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post #101 of 332
Thanks to KCET being majorly funky right now, they're showing Rain Man (Rain Man!) instead of this. Sherlock is instead showing on KOCE, which DirecTV doesn't get in HD. Way to go LA market.



I mean, I shouldn't be complaining, because I've already managed to see the whole series, but it would've been nice to watch it in HD in my living room.

EDIT: NVM. KOCE is in HD. They were just playing some weird standard def program earlier.
post #102 of 332
Awesome to finally see this on a large screen and in full rather than in small chunks on YouTube. Still love the end to the first ep and the confrontation between Mycroft and Sherlock and showing them both to be childish even with their genius.

"Try not to start a war before I get home - you know what it does to the traffic."
post #103 of 332
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Awesome to finally see this on a large screen and in full rather than in small chunks on YouTube. Still love the end to the first ep and the confrontation between Mycroft and Sherlock and showing them both to be childish even with their genius.

"Try not to start a war before I get home - you know what it does to the traffic."
I love that bit too, at first I thought that character was going to be Moriarty, so it was nice surprise that he turned out to be Mycroft.
post #104 of 332
I woke up on Sunday to find the first episode waiting for me on XBox. The high of seeing Holmes in action again and performed and presented with such enthusiasm, brilliance and wit, almost ruined my enjoyment of The Walking Dead. Which played achingly slow after Sherlock. Very different shows, but I was almost all smiles during Sherlock. I love that Holmes' Science of Deduction still has relevance in modern society. And the show's fearless steps to portray the true Conan Doyle Holmes with his arrogance and childish attitude at times are extremely refreshing. Sure, all us sociopaths out there feel a connection, but we're half crazy. Watson is supposed to be our "everyman" guide. I'm sure I'm just repeating shit, sorry.

Then on Monday, after the update, there was the second episode. Pretty great. Slightly more ridiculous than the first, but I enjoyed it none the less. I'll have to watch again, ...

**SPOILER** for I missed the relevance of spray painting the message on the brick wall and then covering it up. And never explaining how it disappeared. But the gag payoff was brilliant! **END SPOILER**

Freeman is just a joy to watch, that bit on the stairs while their waiting for his date was so corny, but still got me. Gemma Chan as Soo Lin Yao was gorgeous and I can understand why Al Weaver's character was one step away from a harassment lawsuit.

Can't wait for the next one. It is just cruel that there are only 3 episodes.
post #105 of 332
The last episode of Sherlock made my mom curse out loud. Pretty funny. And having watched Moriarty now a 2nd time, I think I actually quite like the performance there.

And I could go for a series of just Mycroft manipulating world powers.
post #106 of 332
After the last episode, I really hope it becomes a regular series. Its kinda weird watching an episode of House right after it ..
post #107 of 332
Yep. The Great Game ending almost killed me. At least I can take comfort that there will be 3 more, eventually.
post #108 of 332
Does anyone else think that BBC films could try to give these things a limited theatrical release before TV? the feature length episodes seem to lend themselves to it, the talent is clearly there and they're going for some big stories in the new season.
post #109 of 332
Watched the third installment tonight. I actually loved the way Moriarty was presented, but I could have done without his last-minute change of heart and the seemingly tacked-on cliffhanger. Still, awesome show.
post #110 of 332
I thought it was a nice version of the fight on the cliff. Obviously they are compressing a lot of Holmes lore.
post #111 of 332
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I thought it was a nice version of the fight on the cliff. Obviously they are compressing a lot of Holmes lore.
From what I've heard they're doing Reichenbach Falls next season, although I must admit I did think that is what they were doing with the swimming pool.
post #112 of 332
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Although I must admit I did think that is what they were doing with the swimming pool.
there's cheaping out and there's bbc cheaping out but substituting a public swimming pool for reichenbach falls is a whole new level. Plus there was very little about the exchange which reminded me of the final problem, if it is a set-up reference for when reichenbach rolls around, then fair enough.
post #113 of 332
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT! I can wait a year for Walking Dead (which I loved) to return. But not Sherlock. Get season two going, people!
post #114 of 332
Hahahaha. Nice to see you liked it Jamie. How was that for an ending?
post #115 of 332
That is a cliffhanger, my friend!
post #116 of 332

I can't wait for this to come back around again. Such a great show.

post #117 of 332

Just finished the three episodes on Netflix Instant.  Can't wait for more.  In full agreement of the idea to show these theatrically.  Would be way more satisfying then most of the movies in theaters these days, at any rate.

post #118 of 332

Yeah saw it in Netflix as well. Fucking great stuff. Gotta love British tv. Hour and a half episodes=awesome.

post #119 of 332

Had guests over Friday night, and it was suggested to me most forcibly that I was an idiot for letting this fly under my radar. Turns out they were right, at least regarding the first episode. This was a blast.

post #120 of 332
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Yep. The Great Game ending almost killed me. At least I can take comfort that there will be 3 more, eventually.


