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The new March issue of "Shivers"...a querie

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Okay, so the last issue of Shivers had a pretty in-depth story (with stills and all) of Beyond Re-Animator, easily eight months before the film is expected to see the light of day. Now the new issue is out with a March 2003 date on it and an extensive story on Jeepers 2, complete with 10 (!) stills.

Are there rules these folks have to follow about when to publicize certain films? I know that we, as a website covering horror films, are given access to screenings of films well in advance and are allowed to interview filmmakers weeks, sometimes months before films are released, and are then asked by the powers that be to contain our coverage until a certain time. Is Shivers not asked the same courtesy?

(By the way, the cover is a great still from Quatermass Xperiment with the headline "The Return of Quatermass"! It's the second half of a Nigel Kneale interview from last issue that's pretty damn cool...)

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Print magazines have embargos as well, but they're not usually the same as online, because they know we have longer lead-times.

But eight months in advance seems extreme. It could just be that studios still see print as "legitimate", and so don't realise the double standard. The general feeling seems to be that once you let something online, you lose control over it.
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Actually, interesting tid-bit about this Shivers issue (which I can no longer get since my local Borders discontinued their order for Shivers)...

The stills in the mag are the very same ones we saw as a so-called "exclusive" on another horror site (when all they did was scan the pics and put them on their site). There's a lot of spoilers in these pics.

Well, MGM was informed of these pics surfacing on the web and had the site PULL THEM. Shivers on the other hand...well, I don't know if they got a slap on the wrist or not from the studio, but Alan Jones (the one who penned the article) is mighty anxious to show the world that he is behind this film 100%.

Inspector - mind snagging me an issue? I'll pay ya when I get out there. I wanted to grab this issue 'cause I was around while Jones was doing all the coverage.
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Inspector - mind snagging me an issue? I'll pay ya when I get out there. I wanted to grab this issue 'cause I was around while Jones was doing all the coverage.
Consider it done.

Regarding the pics: yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Having seen the film, I was shocked at some of the stills and Shivers blatant disregard for "spoiler respect" by publishing them. (Like Dan W. said, 6 months early.)

I know Alan Jones is excited by the film (his review, not in the mag) is stellar. Who knows if he had any say over the stills-inclusion. But you would think, if he's so enamored with the film ("The best horror film of 2003") that he would be more protective of its secrets.
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Well, we're also talking about the same mag that ran an unauthorized piece on Bob Burns' Halloween Show.
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I remember that as well.

Dan, the UK has a horrible reputation on this side of the Atlantic for "concocting" news (that 9.5 times out of 10 isn't true) and publishing unauthorized photos pretty regularly. From your vantage point, how is this consistent disregard for journalistic "integrity" (not that there's much of it to be found here in the states) looked-upon over there?

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Not being massively familiar with the US mag scene, it's hard to say. There is a definite vibe of "if we can get it, we'll print it" that goes on with the UK press in general.

I suspect it's due to the smaller market size, coupled with the concentration on newsstand sales rather than subscriptions. In the US, the magazine market is subscription driven - they want you to sign up and get it through the mail. Because of this, newsstand sale in the US are a secondary concern - it just costs too much to send out thousands of mags and hope enough people pick them up. Publishing is a high-waste industry anyway.

In the UK, everything is decided on the shop floor. The person who walks into the newsagent and browses the shelves is the key customer - getting their attention, and getting them to buy you again next month, is the key factor. I guess this is why the UK press tends to be more lurid and showy - every single issue needs to make an impact and beat the competition month after month. This leads to some pretty nasty cutthroat competition between mags, and if fudging a feature or printing photos early gives them an advantage that month, then that's what they do.

The worst that they get is a slap on the wrists from the studios, but the sales figures are all that count. If that issue outsells the other guys, then a few snarky phone calls from some PR is water off a ducks back. Shivers probably do it because their sales are nothing like the big film mags like Empire or Total Film, or even Hotdog (which only sells about 20,000 copies), and if they have to break the rules to beat the big boys to the horror scoops, then that's what they do.

It sucks, but that's just the way it is over here.
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