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Sons of Anarchy: Season 3

post #1 of 378
9/7/10 at 10:57am
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Premieres tonight, join Samcro as they try and get Jax's son back from the eeeevil Irishman! What will Agent Stahl do this season to earn our wrath and if Opie has a chance, will the Outlaw show mercy once more? My bets on no.

Thank goodness this show's back!
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post #2 of 378
9/7/10 at 10:58am
Didn't know this was back tonight. Good, i've been missing a good show during the week.
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post #3 of 378
9/7/10 at 11:55am
I knew it started this week, but thanks to the wonders of DVR I don't even pay attention to premiere dates any more. I look forward to the inevitable return of zombie Henry Rollins.
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post #4 of 378
9/7/10 at 12:15pm
Thanks for the heads up!

Am I the only chewer who preferred Season one? Maybe I'm just weird.
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post #5 of 378
9/7/10 at 1:48pm
Season 1 had the stronger arc, Season 2 had the better character development.

Also, I didn't think it was possible, but Gemma Teller became an even more compelling character in Season 2.

This is pretty much the only first run show I follow with any sort of old time religion anymore. Cant wait.
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post #6 of 378
9/7/10 at 1:50pm
Rape will do that to you.
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post #7 of 378
9/7/10 at 11:52pm
"You almost cut the guy's joint off."

My god that was great.
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post #8 of 378
9/8/10 at 12:09am
Fuck, I did not see that ending coming.
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post #9 of 378
9/8/10 at 12:20am
Just chewed out my roommates for missing the episode. THAT ENDING, holy shit. That was some Scorsese-style insanity when Jax got his hands on that thug.
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post #10 of 378
9/8/10 at 12:25am
Bummer to see Hale go, but at least it means more Dayton Callie. Should have known that would be the case when Callie's name was in the intro this season.
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post #11 of 378
9/8/10 at 2:31am
Holy fuck, that ending.

I missed this show.
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post #12 of 378
9/8/10 at 2:41am
My roommate when Hale got Emil'd by the van: "Is he dead?"

(I stay quiet to not spoil anything; moments later a giant hole is shown in his head)

"Yes."
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post #13 of 378
9/8/10 at 3:41am
In no way is the Gemma and her father storyline going to be anything but tragic and brutally depressing.

And yet another Deadwood vet appears: Paula Malcolmson.
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post #14 of 378
9/8/10 at 3:52am
Strong episode but didn't blow me away. It might take a little while to get going but I'm sure I'll be biting my nails come season's end. I really hope Hale isn't dead, he's easily one of my favorites on the show.

And I know I wasn't the only one cheering when I saw Kenny Johnson return. I pray he becomes a regular.
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post #15 of 378
9/8/10 at 4:03am
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And yet another Deadwood vet appears: Paula Malcolmson.

Okay, I might have shouted "Trixie!" when I saw her.

I was worried about the season for some reason until that ending drove by. Holy hell that was awesome.

I especially loved how the cops just stepped back when Jax went to town on the shooter. I honestly expected a curb stomp at any moment.

That dementia storyline is going to have me in tears by season's end I guarantee.

Loved Tara ripping the nursery apart and then refusing to break up with Jax. That character has turned into a little mini Gemma of awesome.
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post #16 of 378
9/8/10 at 9:50am
Hale is one of my favorite characters, and it's a shame they did him in (assuming he is, and I do). He added a lot to the character of Charming and in rounding out Jax.

Good season starter.
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post #17 of 378
9/8/10 at 2:06pm
That's a nice start. Tara's transformation into Gemma 2.0 is complete. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up offing Stall by the end. Jacks is seriously losing it. Plus a drive by out of fucking nowhere. This season will turn out seriously bloody.
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post #18 of 378
9/8/10 at 3:36pm
I don't think Jax is losing it. I mean, he is in a terrible place, but who wouldn't be? Someone he knew only through his criminal associations in the club took his son (indirectly due to the "actions" of his mother). The amount of guilt he must be feeling would be overwhelming. Recall that his father's journals and Abel's birth were the catalyst for him to reexamine his relationship with the Club. He stuck with the club and it's activities, and how his son has been kidnapped. And the club is the only way to get his son back, realistically.

So he feels, putting it mildly, pretty fucked. But I don't think he is losing it. I think he might find clarity, when all is said and done.
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post #19 of 378
9/8/10 at 7:58pm
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Hale is one of my favorite characters, and it's a shame they did him in (assuming he is, and I do). He added a lot to the character of Charming and in rounding out Jax.

Good season starter.
Yeah he's gone. There was this sick sounding thump as the van was driving after it hit him. Plus the hole in the head.
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post #20 of 378
9/8/10 at 10:26pm
Fuck, hate that Hale is gone. He was one of the best characters of the show. A nice contrast to the evilness of the Samcro.

The ending was great. The rest of the episode? A little slow. Maybe a lot slow. Hoping for better things.

Kenny Johnson is in. That's great.
But fuck! Hale!
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post #21 of 378
9/9/10 at 12:11am
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Fuck, hate that Hale is gone. He was one of the best characters of the show. A nice contrast to the evilness of the Samcro.

