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The Lonesome Death of James Stephen Garrett

post #1 of 39
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Yesterday I got an email telling me that James Stephen Garrett was dead, and had been that way for over a year. Later I was told he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

James Stephen Garrett was a prolific letter writer and commenter, and also a nasty, unpleasant, hateful person. He would send letters maybe every second day, usually full of vitriol and anger. Much of it was aimed at me as a liberal - you know, the usual conservative bile of racism and homophobia. It turns out that Garrett was not just a prolific hater at CHUD, but at other sites across the net. A guy who writes elsewhere was the person who gave me this info, and he had first heard from JSG when JSG wished for a holocaust on bike riders. Like, putting them in the oven holocaust. Weird stuff.

Anyway, it's interesting to see a nasty troll come to such an end. Seems fitting.

Does anyone know if James Stephen Garrett had a message board login?
post #2 of 39
Always sad to see someone feel compelled to conclude their life in such a horrific fashion, but from what you've laid out in your post, it doesn't seem like he was a pleasant guy. All the same, it seems sort of tragic that in the end he had nothing left but hate*. For that I blame the likes of Limbaugh and Beck. Maybe if they didn't spend all their time trying to stoke the ludicrous fears and hatreds of people like this JSG guy he'd have found something productive to do with his life other than becoming famous for being bigoted on the internet

PS Just curious, was he wishing a holocaust on bicycle bike riders or motorcycle bikers? I guess either one is terrible but all the same I'd be interested to know.

*or maybe I'm just in a charitable mood
post #3 of 39
The fact that he had three first names is telling. Never trust a person with three first names.
post #4 of 39
Devin writing about JSG on the main page in 2005:

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Devin says: People ask me why I do all this CHUD.com stuff. Is it for the money? The glory? The pussy? Heavens no. It's for people like James Stephen Garrett. He's a fairly regular letter writer, and I think that my collection of missives from the man will one day be of invaluble assistance to law enforcement as they try to unravel his troubled past.
Yikes, prophetic words..
post #5 of 39
Found this. I know it's not a message board login but I though it might be helpful anyway.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A2HII4U9WQ0XUV
post #6 of 39
Fascinating. I wonder if Obama's first year in office was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Our tiny contingent of message board conservatives hasn't changed much over the last three or four years. Someone as vitriolic as JSG would be easy to spot if he were a prolific poster.
post #7 of 39
Well, if that amazon link is the same guy, he clearly had some issues.

Amongst his reviews for movies and books he rates all of Anne Coulter's work 5 stars along with...Mein Kampf: http://tiny.cc/gkk27

Yikes.

He also scored 'Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory' 1 star and had this to say about it.

'For one, there is the Chocolate Factory itself, a kind of gingerbread Auschwitz with looming smokestacks to match. The River of Chocolate is actually blood red: not brown, or caramel, or black, but red. Like blood. In fact, I think it is a river of blood, nourishing by way of strange caverns the vile, fleshy plants that fasten themselves along its unclean banks.'

What a mental case.

Oh yeah, and THIS...http://www.amazon.com/review/RXTHWD0...wasThisHelpful

EDIT: Oh, also, this appears to be his company. Looks like something a super villain would run. http://www.primarch.org/main/index.html

From someone in the UK it's like something from another planet. We never get crazy people like this over here.
post #8 of 39
Well, at the very least it seems that he was either in a lot of pain or very angry - most likely both.

There are many ways to get help if you're in pain, but if you're just so pissed off that you end it...well, I don't know what to say. Just a shitty thing to do on all levels.
post #9 of 39
Unfortunate. We can at least be thankful it wasn't a murder-suicide.
post #10 of 39
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Originally Posted by CDI F. Kelly View Post
There are many ways to get help if you're in pain, but if you're just so pissed off that you end it...well, I don't know what to say. Just a shitty thing to do on all levels.
Life isn't for everybody. We should be glad he didn't try and take anyone with him.
post #11 of 39
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Originally Posted by Trevor View Post
We should be glad he didn't try and take anyone with him.
You couldn't be more right about that. From what limited info there is, he seemed like that type that might go that route. Scary.
post #12 of 39
Regardless of his personality, it's terrible that he took his own life. Maybe with proper treatment, he could have cleared up the hate he had in his heart. Maybe.
post #13 of 39
This would be a better story if you were still getting letters from him and he died over a year ago. OoOooOooOoo! Spooky!
post #14 of 39
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Originally Posted by themykra View Post
'For one, there is the Chocolate Factory itself, a kind of gingerbread Auschwitz with looming smokestacks to match.
Guy sounds like a shitstain, but Gingerbread Auschwitz belongs in this thread post haste.
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post #16 of 39
Thread Starter 
Not only is that his obituary, it's linked earlier in the thread.
post #17 of 39
This whole thread seems morbid and spiteful to me.

I don't know this guy and maybe he was just an asshole, but he sounds like the type of lonely person who has trouble relating to others despite hard work and smarts, and who turns to anonymous internet rage in a misguided attempt to allay self-doubt and self-hatred.

Everything he wrote is just horrible, but I doubt the pain he caused others was nearly commensurate with whatever drove him to take his own life.

The internet is very weird in that, in most cases, we never really know who we're communicating with or how they respond emotionally to what we've written (unless they explicitly and honestly state as much). There's a strange level of remove. I guess this is a boon to some who have trouble picking up on social cues, but it's kind of awful to the extent that it's easy to really offend someone without realizing it. Especially on anonymous sites, there's just the ugliest stuff--and it's awful that people feel compelled to post it and awful that it genuinely hurts others more than they'll ever admit.