Late to the party on this, but it was only 3 eps this season because they had to re-tool/re-shoot the pilot. There were meant to be 6 eps in all but the budget/schedule got eaten up. So I'd guess 6 eps for next season.

 

 

post #121 of 332

Not technically true. They never commissioned or intended a "full" series of any specific amount of episodes. They re-shot the pilot which lead to the 3 episode order. Season 2 will also be 3 episodes.

 

1 "A Scandal in Belgravia" Steven Moffat 

2 "The Hounds of Baskerville" Mark Gatiss

3 "The Reichenbach Fall" Stephen Thompson

post #122 of 332

I mentioned this on a fellow Chewer's FB page, but when the inevitable Sandman movie or television series is made, Benedict Cumberbatch needs to play Dream.

post #123 of 332

Spoilers:

 

 

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First pics of Irene Adler.

 

post #124 of 332

This was recommended to me by someone over the Summer.  Eps 1 and 3 were fantastic.  2 was good but not up to the other two episodes.  Can't wait for the new season.

post #125 of 332
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Not technically true. They never commissioned or intended a "full" series of any specific amount of episodes. They re-shot the pilot which lead to the 3 episode order. Season 2 will also be 3 episodes.

 

1 "A Scandal in Belgravia" Steven Moffat 

2 "The Hounds of Baskerville" Mark Gatiss

3 "The Reichenbach Fall" Stephen Thompson



Uh oh. While I loved A Study in Pink and The Great Game, The Blind Banker was a weak link that only gets a pass for being sandwiched between two bits of greatness. Letting Thompson write the finale makes me worried.

 

 

post #126 of 332

I REALLY didn't like The Blind Banker.  The only one I haven't bothered rewatching.

post #127 of 332

Yeah, disappointing that Stephen Thompson will hen writing an ep, and the finale at that. Hopefully he's picked up a trick or two from Moffat and Gatiss on how to write a good hour of Sherlock.

post #128 of 332
post #129 of 332
No word on the new episode last night?
post #130 of 332
I liked it. An intriguing plot, a hot naked dominatrix, the royal family, Jumbo Jets and the Holmes / Watson chemistry is still there and has yet to become tiresome. Typically inventive camera work, especially "Holmes-vision" complete with wacky subtitles when he evaluates someone. I didn't guess the twists either. Neither did Holmes either, at least not as quickly as he usually does. That was refreshing.

My only minor gripe is a far-fetched twist near the end and the actor who plays Moriarty. So far he has seemed more like a screaming queen than a threatening bad guy. He was only in it for a couple of minutes but he's the big bad.
post #131 of 332

Great eppisode and loved the little nods to James Bond that they added in.

 

 

post #132 of 332

Hated the 'Text Message flying through the air by the power of raspberries' gag, enjoyed most of everything else.

post #133 of 332

Agreed, that was prehaps the low point.  I did love the bit where he couldn't read Irene so tried reading something else just to see if he still could. 

post #134 of 332

I really liked the raspberries!  

Anyway, that was fantastic.  I was a bit lost during the middle, but I suppose that was the point.

post #135 of 332

This was my favorite episode of the entire series yet!  I'm totally thrilled, blown away.  Tour de force.  An excellent way to wash out the shitty after taste of Game Of Shadows.

 

I loved the first scene settled.  A funny gag showing that Moriarty uses cheesy 70's music as his ring tone set the mood perfectly, and it only got better from there.  The fun montage of John and Holmes at work, the brilliant scenes when Holmes is first sussing out Addler, the safe etc.  Every little beat or moment when Holmes looks at somebody and text pops up allowing us to easily and quickly follow his thought process and observations is and continues to be brilliant.  I was so fully invested in Holmes sadness that by the end when I heard that sexy sigh text message sound I jumped up and clapped.

 

Loved it loved it loved it!

post #136 of 332

The way the episode made Irene Adler feel so vital to the story and Sherlock as a character...

 

I feel really sorry for Rachel McAdams.  Obviously, there's nothing to feel sorry for her about... but STILL!  I can't recall a thing about her part in the first RDJ Holmes movie.  I haven't even seen the second one, but I don't think I'm out of line in saying that they seem like jokes compared to this series.

 

I still want this show to be shown in theaters.  Fully satisfying as feature films.

post #137 of 332

The first RDJ Sherlock flick gets shit on for some stupid reason, I really liked it, loved it even.  It was the gate way drug that got me interested enough to check out the BBC series in the first place.  I feel sorry for McAdams too, but her performance in that movie really isn't that bad or unbearable, it's just that the Holmes Watson chemistry in that movie DOES work, so when you get to a relationship between two people that doesn't work as well it seems that much more blatant.

post #138 of 332
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My only minor gripe is a far-fetched twist near the end and the actor who plays Moriarty. So far he has seemed more like a screaming queen than a threatening bad guy. He was only in it for a couple of minutes but he's the big bad.


