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post #51 of 296
Yeah the 3d was pretty shit. The opening where you see the hills was pretty bad seeing as your eyes can't quite make out where to focus (It doesn't help that it looks like a pop-up book too).

Hated the final shot mainly because A) I liked Scott and B) I always think shots like that are cheap ways to end something.

Still, it was good to see Shue again on the big screen. She's not the greatest actress by any stretch, but she's always convincing.

Yes, Paul Scheer does seem to vanish from the film, which is odd that Aja would cut a kill out of the flick. Still, it goes to show that I had so much fun with the flick that I didn't notice until a few hours later.

My only complaint is that the underwater attacks looked like total shit. I don't know whether it was the film or the 3d conversion but it looked like murky mess. Thankfully it only happens a couple of times.
post #52 of 296
Paul Scheer's demise will be on the DVD according to Beaks' interview w/ Aja on AICN. I guess they ran out of money/time before they could put the final touches on the FX. I hope the same goes for Kate's boyfriend who killed dozens of screaming college kids w/ his boat. I cracked up hardest at that part and O'Connell's "It took my penis..."

Yeah, and fucking lame 3D. That's the first and last time I pay extra for post-coverted shit.
post #53 of 296
I was not as enthralled by this movie as I expected to be.

My main problem probably comes from the advertising. You watch the trailer they attached to Avatar months ago, and it looks like "piranha eating Spring Breakers" is the setup (first 15 minutes) and then it's chaos from that point out with people tracking and trying to kill the piranha. Sadly, it's the opposite: the people aren't aware of the piranha for almost the first hour, until finally there's a pretty relentlessly gory payoff. I appreciated it, but it was sort of too little, too late at that point. At least what happens to Eli Roth's character was worth a good "OHH!" and there were a shitload of naked women, as well as several glorious (gorious?) KNB FX.

I was also a tad disappointed that my favorite shot from the trailer is not in the movie, which is the one where Adam Scott is on his Ski-Doo and it does a sideways 360 in and out of the water. The moment I saw that in the trailer I thought it was genius. I mean, I guess the trailer illustrates that nothing happens to him, but I still thought it was awesome and clever and I was sad it wasn't in the movie. I also could have used a little more of Elisabeth Shue being a badass. The part when she finds out her son is in danger and runs across a bunch of overturned boats, hops on a raft and slides into a motorboat was pretty awesome if you ask me.

I could also go into the weird thoughts I have about death, but perhaps not.
post #54 of 296
3D is bad but great to see Kelly Brook on the big screen. Some nice kills and gore but not really worth the 3D prices. Jerry O'Connel nailed it as a scumbag.

Was thinking they had to write a big check for Dreyfuss to be in this and the producers love porn stars.

See Scott Pilgrim first.
post #55 of 296
Fun time at the movies.

If there ever was a reason to throw hundreds of millions of dollars to create the technology to capture something in 3D, it was Kelly Brook and Riley Steele's mermaid scene. Missed opportunity.
post #56 of 296
Since I grew up on monster movies, I had a great time when I saw the movie last night. While the 3D was flawed, the Kelly Brook, Riley Steele underwater make out looked great in 3D! Forget a werewolf falling in love with a baby: that scene is why movies were invented!

The best part is the mayhem caused by the prianha attack at the wet shirt contest. I knew that stage couldn't hold all those people.
post #57 of 296
Maybe it's just that I prefer a certain aesthetic, maybe it's because I dislike Aja as a director, or maybe because I'm beginning to loathe ironic detachment in horror films, but I think some people are just too fucking easy to please.

It's got its points. It's a monster movie and in some of my favorite monster movies the characters are shit and the plot perfunctory, but my favorite monster movies are from the 70's and 80's (and the extras on this film probably got paid more than the leads in those films), this isn't the 70's or 80's. Make an effort and create characters who aren't completely loathsome in their blandness. By the by, I instantly rejected the kid the moment I saw his Pixies shirt, and his room, and I like The Pixies.

