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The Goodies: The most overlooked British TV Show

post #1 of 22
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Watching this program today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wUiDciR08) got me thinking about not only how great The Goodies were but how often their place in the annuls of comedy is overlooked.

What was really interesting was how interlinked with the Pythons they actually were and how close Tim Brooke Taylor came to becoming a Python (something I didn't know).

As a group they were masters of the live action cartoon, something many have tried since and not come as close to doing and they mastered the art of working for adults and children way before "The Simpsons" ever did.

Some classic eppisodes like Kitty Kong, Bigfoot and some really big name guest stars makes this show well worth watching and yet it's one of the few shows to never be repeated on any channel. Something I think is a crying shame.

Anyone else share love for these guys?
post #2 of 22
I vaguely remember them. As I recall, public television used to play them every once in a while when they'd run out of the usual Monty Python/Fawlty Towers/Rising Damp shows. I remember liking the show but not as much as the others.
post #3 of 22
It did get rerun on BBC Prime.

Thoughts on "The Funky Gibbon"?
post #4 of 22
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Not as good as the song about Bigfoot

If BBC prime shows it that's news to me, it sure as hell don't get shown on any of the UK channels.
post #5 of 22
The puppet government episode is absolute brilliance.
post #6 of 22
I loved the shit out of this show as a kid when it actually ran on American PBS fairly consistently. Now it pretty much has ZERO cultural footprint in the U.S.

My favorite episode is the one where they go to the combat training school for infants.
post #7 of 22
That's true, I remember seeing it all over PBS when I was a kid, about the same time they started running Python. And now, zip.
post #8 of 22
i think the main thing we can take from it is what a superb talent Bill Oddie was, now a seemingly embittered twitcher - he is the Goodies, taylor was just the nice-but dim foil and although greene has become a bit of a legend lately he wasn't all that back then - i think of him as the egon spengler of the group.

I revisited it a few years ago when it hit on DVD and it held up pretty well.

I also picked up those DVDs of Do not adjust your set and at last the 1948 show - both are pretty good too, worth watching but not worth buying.
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
That's true, I remember seeing it all over PBS when I was a kid, about the same time they started running Python. And now, zip.
Can't even get this on DVD in the States, whereas similarly old/obscure Brit stuff like Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin is readily available.
post #10 of 22
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The thing is they did some damn good and pretty political stuff. For example they did an episode set in South Africa where all the Black South Africans people had left and the White ones had nothing left to bully. So they bought in Apart Height - persecution of the short people.

I also love the fact that Mary Whitehouse sent them a letter saying how good their show was so they made it their mission to offend her. What finally did it wasn't the episode poking fun at her (complete with leather clad women spanking each other) but an episode where Tim Brook-Taylor is seen putting on his trousers and has a carrot on his pants.
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by Ken Savage View Post
Watching this program today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wUiDciR08) got me thinking about not only how great The Goodies were but how often their place in the annuls of comedy is overlooked.

What was really interesting was how interlinked with the Pythons they actually were and how close Tim Brooke Taylor came to becoming a Python (something I didn't know).

As a group they were masters of the live action cartoon, something many have tried since and not come as close to doing and they mastered the art of working for adults and children way before "The Simpsons" ever did.

Some classic eppisodes like Kitty Kong, Bigfoot and some really big name guest stars makes this show well worth watching and yet it's one of the few shows to never be repeated on any channel. Something I think is a crying shame.

Anyone else share love for these guys?
Here in Australia they played every afternoon from the late seventies all the way through to the early nineties, as a consequence there's entire generations of us aussies for whom The Goodies are totally iconic.

We used to get Astroboy then The Goodies followed by Monkey! in the afternoons. We had it damn good as far as entertainment goes when I was a lad. You still see Goodies tshirts walking down the street and I always find myself smiling knowingly at who ever's wearing one and getting a return smile.

Tim, Bill and Gray-gray have actually made a bit of a retro comeback on cable tv here in the last year or so and I always find myself watching them if they're on, even tho I can damn near quote most eps.

The comedy hasn't aged anywhere near as well as the Pythons - to many references to the times that date it terribly - but the physical comedy is still brilliant.

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i think the main thing we can take from it is what a superb talent Bill Oddie was, now a seemingly embittered twitcher - he is the Goodies, taylor was just the nice-but dim foil and although greene has become a bit of a legend lately he wasn't all that back then - i think of him as the egon spengler of the group.
I could not disagree more personally, For me it was Graham that was the trios MVP. He may have had the nerd persona in the group - but he was by far the most gifted physical comedian of the three. Every time he was called upon to do the physical stuff he was always that much funnier than the other two.
post #12 of 22
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Here in Australia they played every afternoon from the late seventies all the way through to the early nineties, as a consequence there's entire generations of us aussies for whom The Goodies are totally iconic
Same as in NZ. Grew up on it (although I remember alot of friends not liking it much), and it's always been repeated regularly throughout the years, and easily available on DVD for a long time now, too. I always remember the trout farm episode the most from my really wee tyke days.
post #13 of 22
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Same as in NZ. Grew up on it (although I remember alot of friends not liking it much), and it's always been repeated regularly throughout the years, and easily available on DVD for a long time now, too. I always remember the trout farm episode the most from my really wee tyke days.
Is that the one with that's a Jaws homage with the megatrout that swallows the phonograph?

