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post #101 of 1230
But there's not NUMERICAL SCOOORE!!! How would i know if it's Really goooood?

The excitement I've got over this movie is bordering stupidity.
post #102 of 1230
There's supposed to be a numerical score.
post #103 of 1230
In some ways, I feel like the best film to compare Pilgrim to is FIGHT CLUB.
post #104 of 1230
I've used that analogy too. Especially a year or two from release.
post #105 of 1230
This line perfectly nails why the Cera haters are wrong:

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...in the past Cera has played smart kids who overthink, who have too much on their minds. Scott has very, very little on his...
post #106 of 1230
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Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata View Post
I've used that analogy too. Especially a year or two from release.
Yeah, from the generation gap, to the fact that I think a lot of people are going to treat this movie like their most prized possession.
post #107 of 1230
It's a great review. I hope they release it worldwide soon.
post #108 of 1230
My review is live over at DVDTalk as well: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/45197...-vs-the-world/

Still hoping for a miracle win at the box office, but the guy who sat behind me tonight loudly proclaiming "fucking stupid!" after every scene did not generate much hope.
post #109 of 1230
Oh man, even better the second time. And my theater was packed with people who loved it. Rarely is a regular audience better than an advanced screening audience, but this one most definitely was. They laughed at every single joke (I love that I live in a town where 350 people will cheer and scream because Tom Jane shows up on screen), so much that there was a ton of dialogue I missed this time. I can't imagine a single person walked out of that screening not buzzing and ready to tell the world about the movie.

But they showed the movie on another screen and a friend that was in that theater said it was practically empty, so who knows?
post #110 of 1230
"That Uma Thurman movie?"

Every problem I have with this movie is on the script level, and could probably never be satisfactorily solved in a regular-length feature. Either way, I have to see it again just to watch it without comparing it to the book and see it as it's own story. But it did feel like, once it got to the Clash at the Demonhead concert, it kind of went too fast. How long do Ramona and Scott date in this movie, from start to finish? 2 weeks? You don't feel the growth of their characters in the way that was such a big part of the books.

But every second of the movie is pure joy, and truly unique in such a profound way, cinematically. The first hour is absolutely 100% perfect in every imaginable way.
post #111 of 1230
just got home from the midnight show a little while ago and I'm sure I'm echoing thousands of others....but...YAY. Pure fucking excellence.

The drive home with my friends (since I had to drive about 45 min to get to a midnight show) was full of nonstop "dude and that part...!"

So choice.
post #112 of 1230
Overall, it was excellent. Great cast, great directing. My biggest problem with the movie was that the Scott Ramona relationship chunk of the plot was almost completely deleted. So much so that I think Scott really didn't have a motive to keep fighting the League and I don't know how Ramona could ever want to be with a loser like Scott. I'm fine with things being cut out, but I feel like that was such a crucial part of the plot. At the very least, what made me really love the series.
post #113 of 1230
I couldn't possibly be objective about this movie, even if I wanted to: I high-fived Edgar Wright while he made slow-motion noises before the trailers rolled.

So I'll post my thoughts later after I'm down from my buzz. But holy shit I can't believe Edgar Wright made the video game adaptation of ANNIE HALL.
post #114 of 1230
This film makes (500) Days of Summer totally unnecessary. I'll post more thoughts later when I have my head cleared.
post #115 of 1230
I'm pretty keen to see it again. I hope to enjoy it more now I know what it is and how it's paced.
post #116 of 1230
Note: I only just realised the last book has been released!
post #117 of 1230
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Also, the best exit of a duo making a cameo ever. "YEAH~!" *high-five*
I'm really surprised at how much of a reaction that got from my audience. I'm even more surprised at how much recognition noise there was for The Jane.

Can't add anything new to what's been said already, so I'll just say that no one can take a genre and turn it into something else completely like Wright.
post #118 of 1230
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Originally Posted by Erik Wacker View Post
But they showed the movie on another screen and a friend that was in that theater said it was practically empty, so who knows?
This doesn't necessarily mean anything. If your theater has more than one print or is digital and opened a second midnight auditorium after the first one filled, it'd make sense for the other one to be empty.
post #119 of 1230
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Originally Posted by Devin's review
There's a core emotional story about love and growing up, there's the hyperspeed stylistic tics, there's a bunch of fun video game references, there's a bunch of movie references, and you can engage the film on any of those levels and be satisfied.
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Originally Posted by Devin's review
a movie that grows with rewatches, as Wright has stuffed every moment of the film with something - a detail, a joke, a small character beat. On first viewing it's possible to feel overwhelmed by just how much is going on, how many jokes are in there, how much action is in there, and by the relentless pace. But the film is digestible, even on a first viewing, and on future viewings it really blossoms.
These review samples could have come from any of Edgar Wright's flicks. Glad to know it's on par with the rest of his stellar resume and that Wright nurtures his unique handle on film-making..
post #120 of 1230
Masterfully made, on a technical level it looks completely daunting, but all without being overbearing or Wright ever looking showy. There were times where I wondered just how the fuck he kept all of this together. I was impressed. It's often very funny, pitch-perfect with the jokes really, with mostly brilliant pacing, and actors who sell it all effortlessly.