Most attempts at humor basically fail, but Jerry O'Connell plays a good douche and Adam Scott thinks he can fight an army of prehistoric pirahna with a shotgun, so I guess that was all fun (and yes, there were a lot of tits, great, moving on).

I don't hate the film, and I guess I can understand why some of you are squeeing over it, but Jesus, what a flat, unengaging film. In 3D!!!!
post #58 of 296
Is it going to replace Inglorios Basterds as my favorite movie? No, but the movie never tries to be more than a fun, tit filled gory movie. On that level it works.
post #59 of 296
That was a fun and bloody time at the movies! The gore is just outrageous. I loved Jerry O'Connell..."They took my dick, Jake." Or did he say penis? Whatever, it killed in the theater I was in, altho there were not many people there.
post #60 of 296
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Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
Is it going to replace Inglorios Basterds as my favorite movie? No, but the movie never tries to be more than a fun, tit filled gory movie. On that level it works.
My issue with the film isn't about it not being some kind of masterpiece, it's about whether I felt it succeeded at what it was trying to be. For the most part I don't think it did. I mean, fuck, it's not like I'm so highbrow that I didn't notice Gianna Michaels as the parasail girl.
post #61 of 296
Fucking fun! Huge cheers for a movie that successfully balances between shit and brilliance. So many great 'over the top' moments but what really grabbed me were all the subtle 'bad movie' bits. If you caught it, the wounded spring breaker on the police boat just after Ving bites it, might deserve the best/worst acting award. Whether it was a touch of genius by Aja or just the luggage that comes with extras trying to act, that entire mayhem scene was packed to the gills with that stuff. And speaking of that scene, An American Werewolf in London would be proud.

I did think there was a tragically missed opportunity in not introducing flying piranha as the big shock ending, but I hope it was only lack of budget or time that stopped them.

I loved that Adam Scott's delivery was so spot on. "You're okay, you're okay. Breathe." I loved that Lil' Steve McQueen's rescue plan was one of the worst rescue plans ever. My friend commented that he almost hoped it wouldn't have worked and the surviving characters would just brush it off because it was so hair brained a scheme. I loved that you could see the hamster wheel spinning in Jerry O'Connell's coked up skull after the statement that the kid's Mother is the sheriff. In full agreement that he is the highlight of the movie. In the annals of memorable quotes, I only hope that if I'm ever eaten in half by piranhas, that my last words will also be, "Wet t-shirts."

Another sick and twisted highlight, the Dad, Mom and 3 young children that were sitting in the row in front of my friend and I. Dad, wins!
post #62 of 296
Robert Fure's review nailed it for me, and I love this quote from him: "Think of Piranha like a hand job that never finishes. Sure it feels good sometimes, but after awhile it just starts to chafe".
post #63 of 296
Fure is incredibly uptight.
post #64 of 296
A bit disappointed. Don't let the critics oversell this one — many of them probably brought low expectations to it and were happily surprised at how much it goes for broke in a few scenes. If you go into it expecting it to be one of the all-time exploitation greats based on more easily impressed critics than Devin (who gave it an 8.5 but seems to have some perspective on it), you're in for a letdown.

Another shot from the trailer that isn't in the movie: Jessica Szohr face to face with the slowly advancing pack of piranha. I'm guessing the culprit's a script change.
post #65 of 296
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Originally Posted by kurtmandersen View Post
what really grabbed me were all the subtle 'bad movie' bits. If you caught it, the wounded spring breaker on the police boat just after Ving bites it, might deserve the best/worst acting award.
There was a lot going on but I think I know the guy you're talking about (his arm was all fucked up?). Very funny.
post #66 of 296
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Fure is incredibly uptight.
Possibly, but he put his finger on why some of us were underwhelmed.

