remnant of an earlier "take" on the series that Rowling had where the characters were far less complex (i.e. the whole series in the style of the first two books), and she never really managed to bulk him up, dramatically-speaking, to the standards of the rest of the characters.

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I've been slowly going through the series on HBO.  It's been a few years but my rankings have held pretty firm so far. 

I finished Order of the Phoenix the other night and Christ, I thought that movie was a crushing bore in 2007 and very little has changed. 
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I finished Order of the Phoenix the other night and Christ, I thought that movie was a crushing bore in 2007 and very little has changed. 

 

Thank you.

 

With the exception of the Dumbledore/Voldemort face-off, it just is an absolute snooze-fest. 

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I knew my feelings of ORDER OF THE PHOENIX being one of the lesser movie entries were on the money!

 

YEH!!!

 

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It done gave us Luna and Umbridge, ya ingrates.

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YEH!!

 

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Also introduces Tonks.

And oh my uuuuunnnnnnnggggggghhhhhhh Tonks.
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Luna is no lie one of the best characters in the movies.

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It's also, as I mentioned in my rankings, the entry where it stops feeling like the plot is entirely something that happens to Harry, but something he is actively having an effect on.  His development into the leader of the Hogwarts resistance is a satisfyingly organic way for him to transition from wide-eyed ingenue to a formidable wizard in his own right.  Umbridge is a terrific creation not just because she is so memorably and idiosyncratically unctuous, but because she is a perfect bridge villain while the main cast is not ready to tackle Voldemort head on.   While a horrendous educator herself, she actually serves to dramatize what a formal education is supposed to do.  Her reign over Hogwarts both raises the stakes of the classroom stuff (which had always been more of a buffer between the kids and the "real" conflict of the series), and accidentally turns the entire school into a lower-stakes dry run for the full blown Muggle Holocaust of Hallows.  Her attempt to deny the kids a practical education inadvertently spurs them to take matters into their own hands and get some real world experience, which is wonderful thematically while also being a necessary structural bridge to develop the helpless runts we've been following into a viable front line for the final act of the overall conflict. 


Edited by Schwartz - 1/14/18 at 6:56pm
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Also introduces Tonks.

And oh my uuuuunnnnnnnggggggghhhhhhh Tonks.

 

Huh?  Tonks?

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Huh?  Tonks?
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Could have played Viserys. 

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Could have played Viserys. 

 

Actually played Osha.

 

 

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Actually played Osha.

 

 

 

 

Looked better in Potter. 

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