4chan wrecks an 11 year old girl's life - Page 2  

There's no such thing as epithets no 11 year olds should know.

well you know what... CONSQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!

Get AIDS and die.






please don't 4chan me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYrlj9VE2fg

I don't know why, but I couldn't stop laughing at this.

Ah, cool, high five and all that.

Exactly. Had she gotten raped or killed would you guys still be playing the "No sympathy" card?

ETA - of course you wouldn't, that was obviously a rhetorical question. Point being, why would it take a tragedy happening to change your opinion?

I don't understand why being an annoying kid equates to any mob justice. She's ELEVEN, and apparently has stupid parents, these people are ADULTS. I understand that this is how the internet works, and that people are generally terrible, but I don't understand how anyone here can defend adults acting this way.

So let's burn her arm off to show her that fire is bad.

I just don't understand the logic, of posting ANOTHER video after all that happened? I mean, what does she expect to happen now?

and thats why I have little to no sympathy for her. She and her parents saw what happened after she posted that one video, so lets go do it again?

I'm not saying what she did was smart or that her parents handled it in the best way necessarily - but, still. There is NOTHING she did that warrants the doors that were forced open into her life. It's like telling the girls not to wear a short skirt because they might get raped instead of, you know, TELLING GUYS NOT TO RAPE.

no one is saying what 4chan did was right, or justified.. but why, for the love of god, would she post another video after that? With her parent partaking in it nonetheless? I mean, that is just dumb.

I'm with NickP. How on God's green Earth do her idiotic parents live with themselves? They're clearly not worried at all about the way their daughter is being treated, because they just keep letting her do it. The police need to teach her parents about the internet, not the girl.


Also, where the hell did she learn the language she uses? I mean, I knew things when I was 11, but that was because my dad and uncles had foul mouths. This girl's father didn't seem to be where she got it. I mean, "YA DUN GOOFED UP." Who says that?

You're right, it is the duty of a bunch of other people on the internet to make sure this child learns a lesson in respect for her elders. If she was raped or murdered it really would've been her fault for being an eleven year old brat.

What if it was your kid?

You're totally saying she deserved this treatment, you're just not saying it in so many words.

Goddamn.

did you even read what I posted? I asked WHY she posted another video? She and her family obviously didn't learn that there's a bunch of a-hole people on the inernet who have nothing better to do then torment them, so let's bait them again? Why?

I also do see some irony in people getting all up in arms about a profanity ladden "fuck the hataz" video being uploaded to YouTube. Actions have consequences, sure, whatever, but that type of shit is just bread and butter to YouTube, the site that regularly features what I can truly call the dumbest discussions I've ever seen on the internet. Frankly, I think she was pretty justified in believing that this particular action would have no consequences attached - people post videos as hateful, or more, than her little tirades there on a daily basis, and a lot of mutual mud slinging aside, no one gets punished for that, nor have I noticed anyone parading it around as a serious societal ill. I mean I guess if she had been trolling some site where actual grown-up discussion takes place I'd be more able to partake in the general schadenfreude.

So it's not really what she did that pisses people off, and more what she is - obnoxious, spoiled, loudmouthed, inconsiderate. Sure. And I guess that the idea is that exposing her to these same qualities is gonna make her reassess her own. But this strikes me as a pretty wrong-headed educational strategy at best; it's like beating a kid up to teach them a lesson about bullying. I can understand how it might be tempting but constructive it ain't.

Really, if I were her the real lessons I'd be taking out of this would be "don't post your personal info on the internet" and "don't accept friend requests from strangers on FB".

So yeah, this worked like a charm in scaring her to death (and Schwartz, I really don't see how the fact that a kid's paper trail is relatively concise figures into this - picture yourself at 11; there are people who hate you, they know your name, they know where you live. You know nothing about them. How is that not terrifying?);but ultimately it has given her YouTube stardom beyond her wildest dreams and, who knows, perhaps a juicy reality show in her near future. So yeah, you could say she learned her lesson.

Well, if we're gonna play with rhetorical situations here, let's say she had gotten up on stage during a school assembly and told her friends, peers, school officials, parents, and general passers by that anyone who taunts her, she'll pull a glock, and shoot them in the fucking head. Would we still be so willing to chalk that up to being dumb and eleven?

And for the life of me, I don't see anyone in this thread saying that 4chan was completely in the right here. But it also says something that after months of these videos, 4chan called her out on it before any "rational" adults did. That's fucking pathetic for everyone.

way to put words in my mouth...

I;m not saying she desrved anything, a child petting a dog doesn't deserve to get bit, but it happens. You just don't see that child rushing to pet any dogs soon after.

no one has, and no one will. Not having sympathy for her, does not mean we liked what happened, or endorse it. It's called living and learning, and sometimes people get that life lesson in harsh doses. It sucks, but it's life.

How does any of this not equate to 'The kid did it twice, and she earned this treatment'?


No eleven year old deserves death threats as a hard life lesson. Did this happen to you in your childhood? When you did something good a whole group of adults you've never met sent you death threats?

From the sound of it, she's done it more then twice, that this was an escalating thing that her parents were well aware of.


She can go on the internet, act like she's some adult, talk like she's some adult, but can't take adult consquences. Sorry if I don't feel bad for her. Sucks that it happened, but she's not a victim, she's an instigator. 4chan took it to the next level and then some, but she was well aware of the escalation. She's eleven yes, but that doesn't mean she has the metality of a 6 year old. She is well aware of the youtube enviroment, as well as the internet enviroment. live and learn, and hopefully she learned this time, before something bad happens.

Gabe, you're being confrontational just for the sake of it. He isn't saying that she deserved death threats. No one in their right mind would say that. He's simply saying that she should have known better than to continue her actions once she saw how people were responding.