Ultimately, the goofs who also wrote the dead-ass Sorority Row remake are not John Sayles. And I obviously don't mean Sayles in Lone Star mode, I mean Sayles in writing-solid-and-witty-scripts-for-Corman-and-Dante mode. There's no law that says this couldn't have been a clothesline of outrageous set-pieces and skillfully written; the two are not mutually exclusive.
post #67 of 296
I loved it. Aja finally lived up to the promise of High Tension (I enjoyed Hills but wasn't wowed). The Wet T-Shirt Massacre is a setpiece I think horror fans will be talking about for years to come. Too many great gore gags to name.

Is it wrong I chuckled when Gianna Michaels showed up?
post #68 of 296
I had a great time and to me the 3D was at worst less than effective.

Is digital the only way to see the movie or can they do realD with a film print? Maybe I'm used to crap projection but I got to see this digitally and I thought it looked great!

Cameron is a guy who seems more interested in setting records and being biggest, newest, most expensive. It's nice to see 3D in its proper William Castle sleazy context.
post #69 of 296
My biggest problem with the 3D was the opening titles. They really hurt my eyes.
post #70 of 296
The funniest part of the movie was the really weird flat tone Adam Scott had as they approached the sinking boat. Just for three lines he was really flat and emotionless, it was fucking weird.

It was gory, but not fun-gory, gruesome-gory, which I wasn't expecting. I also wasn't expecting it to have the third act completely missing. What a shitty ending. My favorite Aja movie, at least.
post #71 of 296
Yeah I have no idea what they were thinking with that ending. It's almost like they just
totally ran out of money to film a third act. Anyway, it was a great time at the movies and I could not have been happier.
post #72 of 296
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My favorite Aja movie, at least.
This may deserve its own thread elsewhere, but, while I just couldn't swallow the ending of High Tension and I skipped Mirrors, I thought his Hills Have Eyes remake was better, primarily because I found it very funny and very French at times. The fact that the villain of that movie is killed when a character stabs an American flag through his neck will always bring a smile to my face.
post #73 of 296
Thread Starter 
The 3rd act was the boat rescue.
post #74 of 296
I think most are commenting on it being truncated and underwhelming, not that the film literally has no 3rd act. Edit/Admission: I wanted the lead character's crush to die. Badly.
post #75 of 296
Thread Starter 
I liked the end. It was really only place for the movie to end.

The family is divided in the first act because of Spring Break and then the presence of Piranhas. Heroes overcome Piranhas and reassemble the family. I thought that was executed correctly in 82 minutes.
post #76 of 296
Okay, if you dug it, that's all fine, but the devil is in the details. Executed correctly and well, are two different things. This is the complaint.
post #77 of 296
Thread Starter 
I agree-his crush was boring... But I thought the movie did a good job of using her as a damoiselle in distress rather than, anything else.

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That's nice. I'm stealing it.
post #78 of 296
Douchebag boat killer got torn apart after his boat fell over, I'm pretty sure. Vanishing Paul Scheer is evidence to me that that film was just too fun to nitpick.

It's an oft-repeated sentiment, but the movie knew exactly what it was and hoped you did too. I haven't seen any 3D post conversions to compare it to, so really my only criteria for 3D is that it be on par with the shit from 1982 and not be 3 hours long. Mission accomplished.
post #79 of 296
I thought Paul Scheer's character fell in the water when Jerry O'Connell did. He just didn't surface again.
post #80 of 296
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It's an oft-repeated sentiment, but the movie knew exactly what it was and hoped you did too. I haven't seen any 3D post conversions to compare it to, so really my only criteria for 3D is that it be on par with the shit from 1982 and not be 3 hours long. Mission accomplished.
Pretty much, except I was hoping for more of what Christopher Lloyd was up to, tonally.

I do want to give the film props for being the kind of gory that you do not see often at all. Very muscley and gruesome.

But the 3D was useless, more of a distraction than anything. In MBV3D, the stuff really comes right out at you, and they have fun making the audience squirm and react to it, but here it didn't add anything at all to the film.