That being said, I was all but completely unmoved by the central relationship, never once committing to it on any level beyond where it would take the next scene. From start to finish that never threatened to change.

This is another win for Wright, his most accomplished film (and stunningly so), but as a whole experience, it's nestled in between Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz.
post #121 of 1230
I think a point worth making is that the real relationship takes place after the movie. During the movie, both people are running.
post #122 of 1230
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I think a point worth making is that the real relationship takes place after the movie. During the movie, both people are running.
That doesn't work for me. Embryonic or not, I didn't care what happened between Scott and Ramona. Ever.
post #123 of 1230
I love that "stodgy" old NPR is championing this movie.

NPR schools the hipster-haters

Saw it last night at a midnight screening, and have little to add to the love other than what's already been said. There was a lot of clapping and laughter, and I came out feeling incredibly jazzed. Can't wait to see it again.
post #124 of 1230
Glenn Kenny's review is right there with the NPR one, chastising the older film critics for not even trying to engage the film:

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/s...the-world.html

In the course of the review, he goes on to compare it to Resnais and Powell/Pressburger.
post #125 of 1230
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Originally Posted by Andrew Woods View Post
This film makes (500) Days of Summer totally unnecessary.
To be fair, it was already totally unnecessary.
post #126 of 1230
From the NPR review in Jeff M's link:

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"There's no reason to be angry at the people you imagine a movie will make happy just because you didn't like the movie."
I think that deserves repeating.
post #127 of 1230
We're in way too deep on the Main Page for this to get its own thing, but another excellent video from the Soundworks crew:

http://soundworkscollection.com/scottpilgrim
post #128 of 1230
It was very good, but I liked it least compared to Shaun and Hot Fuzz. I left those two movies completely charged, and I left this much the same way I left the comics: it was a fun ride, but nothing is sticking to me.

For me the best parts of the books are when they're not kicking and punching each other, but watching this I think Wright disagrees. The movie runs so fast it tramples over basically any quiet moments. I agree that its not clear at all why Scott wants to date Ramona. From his character as presented it would be more likely he'd turn tail and run as soon as the Seven Evil Exes became a factor.

Cera completely proved me wrong, though. The editing surely helps him but he gets there. And missed opportunity by not having Knives say at the end, "You've been chasing her this whole movie!" I missed some of the winking referential we-know-we're-in-a-comic stuff and I thought for sure they would translate that.
post #129 of 1230
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Originally Posted by Tyler Foster View Post
I think a point worth making is that the real relationship takes place after the movie. During the movie, both people are running.
This is a good point, and probably the biggest change from the book to the movie. In the book they have a real relationship over the course of a long(er) period of time, in this they keep trying to have a relationship, but they keep having false starts and it never really works out until they decided to continue at the end.

Also, as far the exes go, Scott doesn't REALLY want to fight any of them, at least for the right reasons. The first two were more self-defense and to impress his girl, the third one he starts to impress Envy, the fourth one he doesn't want too fight but Ramona makes him, the fifth & sixth his band defeated, and the first time he fights Gideon mostly because he's just pissed at him. It's not until that final battle he starts doing it for the right reasons.
post #130 of 1230
I heart this movie.
post #131 of 1230
That was... wow. Just... wow. It's everything I could have hoped for and more. I mean, what else can I do but parrot nearly everyone else? This may be my Movie of the Year, folks.

Also, when was the Flash Gordon cue? I think I missed that.
post #132 of 1230
Amazing. I don't really have much to add except that everything from the costumes, to the music, to Bill Pope, clicked. And yeah, I cheered when Kim Pine screams "We came to watch Scott Pilgrim kick your teeth in!" and I'm fine with that.

Also, best cameo ever.
post #133 of 1230
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Originally Posted by Chris Spider View Post
That was... wow. Just... wow. It's everything I could have hoped for and more. I mean, what else can I do but parrot nearly everyone else? This may be my Movie of the Year, folks.

Also, when was the Flash Gordon cue? I think I missed that.
When Gideon kisses Ramona's ring, the sound cue is from Flash Gordon, when the hand comes in and picks up Ming's ring at the end.
post #134 of 1230
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When Gideon kisses Ramona's ring, the sound cue is from Flash Gordon, when the hand comes in and picks up Ming's ring at the end.
Ah. I thought it might've been the "FLASH! AAHHHH!" thing and I just missed it.
post #135 of 1230
Movie was fun and enjoyable, but hardly the best of the year imo.

The artistic style and execution is to be praised no doubt. It's absolutely amazing. The cool references to other mediums and video games is great. And it hits that inner geek inside me to finally see a video game stylings in real life, just as I would make believe them as a young kid playing on the playground. But after wiping away the flash, boom and pop, there just isn't any depth for my core to latch on too. All said, 7/10.
post #136 of 1230
Just got back from the first showing at a nearby theater. I figured I'd be the only one in there, but it wasn't totally empty and the audience really dug it.

Without having read any of the thread:

Wright is a genius. Cera is a dorky badass. Knives is too good for everyone. Loved this movie.

