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Instead of attempting to turn the latest news thread on Judge Dredd casting into another comic book Dredd love in I thought I'd make a thread.

2000AD was the comic I used to read as a kid, looking through the back issues my mother had collected over the years. I always loved the Judge Dredd strips and the idea of a monolithic, almost villainous, central character. Dredd is an odd character because he's not an anti-hero, but he's also not courageous.

To me Dredd is both awe inspiring and kind of terrifying. He's a totem of a truly horrifying society and his martial law ethos always made my young liberal heart grow a little cold, but like a character like Hans Landa Dredd is so good at his job, so dedicated, disciplined and skilled that he becomes almost awe inspiring.

I've recently started buying the CASE FILE reprints which compile an entire years worth of strips together. I'm about halfway through the first CASE FILE, representing the first Dredd strips from 1977 and it's fascinating watching the character form himself. Dredd is a very basic character in a lot of ways and what is interesting is watching the writers get used to that.

The first dozen strips seem to struggle to find a focus for Dredd turning him into a pastiche of 'gee whiz' action heroes from the British comic books of the 40s, 50s and 60s. But then the first 'arc' (the multi issue robo-rebellion led by Call-Me-Kenneth) comes around and the comic almost completely hits it's stride. The world feels fuller, the character of Dredd feels a lot closer to his iconic version, and the comic strip gains it's edge and it's sense of humour.

So, any other fans?
post #2 of 13
Spike Marshall, I am a...Huge, Judge Dredd fan. I read several trade paper backs over the years, and I think one of the best things about...Dredd, is whenever...Judge's Dredd and Anderson are working on a case together. I cannot wait for even...More, news on the new film. Someday, I would love to play a...Good, Judge Dredd video game. The last one I enjoyed was a...Commodore 64 title.
post #3 of 13
I really loved reading Judge Dredd when I was a kid. I don't remember which I was reading, a current version or reprints, because when I look back, I remember reading all the main storylines, especially Judge Death.

The main draw for me to Judge Dredd was Brian Bolland's artwork. I'm pretty sure I read Camelot 3000, and then shortly after found out about Dredd.



I could be wrong, that was about 30 years ago.

(Back in the CHUD Hero's/Villians Comic book draft, I did draft both Judges, Dredd and Death.)
post #4 of 13
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Bolland definitely drew the definitive Dredd. Whilst I love what McMahon and Ezquerra did in designing Mega City One and setting the style for the series, I always felt they drew Dredd as being too lithe and gentle. I prefer the brutish, thicker round the shoulders, style than Bolland epitomised.
post #5 of 13
Ive read Dredd in the megazine and 2000 AD quite abit recently, but i never got the chance to read more classic stories...untill a couple of weeks ago, when my father brought me a random "Complete Case Files" trade from a trip to the UK.
It was volume 11, with the main arc in being the "OZ" storyline...now i really need to hunt down those other 10 volumes.
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So what Dredd should I read? I'm curious because of the new movie and the Joker comment made in the the most recent article thread about it.
post #7 of 13
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So what Dredd should I read? I'm curious because of the new movie and the Joker comment made in the the most recent article thread about it.
I don't know exactly how the stories are published over there but these are the ones I think are most important, both for defining the characters and the setting.

The return of Rico. Besides maybe being the most personal of Dredd's stories it also gives some background to the whole Judge system.

Judge Death. The second most iconic Dredd character (the Joker mentioned in that other thread).

Block Mania. A great look at what type of a place Mega-City One is. And a prelude to the most epic of the storylines I mention...

Apocalypse War. Total war between Mega-City One and its eastern counterpart East-Meg One. It ends with about 1 billion casualties for both sides.
post #8 of 13
Yeah, Mills & Co. did a sweet job with those case files.
post #9 of 13
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So what Dredd should I read? I'm curious because of the new movie and the Joker comment made in the the most recent article thread about it.
Anything by John Wagner is usually good to excellent.

Of course, the real star of the JD universe is Mega City One, not JD himself (who is rather two dimensional). It's probably the greatest city in all of comics.

You could try the early to mid 80s stuff, if for no other reason than to understand why my generation of Brits is just that little bit twisted. Judge Death and it's sequel Judge Death Lives are superb, the sequel contained some of the greatest panels you'll ever see.
post #10 of 13
There are a ton of shorter stories and one-offs that I like. That's one of the reasons why it's good to get into those Casefiles.

But here are some of my favorite "Mega-Epics":

-The early Brian Bolland Judge Death stuff
-BLOCK MANIA
-The Apocalypse War
-All of the "Dredd loses his faith in the law" stuff that leads into NECROPOLIS (I think this was their first attempt to make Dredd more of a 3 dimensional character)
-America
-The Pit
-Origins
-Dredd vs. Aliens
post #11 of 13
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If you're thinking of getting the case files then you should be aware the first volume is one hell of a curates egg. Some great stories, some terrible stories. The second case file is essentially following two arcs. You've got the first foray into Cursed Earth which kind of works in setting up the more outlandish stuff in the series but is also kind of inert. In particular there's a four story mini-arc in the middle of it involving a dinosaur arc which looks terrible, worst art in Dredd, and is kind of meandering.

The second storyline is kind of awesome and is about a corrupt Head Judge taking over Mega City 1. But really you'd have no problem starting with the 3rd volume where most of the fun stuff happens.
post #12 of 13
I consider volumes 3-11 "Classic Dredd". I think 99% of the strips in those volumes are written by Wagner and Grant. The last story in Vol 11 ("Oz") marks the end of their writing partnership on Dredd.

I just started to read volume 15. John Wagner took a break after Necropolis and Garth Ennis was handed the reigns. Ennis has described his Dredd work as a "pale imitation of Wagner and Grant" and that's pretty much what it is so far. There's some good art by Steve Dillon, though.

They also start collecting MEGAZINE strips in Volume 15. I think all of the Megazine strips in Vol 15 are written by Alan Grant. The actual stories don't amount to much, but I've always thought Grant wrote the funniest, nastiest, and most absurd Dredd. While Wagner decided to soften Dredd up a little and make him more human Alan Grant has always portrayed Dredd as a completely uncompromising fascist. And that's where a lot of the humor in the strip comes from.
post #13 of 13

Dredd is my favorite comic, as you could imagine. And I for one freakin' love The Cursed Earth and Day The Law Died, absolutely essential stuff. Case Files Vol. 2 is so glorious, plus its also got great one-shots such as Punks Rule. And this is coming from a dude who just started reading it in like 2004 or so, it's stood the test of time big time.

 

Just got JD Megazine 305 in the mail today (and Savage Dragon 168), cool stuff, dig the hilarious Dredd strip with the various James Bond and Sean Connery spoofery.

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