I loved this episode.  It was probably the best of the series so far and as about as good as TV or Sherlock Holmes entertainment gets.  Which is why I found that last twist unforgivably stupid.  

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He managed to sneak away to Karachi without Watson or Hudson noticing?  A tall, pale white Englishman was able to instantly mix in with this extremist group?  And he keeps his fucking phone switched on through the whole thing?  Why couldn't we just have ended on a sad note that would have given Holmes a tragic dimension?

 

 

 

After so much intelligent writing, this was moronic beyond belief.  

 

Agreed also about the depiction of Moriarty.  Not the actor's fault, as he's clearly doing what the writer/producers want.  I get that they want to depict Holmes and Moriarty as two different kinds of ultimate nerds: men who have endless resources of knowledge and reasoning power, but their social graces are terribly flawed.  But making your main scary villain a shrieking prissy infant is not the way to do this.

post #139 of 332

 Yes that ending was a bit disappointing. Also as much as I liked the episode there seemed to be a bit more excessive cheesy melodrama. Still head and shoulders above most things on tv though.

post #140 of 332

You guys are NUTS!  That ending was powerful!  Gigantic!  Adjectives!

post #141 of 332

It's the sort of last minute nonsense I can accept from Moffat when he's working with the fanciful universe of Doctor Who and The Doctor's incredible uses of his space/time machine.  But not something that Sherlock Holmes is capable of doing.

 

Whatever.  I was disappointed there, but I could write a whole book about everything that was great about this episode.  Writing, directing, acting, everything was first rate.  And Moffat even got me to laugh about last season's cliffhanger, which I hated even more than this ending.

 

And also, Lara Pulver...

 

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I mean... goddamn!  She's got a seriously sexy Eva Green thing going on.


Edited by Doc Phibes - 1/3/12 at 12:39am
post #142 of 332

Mixed with a young Courtney Cox!

post #143 of 332

American through the window, my vote for most satisfying gag.

post #144 of 332

First of all, those complaining about the ending are mad. Of course Sherlock could pull it off. When he's not being confused by overt displays of sexuality he's playing a whole different game than everyone else around him. And Irene living is definitely the correct choice. In the coming conflict between Holmes and Moriarty, a third person with ties to both of them and of uncertain allegiances, an intellectual equal in many ways, is going to be a great addition if the show chooses to go that way. Which I hope it will. Because you shouldn't think that the Karachi events mean she's in Holmes' camp for good.

 

Damn, it feels good to have this back. So, so good.

post #145 of 332

I just feel uncomfortable about the way that ending happened.

 

SPOILER

I don't disagree at all that Adler should live but there was no need for last minute Karachi beheading savings.

 

Having said that it's not a big complaint when you look at this gem of an episode. Seriously that Rachel McAdams casting for Irene Adler looks beyond hilarious when you look at this depiction.


Edited by tenterhooks - 1/3/12 at 3:29am
post #146 of 332

The Daily Fail chiming in trying to stir up some "WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" controversy over the "nude" scenes.

 

And Moffat's response on Twitter.

 

 

post #147 of 332
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First of all, those complaining about the ending are mad. Of course Sherlock could pull it off. When he's not being confused by overt displays of sexuality he's playing a whole different game than everyone else around him.



 

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You mean the "Keep Your Orgasming Phone Switched On While Undercover With Muslim Extremist Terrorists" game?  You're not convincing me, Stelios.  After 88 minutes of careful plotting that revolved around high-minded strategic thinking, Moffat went for a brainless triumphant moment for everyone who wanted to pump their fists and cheer... instead of think.

 

post #148 of 332

The texting sound was just a cute reveal.

 

 

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And I don't know why the ending Moffat wrote is antithetical to thinking. You mean that a man of Holmes' abilities, having received many texts providing almost a play by play of her activities and with months available wouldn't be able to do this? The same man who deciphered the email in seconds and acted like a human polygraph? The same man who easily overpowers trained CIA field agents? Have we been watching the same show?

 

 

Sherlock Holmes since his inception has been a superhero in all but name. Just because some people fall in the "It's depressing therefore it's meaningful" trap, doesn't mean the show should feel that way too.

post #149 of 332

You might want to switch to spoiler text about the ending, as this episode doesn't air in the States until May.

post #150 of 332

I don't understand the nit picking of Holmes and his occasional mistakes.  If you'll recall he blindly foolishly makes a MASSIVE mistake near the climax of this episode simply to show off.  He has no other motivation for doing that.  As brilliant as he is, he's commonly brought down a level or two in this show and displayed as a flawed human.  He's borderline Abed from Community.

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