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post #1 of 81
7/25/10 at 12:50am
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The Mighty Avengers are together at last.

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post #2 of 81
7/25/10 at 12:54am
Sausage-fest!
Renner as Hawkeye is genius casting, though.
And I like how they included little Agent Caulson in the photo op.
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post #3 of 81
7/25/10 at 12:54am
Holy crap, what an awesome picture. I'm geting excited now...
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post #4 of 81
7/25/10 at 12:54am
Ruffalo!

It really is hard not to get geek goosebumps about this.
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post #5 of 81
7/25/10 at 12:56am
Fuck yes... Damn. Just think, all of these heroes on screen TOGETHER!
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post #6 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:01am
There is too much fucking win contained in this picture.

Marvel just bitch-slapped DC/WB.
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post #7 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:05am
lol Downey's first line before announcing the Avengers

"Nobody stab anyone until I'm finished with this."
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post #8 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:07am
Wow, so awesome.

I can't wait to have an epic Marvel movie marathon leading up to The Avengers.
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post #9 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:08am
I'm so glad Downey Jr. vouched for Ruffalo the way he did - throwing in a "Hell yeah" as Mark came out on stage.

I swear fans can be such selfish ingrates. They don't know a good thing when they see it. Ruffalo > Norton.
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post #10 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:10am
Ruffalo should do just fine as Banner.
The nerd rage over the recasting of this role is retarded.
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post #11 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:13am
I really don't get where the love for Norton is coming from. He was serviceable in TIH at best. But the whole time I watched that film, I got the distinct impression that Norton didn't give a shit. He just seemed so monotonous and bored in the role.
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post #12 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:13am
Surprised that Scar Jo's Widow is in the lineup. Isn't Widow just one of Fury's flunkies in Iron Man 2?
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post #13 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:18am
I'd say she can kick more ass than Clark Gregg's Coulson can.

She was undercover to watch over Stark, so I'd say she wasn't just a flunkie.
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post #14 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:19am
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Surprised that Scar Jo's Widow is in the lineup. Isn't Widow just one of Fury's flunkies in Iron Man 2?
C'mon it's Scarlett Johansson. How can she not be there?

And no love for Bana? I liked him better than Norton.
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post #15 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:19am
Ruffalo and Renner are right down Whedon Street. One's sensitive and uncomfortable in his own skin, the other a laconic badass. Whedon will have fun playing with and against type for both.

Now the real question: who does he unceremoniously kill in the third act?
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post #16 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:21am
I wish I could get in on the enthusiasm for this. I'm 'that guy' who really just doesn't care about all these people being in the same movie, but I wish I did. Weirdness. Hope it's fun, though.
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post #17 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:34am
This is quite cool. Ruffalo is such a great choice!
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post #18 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:35am
Agent Coulson's going to tie into something big eventually, and I'm guessing it's betrayal.
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post #19 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:36am
Naw, now we just need to get Martin Sheen to cameo as the President.
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post #20 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:37am
I have two words and a question mark: Don Cheadle?

Wasn't he supposed to be part of the team?

And I truly hope we get a satisfying villain and not just betrayal. Never read any Avengers comics, are there any big ones like Galactus? I doubt we'll get an equal villain team consisting of Tim Roth, Sam Shepard, Tim Blake Nelson, Hugo Weaving and Tom Hiddleston.
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post #21 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:37am
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There is too much fucking win contained in this picture.

Marvel just bitch-slapped DC/WB.
Whoa boy, yes it's an impressive group, but Whedon has to pull one hell of a balancing act. The fist is there, but it isn't a threat... ...yet.
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post #22 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:44am
Great news. I watched Joss stuff along JJ and he seemed really excited about this gig.
Thor looks huge. Echo, Renner is perfect for the role, same as Ruffalo.
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post #23 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:45am
Wait, a stabbing?

I'm surprised there aren't more members, just because I was expecting them to try and work in another female team member there. But that's probably the right amount of characters.
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post #24 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:50am
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I'm so glad Downey Jr. vouched for Ruffalo the way he did - throwing in a "Hell yeah" as Mark came out on stage.
I didn't know that. Classy. (unlike Feige)
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post #25 of 81
7/25/10 at 1:54am
http://www.usatoday.com/life/2010-07...stabbing_N.htm
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post #26 of 81
7/25/10 at 2:20am
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And no love for Bana? I liked him better than Norton.
Me too. Actually A LOT better than Norton. The CHUD love for the Ang Lee film seems to ebb and flow every year or so.

Ruffalo is a more interesting actor than either of them at this point, though I still hold out hope for Bana in the future.
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post #27 of 81
7/25/10 at 2:27am
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Originally Posted by Feral Akodon View Post
I didn't know that. Classy. (unlike Feige)
"I endorse this following message, and I demand a most warm welcome, for reprising the role of Bruce Banner - Mark Ruffalo."