When you walk by a raving racist or something on the street, you ignore them, but when an internet troll posts similar vitriol there's a frenzy of rebuttals. It seems like a sad guy met a sad end but the moral of this story is "be nice" and "don't feed the trolls"--not "I told you so."
post #18 of 39
Lots of people die, lots of mean, spiteful people die. Whether online or in real life, it still doesn't stop them being dicks and people calling them that.

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It seems like a sad guy met a sad end but the moral of this story is "be nice" and "don't feed the trolls"--not "I told you so."
Seems like the moral of this story is, if you're an angry, spiteful prick and you take your own life, don't be surprised when nobody gives a shit and calls you things after you're gone.
post #19 of 39
Sorry, Policar. Maybe in his spare time he was a hell of a guy who was responsible for keeping scores of people and cute animals alive and well. Based on most available evidence, the world is better off without him. You run across these kinds of people (of every political stripe) quite often. Angry, vitriolic, interested only in showing how much everything lets them down. Honestly, I find myself thinking, "Why don't you just eat a gun if you're so miserable." Looks like that happens every once in a while. Keeps things in balance.
post #20 of 39
Hell I think this guy was a Herald of things to come. I can't tell you how many acquaintances (ALL white) bitch and moan about "Obamacare" and "Gov't regulations" this and "Liberals caused the Housing crisis" that, and in every case, when you draw them into conversation, it turns out that they made some stupid greedy decision and are now paying for it.



I'm sure this guy was in the same camp, just more extreme.
post #21 of 39
I wonder what the reaction to a regular poster celebrating the death of someone they hated would be.

I'm not standing up for the guy, but this thread is so unbelievably unnecessary.
post #22 of 39
^ That sorta thing turns up semi-regular in the Dead Celebrity thread.

Didn't know the guy but it's tough to mourn the guy who types this:

"Only clowns & harlots paint their faces to go out. Women combine the worst attributes of both with the virtues of neither." ----J. Stephen Garrett
post #23 of 39
It's really a shame reading about a guy who just had that much hatred for the world in his heart. It's one thing to be dismayed my a lot of the goings on in our Country (lord knows I am) but at a certain point you need to let go of the hostility because it will get you nowhere.
post #24 of 39
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^ That sorta thing turns up semi-regular in the Dead Celebrity thread.
Oh, that's alright then.
post #25 of 39
I'm not excusing it, just saying it's curious to throw a flag up over this one when we get all "ding dong the witch is dead" over any semi-villified public figure. What's different here?
post #26 of 39
I would imagine many of us would feel differently about the gentleman's passing if our mailboxes were full of years' worth of sputtering hate mail from him like Devin's was.

That said, my brief exposure to the gentleman's spewing via these links gives me to wonder: does he sound especially batshit to me because I lean really left, or is that also how lefty ranters sound to righties?
post #27 of 39
I think it's more just a matter of crazy than political affiliation. I see stuff written by lefties that makes me briefly hate my political proximity to them.

Also this guy sounds like he was a real piece of shit so good riddance
post #28 of 39
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That said, my brief exposure to the gentleman's spewing via these links gives me to wonder: does he sound especially batshit to me because I lean really left, or is that also how lefty ranters sound to righties?
I think the fact that he actually sent Devin actual letters via the mail would make him certifiably batshit, no matter which direction you lean towards.

I would have been seriously freaked out if I received a bunch of letters form a guy like that; the dude seemed to be a real creep.
post #29 of 39
I hope it hurt.
post #30 of 39
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Originally Posted by Ben W View Post
I think the fact that he actually sent Devin actual letters via the mail would make him certifiably batshit, no matter which direction you lean towards.

I would have been seriously freaked out if I received a bunch of letters form a guy like that; the dude seemed to be a real creep.
Unless you're a kindly old grandfather or a child writing to Santa Claus, sending any letter by mail is kind of a warning sign these days lol
post #31 of 39
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
This would be a better story if you were still getting letters from him and he died over a year ago. OoOooOooOoo! Spooky!

Awesome. I'm amazed Stephen King hasn't written and released this as a story since you posted.

The way Devin said he'd been dead for a year made me think he'd been such a recluse that his body hadn't actually been discovered for a year. Oh well, the man might be dead but his poison (closeted homosexuality?) lives on in cyberspace.

I wonder if beloved Persephone lapped at his "rivers of chocolate" after he did the deed. An exploded human head would be Wonkaland to even the fussiest feline. Must've been like winning a golden ticket.
post #32 of 39
Thread title: intentional Creepshow reference?
post #33 of 39
Thread Starter 
Yes
post #34 of 39
Yeah, he touched some meteor shit and turned into a man-shaped frond before shotgunning himself.
post #35 of 39
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.


That's how it goes in the end and it's more true today than when it was first written. I don't think the majority of people in life set out to be hate filled dicks but give them a reason (even if it's one they've created via self-delusion) to be angry and an outlet to express that rage and you'll be shocked at how good at it they are.
post #36 of 39
Totally unfamiliar with this guy, but when Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, etc. go belly up, see if I don't laugh my fucking tits off and do a happy dance on their grave (be it figuratively or if I happen to be in town, literally).

I couldn't begrudge a thread like this.
post #37 of 39
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Originally Posted by Luca S. View Post
Thread title: intentional Creepshow reference?

If you harp on talking about movies and then decide to not talk about movies you still have to keep it about movies. Rulez iz rulez.
post #38 of 39
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I hope it hurt.
This, sir, is why you rule the internets.
post #39 of 39
Sucks that the guy was an asshole but I don't think I can ever hate someone enough to be glad they are dead (or at least I hope that will never be the case.)
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