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post #101 of 126
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Originally Posted by dontEATnachos View Post
One thing I found genuinely technically interesting was the way they did the Ferrel/Wahlberg drinking scene. Just a unique way that I'd never seen before.
Didn't Watchmen do this in its opening credits?
post #102 of 126
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Didn't Watchmen do this in its opening credits?
WATCHMEN's was similar, but IIRC, OTHER GUYS' POV for this trick is more mobile, weaving in and out of the actors. WATCHMEN was mostly some slow zooming in or panning. I think.

But yes, same basic approach.
post #103 of 126
Not only that, but THE OTHER GUYS also had the same actors appear in multiple places in the same shot right?
post #104 of 126
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Originally Posted by neoolong View Post
Not only that, but THE OTHER GUYS also had the same actors appear in multiple places in the same shot right?
Yep.
post #105 of 126
Yeah, that shot and the action of the third act were impressive on McKay's part.

But i didn't love the movie. I thought it was good, but that's it. Not even close to Anchorman, Tallageda or Step Brothers.

And i love Keaton to death, but he wasn't that great here.
post #106 of 126
I loved it. Much funnier than I remember STEP BROTHERS being, although I saw that 2 years ago on a flight. Not the ideal conditions I admit.

I thought Keaton was pretty funny in this and was underused.

So glad I stayed away from spoilers. I had no idea Jackson and the Rock would buy the farm. Especially like that.

And Steve Coogan proves he should be in more movies.
post #107 of 126
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Yeah, that shot and the action of the third act were impressive on McKay's part.

But i didn't love the movie. I thought it was good, but that's it. Not even close to Anchorman, Tallageda or Step Brothers.

And i love Keaton to death, but he wasn't that great here.
With some time behind my one and only screening, this is where I've landed, but I'd like to give it one more viewing before placing it at the end of the list. (And I'm one of the odd ones who places TALLADEGA before ANCHORMAN.)
post #108 of 126
ANCHORMAN is hilarious up until the Zoo. It's get by thanks to the goodwill generated by the rest of the movie but still, not that great.
post #109 of 126
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ANCHORMAN is hilarious up until the Zoo. It's get by thanks to the goodwill generated by the rest of the movie but still, not that great.
This statement vexes me.
post #110 of 126
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
And i love Keaton to death, but he wasn't that great here.
I was bummed out by how hack his lines were. When he first appears I'm like, "Fuck yeah, it's Michael Keaton!" but before long I'm like, "Why did they give the great man such uninspired things to say?"
post #111 of 126
I think it's the way he says them, not what he says.

Rando, my grammar wasn't that good there. I dunno, the rest of ANCHORMAN is so funny that the Zoo stuff just comes off as mildly amusing.
post #112 of 126
I thought The Other Guys was pretty weak. There were moments, but overall it didn't work and Wahlberg was way out of his depth. Also, I'm a big Coogan fan, but he did nothing for me here either.

Easily Ferrell and McKay's weakest collaboration, though conversely McKay's best from a technical standpoint.
post #113 of 126
Having only seen this once...and having seen the other 3 recently I think I can safely say once again this is a solid #3 behind Anchorman and Step Brothers. TD Nights has only gotten worse with age. And Step Brothers has only gotten better.
post #114 of 126
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Originally Posted by Rando View Post
This statement vexes me.
Seriously. One of the best parts is when the dog negotiates their safety from the bear, that part is flat out brilliant.

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Also, I'm a big Coogan fan, but he did nothing for me here either.

Easily Ferrell and McKay's weakest collaboration, though conversely McKay's best from a technical standpoint.
I'm very surprised you didn't think he was good in it. I thought he was fantastic in the small role, he had quite a few funny moments. The part where he offers Will Ferrel 10 million dollars and insists it's not a bribe is hilarious. I thought this role was far better than the one he had in Tropic Thunder, he had a good opportunity to show his funny. I watched it in the theaters so that may color my perspective. But this is probably my favorite McKay Ferrel collaboration.