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I thought Paul Scheer's character fell in the water when Jerry O'Connell did. He just didn't surface again.
It can be assumed, but it's not on film.
post #81 of 296
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I think most are commenting on it being truncated and underwhelming, not that the film literally has no 3rd act. Edit/Admission: I wanted the lead character's crush to die. Badly.
Yeah this is obviously what I was talking about. I KNOW it had a 3rd act, it was just one of the weakest ends to a movie I've ever seen. There was at least 15-20 minutes more of movie here that we didn't see. The movie didn't really end, it just stopped. The Pirahnas were still swimming around and killing people (it's not like the ones by the beach just up and decided to go away all of a sudden), Lloyd had just given his ominous warning and the big parent fish had showed up.

In a typical film this would have led up to the real 3rd act where the heroes go and finish off the big baddies and the rest of the little ones. And it's not like Aja was trying to do something avant-garde here and buck some sort of horror movie trend. I really believe they just ran out of time and money and didn't know how to end it so they chose that one.
post #82 of 296
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In a typical film this would have led up to the real 3rd act where the heroes go and finish off the big baddies and the rest of the little ones. And it's not like Aja was trying to do something avant-garde here and buck some sort of horror movie trend. I really believe they just ran out of time and money and didn't know how to end it so they chose that one.
I would not be at all shocked to learn they dragged the beach stuff out to make the bloodbath the third act when it's really the second. How many set-to-music montages of people dancing on boats do we need? Not as many as the film has.
post #83 of 296
Thread Starter 
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In a typical film this would have led up to the real 3rd act where the heroes go and finish off the big baddies and the rest of the little ones. And it's not like Aja was trying to do something avant-garde here and buck some sort of horror movie trend.
They kill the group of Piranhas that are attacking the protagonists of the story. It is a completely traditional 3rd act.

Besides the porn-stars doing a lengthy underwater peep-show, there is nothing avante-garde in this movie.
post #84 of 296
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I would not be at all shocked to learn they dragged the beach stuff out to make the bloodbath the third act when it's really the second. How many set-to-music montages of people dancing on boats do we need? Not as many as the film has.
I personally believe that you can never have enough shots of hot girls dancing (and as a former Dj I was really digging the music), but yeah...this movie was obviously using this stuff as filler.
post #85 of 296
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They kill the group of Piranhas that are attacking the protagonists of the story. It is a completely traditional 3rd act.

Besides the porn-stars doing a lengthy underwater peep-show, there is nothing avante-garde in this movie.
I think you're still missing the specifics of the complaints. They didn't resolve anything. Yes, Shue saved her kids, good for her, but they killed what? Maybe 300-500 piranha? Out of thousands that were still swimming about getting their douche buffet on. Had the threat been neutralized across the board, the (really lame) introduction of the parent fish would have had a bigger kick to tag the end of the film with. Also, I guess Rhames' character's death was supposed to be heroic? Seems to me that he was kind of a fucking moron who sacrificed big to accomplish very little.
post #86 of 296
Another thing I missed: Dina Meyer was in this movie? Where? I saw her name in the opening credits and then again in the end credits and I thought "Shit, I don't remember her at all!"

I imagine she was another cop?
post #87 of 296
I believe she's the benibbled female diver in Scott's crew.
post #88 of 296
Not sure what people were expecting from this. It's not Jaws and it never tries to be anything but a cheesy romp with tits and gore, and in shit 3d as well.

Come on admit it..... You had fun!
post #89 of 296
Thread Starter 
I think you're assuming that I don't have "Alternate-3rd-Act-Fantasies." I do. I just don't understand what you all wanted out of the ending.

Piranha massacre?
post #90 of 296
I've explained myself enough in this one area. Moving on. There's that shot of a piranha egg when they discover the underwater lake that reminded me of this:




I suspect its intentional. A cool shot in a cool sequence that gave me hope for the proceeding hour. Oh well. (I do love the way the divers are framed in the crevice, like the jagged blade of a knife or a giant tooth).
post #91 of 296
I saw Dina Meyer in the movie. I think she was the diver girl. Either that or she was that other female cop. I remember seeing her, but it's so quick that you can miss seeing her in the movie.