My favourite was when they get buried in the giant block of concrete and end up growing old in there but seemingly Bill never gets any younger. Either that or the Clockwork Orange homage episode (The Transistorised Carrot I think they called it) when Tim and Bill become slaves to Big Bunny, the rabbit Graham sends to the moon.

It's amazing how episodes have stayed with me from when I was a really little boy.
post #14 of 22
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Looking at some clips on You Tube there seems to have been a hell of a lot of episodes with former Dr Who's in as well. Jon Pertwee and Patrick Troughton appear to be regulars.

But nothing beats Jon Cleese appearing as a Genie and screaming "This is a Kids show" for no apparent reason.
post #15 of 22
The episode about Lancastrian martial arts and black pudding is on record as actually causing a man to die with laughter.
post #16 of 22
Graham Garden and TBT ended up on "I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue" which may be the best thing that British Radio 4 comedy ever produced.

Goodies are very much unner appreciated
post #17 of 22
Count me in on this. The Goodies was the best thing going when I was kid. I fucking loved it. That line up of TV Rain Dog mentioned before is just missing the inclusion of Doctor Who; that's some formative shit right there. Was never allowed to watch Monkey, though. My mother hated it and refused to let me watch it. Boo!

They used to constantly refer to the fact they were never taken seriously because they were seen as a childrens show, but the Apart Height episode, the puppet government and that fantastic Punk Rock episode where Tim eventually replaces his head with a pumpkin was fucking sensational stuff. Terrific way of getting a message across in a manner that kids completely take on board.

To this day I can't ride a bike around on a nice day without hearing "Tulips From Amsterdam" in my head, thanks to the giant fish episode where they realize the fish goes pyscho anytime it hears Max Bygraves.

It's playing again on the ABC here but I haven't had a chance to sit down and watch it.
post #18 of 22
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Is that the one with that's a Jaws homage with the megatrout that swallows the phonograph?
Yep, that's the one. And although I haven't seen it in God knows how long, I distinctly remember it getting blown up at the end and showering fish fingers.
post #19 of 22
Count me in on this. The Goodies was the best thing going when I was kid. I fucking loved it. That line up of TV Rain Dog mentioned before is just missing the inclusion of Doctor Who; that's some formative shit right there. Was never allowed to watch Monkey, though. My mother hated it and refused to let me watch it. Boo!

They used to constantly refer to the fact they were never taken seriously because they were seen as a childrens show, but the Apart Height episode, the puppet government and that fantastic Punk Rock episode where Tim eventually replaces his head with a pumpkin was fucking sensational stuff. Terrific way of getting a message across in a manner that kids completely take on board.

To this day I can't ride a bike around on a nice day without hearing "Tulips From Amsterdam" in my head, thanks to the giant fish episode where they realize the fish goes pyscho anytime it hears Max Bygraves.

It's playing again on the ABC here but I haven't had a chance to sit down and watch it.
post #20 of 22
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The episode about Lancastrian martial arts and black pudding is on record as actually causing a man to die with laughter.
I've never seen The Goodies, but have wanted to for quite some time simply based on this incident.

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On 24 March 1975 Alex Mitchell, a 50-year-old bricklayer from King's Lynn literally died laughing while watching an episode of The Goodies. According to his wife, who was a witness, Mitchell was unable to stop laughing whilst watching a sketch in the episode "Kung Fu Kapers" in which Tim Brooke-Taylor, dressed as a kilted Scotsman, used a set of bagpipes to defend himself from a black pudding-wielding Bill Oddie (master of the ancient Lancastrian martial art "Ecky-Thump") in a demonstration of the Scottish martial art of "Hoots-Toot-ochaye." After twenty-five minutes of continuous laughter Mitchell finally slumped on the settee and died from heart failure. His widow later sent the Goodies a letter thanking them for making Mitchell's final moments so pleasant.
post #21 of 22
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We used to get Astroboy then The Goodies followed by Monkey! in the afternoons. We had it damn good as far as entertainment goes when I was a lad. You still see Goodies tshirts walking down the street and I always find myself smiling knowingly at who ever's wearing one and getting a return smile.
Another Aussie chiming in here for how awesome this TV line up was.

The episode people keep mentioning in the thread about the puppet government was The Goodies Rule and it was by far my favourite episode.

About a month ago they started showing The Goodies on ABC2 at 8pm Monday nights. Looks like for some reason they have started with the 3rd series.
post #22 of 22
Jesus, I remember that one! But I never knew about that poor bugger until now. I'm fuckin' speechless.
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