And lo and behold, he is met with applause.

It's hilarious. Fans are willing to boo Feige directly to his face, but as soon as RDJ tells them to cheer, they cheer. God people are fickle.
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post #28 of 81
7/25/10 at 3:24am
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Originally Posted by wadew1 View Post
Ruffalo should do just fine as Banner.
The nerd rage over the recasting of this role is retarded.
More like nerd rejoicing...from my pov anyway.
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post #29 of 81
7/25/10 at 3:35am
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Originally Posted by wadew1 View Post
Ruffalo should do just fine as Banner.
The nerd rage over the recasting of this role is retarded.
Ruffalo is a great choice for Banner, but I liked Norton just as much. It was just that they recast the role at all, apparently for no reason and in a really dickish way, that left a bad taste in people's mouths. It's also three Banners in three movies, which indicates they don't have a firm grasp on any real vision for the character. Plus, Cheadle for Howard seemed like no big deal, but it felt off in a tangible way.

Marvel deserved a bit of a fan slap for their handling of it.
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post #30 of 81
7/25/10 at 3:47am
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It's hilarious. Fans are willing to boo Feige directly to his face, but as soon as RDJ tells them to cheer, they cheer. God people are fickle.
Was Feige really booed? Damn that's rough
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post #31 of 81
7/25/10 at 3:52am
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post
Ruffalo is a great choice for Banner, but I liked Norton just as much. It was just that they recast the role at all, apparently for no reason and in a really dickish way, that left a bad taste in people's mouths. It's also three Banners in three movies, which indicates they don't have a firm grasp on any real vision for the character. Plus, Cheadle for Howard seemed like no big deal, but it felt off in a tangible way.

Marvel deserved a bit of a fan slap for their handling of it.
I could've sworn there were tales of Norton being difficult to work with, and that he was the one who initially said he wouldn't do the role again. I also think they were weighing the fact that he's such a strong on-set personality (who apparently rolled right over the Incredible Hulk director), specifically one they didn't want to set against RDjr and Whedon.
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post #32 of 81
7/25/10 at 3:55am
Liked Bana and thought Norton was an interesting choice. I've always been on the Ruffalo train so cool to that.

This is cool and all but its such a huge gamble I hope it works.
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post #33 of 81
7/25/10 at 3:57am
I'm not in the slightest bit thrilled about the casting of Banner. I just rewatched TIH 20 minutes ago and forgot how great Norton was and how enjoyable of a film that was. I'm fairly confident this film will blow huge epic chunks but I'm done talking about it until there is a trailer... I do enjoy the casting of Evans and RDJ
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post #34 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:11am
People always seem to bitch about multiple villains and how they fuck up movies. What about multiple heroes?
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post #35 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:13am
I can't wait for this. Honestly, I can't fathom the backlash against Ruffalo I'm seeing elsewhere in my life and on the internet. I thought they would agreed that the guy has chops because they're so obviously amazing to me. It doesn't matter though--geeks, no matter the level of huffy, will see it along with everyone else.

The thing that worries me is Zak Penn. The movies he has written reads like a list of my least favorite superhero flicks. I did like PCU, Last Action Hero, and the Grand. So it's not enough to dampen my spirt.
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post #36 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:14am
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I could've sworn there were tales of Norton being difficult to work with, and that he was the one who initially said he wouldn't do the role again. I also think they were weighing the fact that he's such a strong on-set personality (who apparently rolled right over the Incredible Hulk director), specifically one they didn't want to set against RDjr and Whedon.
He didn't roll over Lettier. He tried rolling over Fiege. Him and Lettier fought with Marvel over the "vision" of the film.
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post #37 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:23am
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The thing that worries me is Zak Penn. The movies he has written reads like a list of my least favorite superhero flicks. I did like PCU, Last Action Hero, and the Grand. So it's not enough to dampen my spirt.
Zak Penn? I think he's basically done working on this movie. There's no way Whedon isn't rewriting the script.

And Norton was fine in TIH, but his performance wasn't impressive enough for me to be upset about this move. And like I've said before, if they spend a lot of time with Bruce Banner in this movie I'll be disappointed. He should have a minor role.
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post #38 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:25am
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He didn't roll over Lettier. He tried rolling over Fiege. Him and Lettier fought with Marvel over the "vision" of the film.
I suppose either way there appears to be a reason for Norton to not be involved, and I'm kind of surprised so many other people were surprised he was dumped from future Marvel productions. Wasn't the battle, whatever the outcome, a pretty public issue? I thought we were all pretty sure he wasn't going to be involved in the Avengers before Incredible Hulk was even released. I guess I was just making assumptions.
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post #39 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:31am
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Zak Penn? I think he's basically done working on this movie. There's no way Whedon isn't rewriting the script.
This is great to hear. I wasn't sure how much involvement he had, I figured since they were giving him credit he still had some say.