That being said, fuck 4chan.

well, I never went on a worldwide public forum, tell people I was going to shoot them with a gun, then express me desire for them to suck my dick then to get aids and die. To me, she gave death threats well before 4chan did. I think the worst thing I ever did, was flip off a high schooler when I was 12, and then got my ass kicked the next day for it. Guess what, I didn't flip any high schoolers off after that either.

and also, the death threats she got, were fabricated by her hillbilly father.

Your utter misunderstanding of children kind of scares me. Also, something bad did happen, and it's not stopping just because she is. What about the adults at 4Chan being held responsible? You keep dismissing their behavior as normal for the site, when its fucking revolting shit.

Gabe, I am now on your side.

"But your honor...just look at the video! She was askin' for it!!"

for the record, I think what 4chan did was disguisting. I just think she's a brat, and shouldn't be viewed as a innocent in this whole matter. Moreso for her parents, talk about unfit. But I guess any mother who lets her daughter get her lip pierced isn't a mothe of the year canidate.

I'm not being confrontational for the sake of it. I'm being disgusted by this behavior. Since when do we hold children accountable for being dumb in this sense? I've worked with children for years. My mother writes books about working with children. The appropriate way to deal with this is to ignore her, not feed her, then think this is somehow the natural state of the world.

Edit: No worries Matthew. I really just want Nick to think about this rather than reacting to a bratty kid like she's a contributing member of society. The parents are fucking this up, though, I hope that isn't being missed in my statements.

but he knew what backtracing was?

Hate to stress the "it's YouTube" point, but if we extend the metaphor, YouTube would be a school assembly where 60% of these friends, peers, school officials, parents and general passers by would already be shouting similiar profanities at each other. Which wouldn't excuse her actions completley, but it would raise the question of why she'd be singled out.

Hell yeah she deserved it. This is a person who has gone her entire life with zero understanding of the word "consequence". Her parents have served the world up to her on a platter to the extent that she literally thinks she's the greatest person on Earth. They've created a clinical sociopath. And no, that ISN'T what everyone is like at 11.

If the situation were different, my reaction would be different. I figured that kind of goes without saying no matter what the topic. I'm assuming this is pretty much over (and that the thing about the death threats being an exaggeration was true, as that makes a huge difference), and the actual damage didn't rise above inconvenience and embarrassment. That being the case, my reaction is that I hope she at least learned something from the whole deal, even if it's only that the internet is full of monkeys flinging poo at each other. As for the monkeys themselves, well, they're monkeys. I don't hold out much hope that they'll grow into rational adults at this point.

Because clearly that post was a ringing endorsement of 4chan's harassment. Come on.

forget the 4chan stuff for a second.
If this was a boy, and he made a youtube video saying most of the profane stuff she said, all you would be saying what an asshole the kid was. But because someone took it further, that being 4chan, you are making her into the victim.

any adult is well aware from growing up, what escalation is. They may have been mad, I would be too, but they should have taken a deep breathe, and realized "maybe posting ANOTHER video isn't the best idea".

The amount of hate directed towards 11 year olds on CHUD recently is bizarre. Is this girl better or worse than Jaden Smith?

No, I get it, I get it. They're cocky.

But you can't forget the 4chan stuff BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STORY IS. Oh my God, really? You guys realize that what you're saying is that her being angsty and foul-mouthed on the internet is SOMEHOW WORSE than a bunch of anonymous people opening her up and making her available and vulnerable to the entire world.

Nope. A child is a child.

I bet her parents have said the same thing -- "She's 11! Why should she have any responsibilities whatsoever!?"

There's a strange current going through here that should probably be put on hold - being disgusted by a group of adults harassing a child for being especially annoying doesn't mean you don't think the kid isn't fucking annoying. It means you expect adults to be adults.

When a group of adults (to be generous) decides to harass a child for doing something stupid, my first reaction isn't to question the child's behavior. Because it really doesn't matter what the kid did, adults mobbing up on a child is not a justifiable response in any case outside of Firestarter.

Your responsibilities at eleven don't typically include the possibility of a lynch mob.

oh, I can't talk in hypotheticals, but you can throw out the "what if she was raped" card.?

oh, so being a child, means you are free of consquences. I don't even think disney is that ignorant.

You're goddamned right - because the actions of 4chan could very realistically (and still could - because they're obviously not gonna move and her address is still out there) get her harmed. She was put in harm's way the minute that shit got posted.

The only harm HER actions could have caused? Getting on your nerves. How in the motherfuck is that equatable?

You seem to understand the word consequence as meaning "worst possible outcome." There are degrees here. Not to mention consequences that actually encourage development rather then satisfying some nasty primal urge of internet dwellers.

Edit: Also, if the discussion is focused on consequences, the actions of of the 4chan folk are equatable to harassment, which is an actual crime rather than an annoyance. I don't understand why that doesn't draw the same fiery rage and pious cries for responsibility.

The biggest issue of all is that her parents have the same emotional maturity she does. It's obvious where she got the lesson that yelling curses at stuff is the best reaction. If they had been doing their job, there would be no need for the lynch mob.

I do agree on the part about the girl being full of herself. She thinks people should know who she is and what she is about. She refers to herself as perfect very often. That isn't how a typical 11 year old thinks. God knows it wasn't how I thought at the time. That's when I started getting all self-conscious, not telling people I'd blow their heads off with a fucking glock.

That being said, fuck 4chan again. In the face this time.

and nothing happened to her, she got some harrassing phone calls, and some prank videos done of herself.

You are acting like Ted Bundy targeted her. The death threats she got too, were a lie.