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John Sturges

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I'd like to know more about this guy. Dude has a fistfull of very high profile stone cold classics in his resume, plus a lot of less well known interesting seeming movies, but he never seems to get talked about or given much respect as an auteur. For why? From the little I've seen of his stuff, I kinda get the vibe that he could be a very important link between Howard Hawks (who his movies remind me of in their humor and focus on male friendship) and modern action cinema; he seems to have really excelled at the men on a mission genre, too (pity Inglourious Basterds didn't get people namedropping him more.) The films of his I've seen are wildly entertaining, and he worked with all of those 60's macho icons we know and love- Marvin, Borgnine, McQueen, Bronson.

Is it just a question of his biggest movies being so iconic that they overshadow their creator - The Great Escape and The Magnificent Seven feel like they've ALWAYS been there, it's hard to imagine anyone being responsible for making them?

And, more importantly, what movies of his should I track down?

The little I've seen:

Bad Day At Black Rock - So fucking awesome. It's included in the Warner Bros Controversial Classics box for dealing with the possible murder of a japanese immigrant during WWII, but without wanting to downplay its social relevance, it is also just an action movie through and through. Great mounting tension. Spencer Tracy brings this incredible sense of confidence and moral authority to his role; Lee Marvin plays one of those psycho hotheads that he excelled at in the 50's, Ernest Borgnine is smiling and swarmy. Plus Robert Ryan and Walter Brennan! Wotta cast.

Never So Few - I've namedropped this movie a few times on CHUD. It's nominally a WWII movie starring Frank Sinatra, only Ol' Blue Eyes abandons the burmese battlefield pretty early on and it morphs into this fun intrigue/adventure movie. A very young Steve McQueen plays Sinatra's driver. Charles Bronson plays an interesting character, too - he's a navajo soldier who's surly and agressive, except you never get to figure out entirely how much everyone's antipathy towards him has to do with racism and how much it's due to his own antisocial demeanour. He sort of acts like I imagine Bronson did in real life, actually.

The Magnificent Seven - Has this movie become underrated? Every movie fan worth his salt has to point out that it's just a remake of the Kurosawa masterpiece which is a lot more profound yadda yadda yadda. And I suppose it's light hearted enough for people to use it as an argument about how Hollywood dilutes/bastardises its source material, plus it's two hours long while the original is four hours like a REAL serious movie, so clearly if you prefer it you just have a short attention span. And sure, Kurosawa focuses more on the peasant's misery, the battle in the rain is unfuckwithable and the entire tenor of Seven Samurai a lot more coherent, but fuck it: The Magnificent Seven is still a whole lot of fun! Wonderful soundtrack, great action, a plot that doesn't pull too many punches for the sake of its protagonists, and hell, how could you not like a men on a mission/western mashup (see also: The Professionals)?

The Great Escape - I don't really have a whole lot to say about this movie and out of the ones I've seen by him it's probably my least favourite (though Never So Few is probably the weakest one, plotwise), but when the worst I've seen by a director is something still as indisputably iconic and entertaning as The Great Escape, surely it is time to investigate further.

Gunfight At The O.K. Corral is weird - it's one of those go-to titles when you want to evoke western imagery in pop culture, kinda like how there's millions of movies/TV eps/comic book stories called 'The Good, The Bad & The (insert Joke Here)', but I've heard very little about the actual movie; I assume it's canonical but I haven't seen it show up on too many best of lists. Ice Station Zebra is on TCM Europe all the time; if I knew it was a Sturges joint I'd already have DVRed it. I'm checking through the rest of his filmography on IMDB - kinda want to see them all!
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I think John Sturges' Last Train From Gun Hill is one of the great underrated psychological Westerns. I'd put it up with Anthony Mann's and Budd Boetticher's work from the era.

I never cared for Gunfight At The O.K. Corral ( visions of Tombstone dancing in my head) til last year when I watched it on a 60 inch. New appreciation for Sturges' visual flair and showmanship.
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Tagline for 1962's A Girl Called Tamiko, according to imdb:

"He was half Oriental...but he used the women of two continents WITHOUT SHAME OR GUILT!"