What I also don't get is raging on the principle of being against recasts. Sure if you love Norton like the fire of a thousand suns, I can understand...but isn't Norton a recast? Seems myopic. Why aren't people clamoring for Eric Bana (which I wouldn't mind so much actually, though Ruffalo is the best choice for every role ever, including Galactus and Mary Jane).
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post #40 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:36am
The first Hulk movie wasn't under the banner of Marvel/Paramount though.
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post #41 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:45am
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The first Hulk movie wasn't under the banner of Marvel/Paramount though.
Ah, forgive my ignorance. It is I who is myopic. Still, Ruffalo 4 Lyfe.

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post #42 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:57am
My reservations about the recast, minor though they are, have pretty much nothing to do with Norton over Ruffalo or Bana. In fact, I put all three at about the same echelon, for what they bring to a role. Furthermore, I don't really care about the Hulk, and I care even less about Banner.

It's about continuity, which was one of the big cool ideas about this whole Avengers experiment from the beginning. If they got the entire original setup back together, and it seems like they were one Norton away from pulling it off, that would have been unprecedented. It also suggests, along with the T Howard and Favreau debacles over Iron Man 2, that Marvel is super willing to throw away talent if it gets too mouthy, which isn't the greatest situation for creativity to bloom in.
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post #43 of 81
7/25/10 at 4:59am
Gonna be real here and say that I'll actually laugh if this ends up tanking. Sure it'll be nice if it doesn't but I can see this thing basically being Iron Man 3 and that being about it real easily.
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post #44 of 81
7/25/10 at 5:11am
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post
My reservations about the recast, minor though they are, have pretty much nothing to do with Norton over Ruffalo or Bana. In fact, I put all three at about the same echelon, for what they bring to a role. Furthermore, I don't really care about the Hulk, and I care even less about Banner.

It's about continuity, which was one of the big cool ideas about this whole Avengers experiment from the beginning. If they got the entire original setup back together, and it seems like they were one Norton away from pulling it off, that would have been unprecedented. It also suggests, along with the T Howard and Favreau debacles over Iron Man 2, that Marvel is super willing to throw away talent if it gets too mouthy, which isn't the greatest situation for creativity to bloom in.
I totally get what you're saying, I was just replying to your 'apparently no reason at all' comments and trying to be helpful. I really didn't think many people were expecting Norton to come back.

That said I still didn't really care for Norton too much in the role, but it wouldn't really have bothered me too much any way it went since, as wadew1 said, it should be a pretty minor role overall.
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post #45 of 81
7/25/10 at 5:12am
Anyone who isn't excited with Ruffalo as Banner needs to have his brain checked. Norton is great but it's not he was replaced with some MTV reality show guy. As someone much more qualified than me once said, there can never be too much Ruffalo.
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post #46 of 81
7/25/10 at 5:17am
Zak Penn is confirmed as pretty much being irrelevant. Whedon isn't rewriting that script, he's currently outlining his own script.
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post #47 of 81
7/25/10 at 5:32am
What a great cast. I hope Wheddon pulls it off. It seems like an almost impossible task.
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post #48 of 81
7/25/10 at 5:41am
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Gonna be real here and say that I'll actually laugh if this ends up tanking. Sure it'll be nice if it doesn't but I can see this thing basically being Iron Man 3 and that being about it real easily.
As has been mentioned dozens of times juggling all these actors is a huge task. Whedon is in for a major headache. Its unprecedented to have this many heroes on screen and then this level of acting talent.

Still with that cast on the stage nobody casts a shadow on Downey Jr and the entire problem with that is that Stark isn't front and center in the Avengers. Its usually Nick Fury and Cap. I have a hard time seeing Evans and Jackson doing that.

Nonetheless I wish the best for the production and Whedon (No i'm not a Buffy or Firefly guy) I don't think it bolds well for studio product or Marvel if this tanks.
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post #49 of 81
7/25/10 at 5:56am
The beauty of this whole project is that seven out eight of those characters will arrive fully formed. The only character who will need any kind of introduction is Hawkeye.

I don't think there's much anyone can do about Downey Jnr about out charming everyone but to be honest that's what Stark did in the comics anyway.

I am so freaking pumped for this.

Also for the record, I'm a stickler for continuity as well, but Ruffalo will be a better "Bixby" Banner than Norton was.
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post #50 of 81
7/25/10 at 5:56am
In the last year or so I've felt pretty sick of superheroes ing general and thought Marvel in particular were trying to convert their existing IP into more dosh (as opposed to telling interesting stories).

However the batshit insanity of having 5 films (2 IM, Hulk, Thor and Cap) lead into a massive crossover film is starting to get me excited. I do hope it turns out well. IM2 and Incredible Hulk both underwhelmed. If Cap and Thor are good, then this could be some crazy piece of film making.
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