EDIT: Just read the thread so far. Fight Club is EXACTLY the movie I thought of while watching this. Of course, I also thought about Speed Racer (who would've thought that Wright would manage to edit his film in an even more insane way than the Wachowskis did in that movie!?) and Trainspotting.. In terms of the thrill of that first viewing anyway. I can totally see it sharing Fincher's film's long-term fate. Devin is absolutely right to praise the film's editing. It was a breathless combination of the style Wright had already developed with Spaced and his previous two films, HULK, Speed Racer, and every piece of anime ever made.

The film was EXACTLY what I'd hoped for after I started reading the comics after learning it was Wright's next project. In this case, I'm not on board with the complaints about the underdeveloped relationship between Scott and Ramona. It may be because I'm filling it in with my memories of the comics, but I felt it worked. Maybe not enough though... because I really wanted Scott to choose Knives by the end. But as she said... she's way too cool for him.

I actually complained about some of Wright's hyper-edited Tony Scott-style action sequences in Hot Fuzz. But I chalked it up to lack of budget and the fact that many of those in the action sequences were old people. Scott Pilgrim proves me right. His collaboration with Brad Allen is one I hope he continues in some way.

I'm so happy to be eating crow about my initial misgivings about Cera as well. He pulls it off. The only misgivings I have are when Scott suddenly seems super clever in defeating the exes. In the comic, I recall him innocently asking Lucas Lee to show him some skate moves. In the movie, he plays it like he knows full well that it will defeat him. Same deal with the way he defeats Todd with the half&half. But oh well.

I'm definitely gonna go see this again with friends in tow.
post #137 of 1230
Semi-full audience and everyone clapped at the end. That was nice.

I think the movie makes sense if you can divorce yourself from the books (if you've read them). Also, I loved it.
post #138 of 1230
I couldn't stop smiling through the entirety of the film. Just one giant grin for two hours. My favorite bits probably were the Seinfeld cue and the shoelace gag, which tickled me more than I can say for some reason. I also totally fell in love with Ellen Wong. The only real complaint I can muster right now is that the movie was about five hours too short. I just wanted to hang out in that world forever.
post #139 of 1230
I loved that Seinfeld sequence, but it COMPLETELY caught me off-guard. I wasn't expecting an extended reference like that at all!
post #140 of 1230
What an absolutely fun ride. It is hard to divorce the movie away from the books but I think Wright did a phenomenal job of taking a much longer story and condensing it for a film. The movie is just such a visual feat I can't wait to see it again.
post #141 of 1230
Just found out that Bill Hader contributed to this movie as... THE VOICE. Awesome.
post #142 of 1230
I don't think I heard anything during the Seinfeld sequence, I was laughing too hard.

Also, I may have misheard it, but I think the first time Scott enters Scott's club, Comeau (guy who knows everybody) says "Their first album wasn't as good as their first album." So fucking good.
post #143 of 1230
HA! I thought I'd misheard that! Also, it's Gideon's club. But I know that was just a typo on your part. Also thanks for that link to Elvis Mitchell's interview with Wright earlier in the thread. I'm really loving Mitchell's interviews.

EDIT: Young Neil exclaiming, "You punched the highlights out of her HAAAAAIR!!!" two times really reminded me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egwD4jTo3GE

... which made me crack up pretty hard.

EDIT2: This movie would give me diabetes... if diabetes were caused by an overabundance of cute girls.
post #144 of 1230
I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. That's all I got.

I also just watched the Scott Pilgrim vs. the Animation short, the adult swim folks would really stupid to not considering greenlighting a series.
post #145 of 1230
Wow, that was something. The audience probably cracked up the most during the shoelace gag, but they were really into the film all the way through, which was nice. Yeah, I'm repeating, but the visual style is simply astounding in every way possible, with the editing and cinematography and the direction combining into a unstoppable force of awesomeness. I loved him to pieces in Youth in Revolt, but this movie seals my contract for the Michael Cera fanclub. Fight scenes were really fucking good, it seemed like Cera was actually doing most of it himself, which is impressive. Really impressive choreography. Just an overall win for Mr. Wright. Bravo! PS I missed the Stills reveal (you know if you've read Vol. 6), though.
post #146 of 1230
I don't understand the hatred and people dismissing the movie out of hand. It's opening night for an Edgar Wright movie. Every movie fan I know is treating it like Christmas. As well they should.

For me, Santa arrives in four hours at the Alamo Drafthouse.
post #147 of 1230
About the only bit I missed from the comic was Scott hiding in Ramona's bag, which is like the most adorable drawing in the whole story.

The Vegan Police got the biggest laugh from the audience.
post #148 of 1230
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The Vegan Police got the biggest laugh from the audience.
Yeah, that was great surprise.
post #149 of 1230
I wrote down some of my thoughts here: http://tumblr.com/xl4fphuwe

Short version: I loved the movie entirely. Loved everything about it. Wright made an amazing goddamn film.
post #150 of 1230
My sixty something mother desperately wanted to see this and my sister had little to no desire to see it. The mom fell asleep during the vegan battle and the sister flipping looooved it.

Definitely a generational kind of film and one I gladly ate with a spoon.
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