I think Ricky Bobby is easily the weakest one. That's just me.
post #115 of 126
I saw it in the cinema too. I guess its just that I've seen Coogan do such incredible work, but he always comes off a little stilted in American comedies, as if he isn't given free reign to do what he's good at.
post #116 of 126
Coogan was decent in OTHER GUYS but yeah, nowhere near as funny as I've seen him be. Some of his Alan Partridge stuff is inspired.

I loved this. A lot more than STEP BROTHERS, but not as much as ANCHORMAN or TALLADEGA. The jump, coupled with the Foo Fighters song, is honestly one of the funniest things McKay's ever done.
post #117 of 126
Coogan is WAY funnier than his OTHER GUYS appearance. He smokes Ricky Gervais in terms of being the UK's best comedy import.
post #118 of 126
It'd be foolish to suggest Coogan isn't funnier in his other material, like his fantastic standup shows, and of course Alan Partridge.

But it's also unfair to expect that level from him in The Other Guys. I never expected the heights of Alan Partridge to somehow make it to the film. What Ben said about him not having free reign was correct, but the movie's a vehicle for Ferrel so this is expected. But for the role he had, I thought he did an awesome job. He just felt wonderfully believable as a sleazy businessman.
post #119 of 126
It had the guy that breaks character and threatens to pulverise Bull Horn. That's all I wanted to add.
post #120 of 126
So, I accidentally watched this movie. Accidentally? How is that possible? A coworker told me he purchased THE OTHER GUYS and I thought he was talking about THE LOSERS, which I'd heard was good. He offered to lend it to me, and only when he brought it in did I realize I misunderstood. I didn't want to hurt his feelings after he'd talked about how good it was, so I took it home and watched it while I did some other stuff. It is the first Farrell movie I've seen since STRANGER THAN FICTION

My thoughts: It is not very good. But... it's not good in surprising ways. I expected Whalberg to be crack me up from moment one, given his HUCKABEES work. Instead, because he was appearing in a Farrell movie perhaps, he felt the need to act manic and out of control from the first frame. He never seemed like a believable person. He was always shouting something crazy or making googly eyes. That isn't funny to me. What's funny is a sincere, slightly dumb guy saying absurd things that seem like they could be something a real person would actually utter. You know, like in Huckabees. Whalberg didn't get that, and ended up being grating and leaden for the whole thing

Farrell.. I expected him to be terrible. I've written about him on the board before, and while I ironically thought he made an OK dramatic actor in STRANGER THAN FICTION, his obnoxious habit of mugging for the camera while he stretches every joke out to the point where any humor has been physically wrung from the scene makes him someone who I cannot stand under any conditions

An example? The tuna thing. Whalberg's delivery of the initial lion hunting set up was too forced and fake to seem funny to me, but when Farrell cleverly turned it around and pointed out that waves off the cape of Africa are 20 feet high and a blue fin tuna can weight 800lbs, ETC, I thought it was great. His character was believably clueless, thinking that he could turn the insult around on Whalberg and really "burn" him by pointing out the illogical nature of his threat... but then Farrell started talking about Kelp oxygen masks. The smile immediately left my face. No one in their right mind would say stuff like that, and so the reality of the joke, that this guy was trying to use logic to invalidate a lion v tuna attack scenario, was lost and it just became about random weirdness.. that went on and on and on till I was gritting my teeth

Weirdly enough though? The moments where he restrained himself and acted slightly more down to earth got me to smile and even giggle a few times. This is unheard of for me with Will Farrell

An example? When Captain Gene says that the DA who was just in his office was very powerful and never comes down to the station, Farrell misinterprets the nature of the Captains comment and says "And he was sitting right here" with a dumb smile on his face, as if he was awed that such a powerful individual would stop by the office

To me, that is funny

Random shit is not clever. It's just random. Farrell singing old timey sailing songs in a bar? Amusing that his character has such an outmoded hobby, and perhaps even chuckle worthy on a good day. Farrell singing "and the children got pink eye and their Harry Potter books were burned"? Gag me. Why would people in a bar be singing that? It makes no sense. I am fine with absurdism (I love STELLA, for instance) but Farrell inserts it into situations where the plot needs to have SOME grounding in reality in order for anything to make sense or carry emotional weight, and it ends up sabotaging the film

