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Isreali Court Sets Interesting Precedent In Rape Trial

post #1 of 32
7/21/10 at 8:07am
Thread Starter 
And by "interesting", I mean "What the fuck?".
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post #2 of 32
7/21/10 at 8:35am
If we're not allowed to lie how will we ever get laid?!

Seriously though, I take moral issue against what he did, but convicting him of rape is preposterous, disgusting and nothing more than pure racism. It'd make a tiny bit more sense on her part if she were a religious Jew but seeing as she's having pre-marital sex with guys she's just met, she obviously isn't.
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post #3 of 32
7/21/10 at 8:36am
So wait, would he still be going to jail if he was an arab but his name really was Daniel?

For fucks sake.
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post #4 of 32
7/21/10 at 8:39am
Obtaining sex under false pretenses is rape? Shoot, that would incriminate many an alcohol-fueled hook up. They singled out race, but I wonder if they could extend it to lying about one's employment or education level? The mind boggles.
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post #5 of 32
7/21/10 at 8:57am
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Commentator Gideon Levy said: ‘I would like to raise only one question with the judge. ‘What if this guy had been a Jew who pretended to be a Muslim and had sex with a Muslim woman?
‘Would he have been convicted of rape? The answer is: of course not.’
There you have it.
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post #6 of 32
7/21/10 at 8:59am
How does one get laid without lying exactly?
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post #7 of 32
7/21/10 at 9:43am
With a fuckload of money.

OF JEWISH MONEY!
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post #8 of 32
7/21/10 at 9:45am
Well, to play Devil's advocate...I, um...

Wait, there's really no way to finish that sentence.
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post #9 of 32
7/21/10 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by The Closer View Post
Well, to play Devil's advocate...I, um...

Wait, there's really no way to finish that sentence.
Sure there is.... JAKE, GET IN HERE!
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post #10 of 32
7/21/10 at 11:47am
Hey, more "Jake is a rapist" jokes! Always fresh and exciting!

EDIT: post/avatar
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post #11 of 32
7/21/10 at 11:48am
Thread Starter 
It doesn't even make much sense. If you're a rapist, why would anyone call on you to defend a court decision which is unjust towards the alleged attacker? Surely you'd be the *last* person on the court's side. I am bamboozled.
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post #12 of 32
7/21/10 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
Hey, more "Jake is a rapist" jokes! Always fresh and exciting!

EDIT: post/avatar
Damn, that's right. I forgot I swore off those.
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post #13 of 32
7/21/10 at 12:02pm
Its racist and retarded. And its bound to be turned over at appeals, no way a decision like this will be upheld, although you never know in Israel.
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post #14 of 32
7/21/10 at 12:35pm
Mel Gibson's stock just went up a bit, amiright folks?
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post #15 of 32
7/21/10 at 12:35pm
Buncha anti-Semites in here. Israel is never wrong!
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post #16 of 32
7/21/10 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Buncha anti-Semites in here. Israel is never wrong!
The question I have pertains to this particular quote from the honorable judge:

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Judge Segal said: ‘The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls.
Is the court in Israel an adjunct to the Church in Israel? As far as I was aware, the purpose of the court was to interpret the laws of the land. The sanctity of one's soul really shouldn't figure into it.

ETA: Granted, the Muslim States have the law and religion all entangled and shit. I just never figured that was the case for Israel. Could just be a bit of myopia on my part.
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post #17 of 32
7/21/10 at 1:53pm
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post #18 of 32
7/21/10 at 2:09pm
This ruling effectively makes Lot's daughters rapists.
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post #19 of 32
7/21/10 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
This ruling effectively makes Lot's daughters rapists.
Well they kind of already were. They got their dad drunk before hand, remember? I don't think they ever pretended that they weren't his daughters.

God damn, the bible is dirty.
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post #20 of 32
7/21/10 at 2:27pm
I thought they got him drunk so he'd think they were his wife.
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post #21 of 32
7/21/10 at 2:29pm
I don't think folks in the bible look at the warm body next to them before having sex with it.

Jacob had this problem when he was given Leah instead of Rebeka, and he didn't bother to double check who it was before the wedding night.


Back on Topic: If this was a Israeli man and a Palestinian woman we never would have heard a thing.
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post #22 of 32
7/21/10 at 2:43pm
If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated,' [the judges] added.

And:

After striking up a conversation, the two went into a top-floor room of a nearby office-block and engaged in a sexual encounter

Edit: for some reason I can't used the "quote" option, when I do I get a message saying my post is too short.
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post #23 of 32
7/21/10 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by yt View Post
...?
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post #24 of 32
7/21/10 at 3:31pm
Israel blows it again! It's a good thing the judicial systems of the rest of the world are so perfect. I know that here in the USA we've got everything figured out.
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post #25 of 32
7/21/10 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Israel blows it again! It's a good thing the judicial systems of the rest of the world are so perfect. I know that here in the USA we've got everything figured out.
What does this have to do with the subject of the thread?
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post #26 of 32
7/21/10 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
...?
Consequences will never be the same.
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post #27 of 32
7/21/10 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
It's a good thing the judicial systems of the rest of the world are so perfect. I know that here in the USA we've got everything figured out.
Of course! We should just ignore all injustice in the world until everything everywhere is just fucking perfect! Only then can anyone question Israel! Brilliant!
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post #28 of 32
7/21/10 at 5:24pm
This ruling does sound similar to certain parts of the American justice system a few decades back when inter-racial couples could be prosecuted - it's just weird to hear a western nation still having this issue.
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post #29 of 32
7/21/10 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
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That gif needs its own discussion thread but basically 4chan made an 11-year-old girl cry and when her dad went ballistic over it, he became this year's Chris Crocker.
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post #30 of 32
7/21/10 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by The Alexor View Post
If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated,' [the judges] added.

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After striking up a conversation, the two went into a top-floor room of a nearby office-block and engaged in a sexual encounter
I couldn't believe when I read this in the article. That load of bull is actually how they tried to justify "rape" in this case. This woman seems both stupid and vindictive. Well, she did cooperate which makes it nowhere near rape.
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post #31 of 32
7/24/10 at 5:33am
More juicy details.
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post #32 of 32
7/24/10 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by Evi View Post
If we're not allowed to lie how will we ever get laid?!

Seriously though, I take moral issue against what he did, but convicting him of rape is preposterous, disgusting and nothing more than pure racism. It'd make a tiny bit more sense on her part if she were a religious Jew but seeing as she's having pre-marital sex with guys she's just met, she obviously isn't.
It actually seems like the precedent set here is that anyone who has sex with her is committing rape, since the only possible justification for the ruling is that she's too stupid to be considered a consenting adult. What he did was wrong, but in no way against the law.
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