Play on, playa, play on.
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I think John Sturges' Last Train From Gun Hill is one of the great underrated psychological Westerns. I'd put it up with Anthony Mann's and Budd Boetticher's work from the era.
I agree. I would definitely put it up there with Seven Men From Now and Winchester '73.

Definitely check this one out.
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Leading actors in Sturges films, from 1960 to 1976:

Yul Brynner
Lana Turner
Frank Sinatra
Laurence Harvey
Steve McQueen
George Maharis (who? But it's a sci-fi flick so it doesn't matter)
Burt Lancaster
James Garner
Rock Hudson
Gregory Peck
Clint Eastwood
Charles Bronson
John Wayne
Michael Caine

Plus supporting roles for George Hamilton, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr, Henry Silva, Dana Andrews, Anne Francis, Donald Pleasance, Martin Landau, Robert Ryan, Ernest Borgnine, Jim Brown, Patrick McGoohan, Gene Hackman, Robert Duvall, Jill Ireland, John Saxon and Donald Sutherland. In a paralell universe where CHUD existed in the 60's, Sturges would be a total B Action Movie thread king.
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And don't forget James Coburn.
post #7 of 11
I'm not going to claim to be an expert on Sturges but I've loved BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK and THE GREAT ESCAPE, second to last, Daniel? McQueen's motorcycle chase alone should bump it a spot or two (though, admittedly I've not yet watched the stuff you have ahead of it).

This thread caught my eye because they were running THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN last week on TCM's 24 hours with Steve McQueen (right before Bullitt) and I dug the hell out of it. I couldn't believe that a movie with McQueen, Bronson, Coburn, Brenner, and Robert Vaughn had eluded me for so long. It struck me that it's the type of flick that would be cool to see remade every generation. Just gather your badass actors and a director with some flair and you've got a cool movie on your hands.
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Wasn't dissing The Great Escape! I just genuinley haven't seen a Sturges movie I didn't enjoy the hell out of yet.

The funny thing about Magnificent Seven is that, Brynner aside, none of those guys were big stars when it was made.
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George Maharis (who? But it's a sci-fi flick so it doesn't matter)
Never saw it, but I know Maharis came from a TV show. And he was actually pretty good in Sturges' The Satan Bug. It's barely a sci-fi movie, more like a 60s version of 24, with Maharis almost a Jack Bauer prototype out to stop madman Richard Basehart from ending the world. Sturges gets to show off more of those suspense skills he used so effectively in The Great Escape. Ed Asner and James "Lo Pan" Hong turn up in small roles. The movie has a few too many flaws to be called a classic, but definitely worth a look whenever it shows up on Turner Classic US.

Another Sturges I like a lot is his remake of Kind Lady- Slow, building menace with Ethel Barrymore held prisoner in her own home (it's kind of a really restrained home invasion flick). The last few minutes, with Barrymore desperately trying to get help, and dodgy-accented Keenan Wynn creeping up to her room to do her in, are extremely tense. Sturges could have you biting your nails with the best of em.
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The Law and Jake Wade has by far the best cinematography that i've seen from one of his films but the story is nothing to write home about.

I saw it and Warlock within a couple of days of each other and I swear Widmark wears the exact same costume for the first act of Warlock that he does for the whole of Jake. I like to think that he just wandered from one film set to the other without a break (that's the studio system for ya).

I'm not entirely enamoured by Sturges, even though he's done films that i've enjoyed, they often feel nondescript, like they could have been made by anybody.
I'm also suprised to see that he never did any television work before going into features, cause they have that kind of aesthetic and "middle of the road" approach to them.
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Nice to see some Sturges appreciation.

Bad Day at Black Rock was one of the best films of the 1950s, but I can't say that Sturges' direction was the strongest component.

However, his steady hand kept Hallelujah Trail from turning into another mid-60s junk western.
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