At least until the script inexplicably changed his character to be goofy and friendly (when Farrell and Whalberg meet up with him at his night job), Keaton was the funniest thing the movie had going for it. He was trying to deal with outlandish characters in a straight, realistic way. His line about "It's not 'Captain Gene', I don't have a kiddy show' felt real, and was hysterical. His speech at BED BATH AND BEYOND, "well, don't ignore it if you life in Crown Heights, obviously", is the height of intelligent humor IMHO

The rest of the film seemed determined to kill that vibe though. Why would Whalberg, a supposedly serious career cop, say that "EVERYTHING IN STAR WARS IS REAL!". Is it just to be "weird" and therefore funny? That's not funny to me, because it's not real to his character or what anyone in that situation would conceivably say. The stuff about internal damage? Funny. "STAR WARS IS REAL"? Not funny

As for the much ballyhooed jump with the Rock? It WOULD have been funny for me, but it was poorly shot. The best I got from it was an after the fact quiet chuckle once I realized what the movie had done. Because the director never clearly established the geography of the scene, I didn't know that the bushes they were trying to jump for were hundreds of feet away. Instead of laughing their whole way down, I just watched confused till they struck, and then the pay off consisted for me of merely "Oh, I see. They died from a foolish jump. Ha"

The best thing in the entire film was Ray Stevenson, whose visible annoyance with the stupidity of the characters around him was very amusing. His speech about Kiley Minogue was delightful, and he brought a real world hardened edge that help counterbalance the otherwise unhinged nonsense on display. Additionally his Australian accent and cool character name (Roger Wesley) ensured I'd watch till the end credits. I was planning to turn it off and then he showed up, and I knew I had to at least watch the rest to see him in action

In conclusion, Farrell needs to work with someone with more sense than McKay, someone who can reign in his worse tendencies and get him to focus his abilities. I see Farrell as a Jim Carey like figure, only without any worthwhile funny or dramatic flicksto his name. He seems like a guy who just endlessly ad libs on set and then expects the editor to cut together his stream of consciousness "brilliance" into a coherent film. It's a Sisyphean undertaking, and I don't envy those tasked with shaping the raw footage

So yeah, glad I saw it for Stevenson/Keaton, ultimately. The rest was not funny enough to be worthwhile on it's own, and until I suffer another freak memory accident, I'll be steering clear of Will Farrell for the foreseeable future

PS Steve Coogan was funny. His stuff with the tickets and his bribes felt realistic yet absurd, so again it made me laugh

PPS: Farrell screaming about "Gator" etc? Oh god, are there people who actually enjoy this guy doing his schick? It's just painful IMHO
post #121 of 126
sweet mother of god...I can't believe I read the whole thing...
post #122 of 126
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sweet mother of god...I can't believe I read the whole thing...
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post #123 of 126
Liked it a whole lot, but how the hell does a movie like this cost $100 million?
post #124 of 126

I've come to the conclusion that I'll probably never get into McKay's works.  I laughed a few times watching The Other Guys, but I mostly stared quietly at the screen.

post #125 of 126

"Gator don't play no shit!"

"we are going to have sex in your car - it will happen again!"

 

I can't not finish watching this when it pops up on cable.  I wish it had been a bigger hit if only so we can get more Keaton in our lives.  "It's not Captain Gene.  It's just Captain.  I don't have a kid's show.  That's creepy."

post #126 of 126

I fucking love this thing. I really enjoyed it initially, but I rewatched it again recently and it played even better to me the second time through. Then while I was in NY my friend/host wanted to watch it again after we came home drunk one night.

 

It's leaped up to probably my third favorite Ferrell/McKay film behind Anchorman and Talladega Nights. In fact, it may even tie Talladega Nights for me.

 

"Gator wants a little walkin' around money!"

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