At least the huge piranha set up the sequel for a remake of Piranha II: The Spawning...IN 3D!
post #92 of 296
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Another thing I missed: Dina Meyer was in this movie? Where? I saw her name in the opening credits and then again in the end credits and I thought "Shit, I don't remember her at all!"
She was the female diver as stated above.

I have to believe an extended cut we will get more of her. At 40 plus she is still a stunner.
post #93 of 296
Pretty much loved it. I haven't seen too much post-converted 3D before so I can't compare it to much, but I liked it. My biggest problem with it was how murky the underwater stuff was. Although that could just be the theater not running the film to spec, even with all the pre-show 3D branding going on.
post #94 of 296
I do resent the idea that a movie has to be either a fun, gory, and exploitative callback to 80's horror movies, OR have a story/characters that feel complete, but never both. This is a sloppy film with obvious signs of being rushed. It had a lot of good stuff in it, but it's not too much to expect it to at least TRY to tell a real story.

And to people who thought the 3D was fine, I do want to ask if it added anything to the experience for you. It didn't for me, like My Bloody Valentine 3D's effects did. I can't think of a single moment of the film that was improved by the effects. And if it didn't add anything to the experience except 3 dollars to the ticket price, I feel that's grounds to complain. That is, if you were as underwhelmed by it as I was.
post #95 of 296
The best 3D I've seen in the theater is still My Bloody Valentine 3D. That's a peak that may not be topped. At least until Drive Angry blazes through and is awesome in 3D since it's by the same team.

Avatar was good, but the 3D didn't really make me go "WOW!"

The Final Destination was pretty good 3D, but for all the carnage on display in Piranha 3D I'd rate it above that one, and The Final Destination wasn't a post convert.

There were only a few spots where the Post Conversion looked hazy and bothersome. At the beginning, and a few spots through the movie. I will agree that the underwater scenes during some of the Piranha attacks was pretty unwatchable. Though the rest of the 3D was great.

It's not every day you see a floating penis in water, then get chewed up and spat out by a Piranha on a movie theater screen, and in 3D.

Funniest bit was that there was this dumbass couple who brought a baby boy and a little girl that looked like she was 3. If they weren't covering her eyes, she's going to end up warped.
post #96 of 296
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I think you're still missing the specifics of the complaints. They didn't resolve anything. Yes, Shue saved her kids, good for her, but they killed what? Maybe 300-500 piranha? Out of thousands that were still swimming about getting their douche buffet on. Had the threat been neutralized across the board, the (really lame) introduction of the parent fish would have had a bigger kick to tag the end of the film with. Also, I guess Rhames' character's death was supposed to be heroic? Seems to me that he was kind of a fucking moron who sacrificed big to accomplish very little.
Dude, it's a lake. They aren't going to grow exponentially and threaten the world.

They're fish. They ain't going anywhere.
post #97 of 296
The 3D didn't enhance the experience for me at all, it was just a distraction, and part of the reason I had a relatively lousy time.
post #98 of 296
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Dude, it's a lake. They aren't going to grow exponentially and threaten the world.

They're fish. They ain't going anywhere.
Neither is the shark in JAWS, but you still had to blow it the fuck up to keep the audience happy.
post #99 of 296
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Dude, it's a lake. They aren't going to grow exponentially and threaten the world.
The point is not that they're going to escape, but that the movie clearly illustrates them as being in two distinctly different places: the spring break beach, and the middle of nowhere. Blowing up the ones in the middle of nowhere doesn't make the other ones go away. It may not be something the movie is required to address but there's no way it isn't a massive dangling plot thread.
post #100 of 296
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The 3D didn't enhance the experience for me at all, it was just a distraction, and part of the reason I had a relatively lousy time.
I did really like the movie, but the 3D was crap.
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