The ending was great. The rest of the episode? A little slow. Maybe a lot slow. Hoping for better things.

Kenny Johnson is in. That's great.
But fuck! Hale!
I can deal with a slow beginning and middle if the ending is bananas like that.

Next week looks all the way bananas, though.
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post #22 of 378
9/9/10 at 12:46am
Was there a contract dispute with the actor playing Hale? If there wasn't, I don't get offing the character in such a dramatically unsatisfying way. It was a fun "holy shit" moment, but Hale getting no satisfying ending kind of sucks.

I guess Jacks took Clay's advice to heart.
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post #23 of 378
9/9/10 at 1:16am
When I began watching Sons of Anarchy, I remember feeling something best described as "the last time I had this kind of fun, it was watching Oz way back when", a feeling later confirmed, so to speak, when Kurt Sutter mentioned it as his favorite show. And I've been rewatching Oz recently and thinking something like the main difference is SoA doesn't seem to be into "let's kill a character because fuck becauses". And here we open with Hale.

Anyways, it did take me some time to get into the episode. I think this series would've benefitted from a rewatch before the premiere, since everything that happened in the story couple days ago seems like a distant memory to me. Great ending, though.
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post #24 of 378
9/9/10 at 3:07am
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I don't think Jax is losing it. I mean, he is in a terrible place, but who wouldn't be?
He did beat a man's head into a pulp on the asphalt in front of cops and half the town. He isn't going to go clinically insane but he's not in full control of himself. And he wasn't the type of guy that was reluctant to start a fight to begin with. I just think we're gonna be seeing him going off quite a lat this season.
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post #25 of 378
9/9/10 at 4:04am
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Was there a contract dispute with the actor playing Hale? If there wasn't, I don't get offing the character in such a dramatically unsatisfying way. It was a fun "holy shit" moment, but Hale getting no satisfying ending kind of sucks.
Apparently he wanted off the show.

http://blogs.sites.post-gazette.com/...narchy-shocker
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post #26 of 378
9/9/10 at 4:31am
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Thanks for that. Weird, the guy was the worst actor on the show. He should have ridden the gravy train as long as possible.
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post #27 of 378
9/9/10 at 5:54am
Great start. The only thing that didn't ring true was that 'you complete me' speech by Tara to Jax. I get what they were going for, but the dialogue was pretentious bollocks. Apart from that, all awesome.

At first I hated to see Hale go - and still do, kind of - but as Sutter said it will be interesting to see how Chier Unser deals with it. and who was behind the drive by? The Irish? Neo Nazis?

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post #28 of 378
9/9/10 at 11:25am
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Isn't that the same reason Half-Sack got killed off last season?
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post #29 of 378
9/9/10 at 2:08pm
Indeed. Why all these people are trying to jump off of a show that is only gaining more heat and popularity is a mystery to me, but I guess it provides some interesting drama for the show.
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post #30 of 378
9/9/10 at 2:37pm
I actually thought the guy who played Hale was decent. A real counter-balance to the lead characters on the show. He wasn't the best actor or anything, but I like how he played Hale, and I thought Hale was important.

Agree with Erik. People are picking a bad time to leave Anarchy.

It's not the best show on TV (or even FX, Justified might be a little better), but it certainly is a fun and compelling watch, and it's getting more popular (as evidence by the commercials up the ass that FX included with the premiere).
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post #31 of 378
9/9/10 at 10:02pm
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That sort of flies in the face with what the LA Times wrote:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/show...s-goodbye.html

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For an actor who loved his role and working on the top-rated series, Sheridan took his forced departure well. Creator and executive producer Kurt Sutter explained his plans to the actor well in advance of the script landing on his doorstep.

"It was quite a difficult secret to keep, but I think it was really a great warrior’s death for him," Sheridan said. "I think it’s very bold and very daring, and ordinarily in a series they don’t do that to characters that are so interwoven. It's artistically a pretty incredible choice, even though I would have loved to have done the show for longer."
Before the show started it seemed like the whole "Jax and Hale grew up together now they're on opposite sides of the law" dynamic was going to be a much bigger aspect of the show. Didn't really turn out that way.

My guess is that the writers, and the viewers for that matter, really liked the Unser character so they kept on delaying his departure to the point that they didn't want the character to step down at all. Hale dying is a pretty legit reason for Unser to stay at his post.
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post #32 of 378
9/9/10 at 10:05pm
Yeah, and Unser to change the relationship he had with the sons. He used to rely on Hale to do the right thing.
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post #33 of 378
9/9/10 at 10:24pm
That episode had one of the most hilarious character deaths I've ever seen! So out of the blue.

I'll side with the minotity desenting voice, I thought the episode was overall a dud. It felt like a comedown after the feverpitch finale cliffhanger.

The baby kidnapping was good for an "Ohh shit!" last season, but as an extended thread I fear it will bore.

I don't like the focus being taken away from the inner turmoil and conflict of the club.
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post #34 of 378
9/9/10 at 11:07pm
Ha, I guess the big C won't be taking Unser down anytime soon.
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post #35 of 378
9/10/10 at 12:59am
Just watched this and damn what an ending. This show can be so brutal I love it. I can't believe Hale is gone and they even had the balls to kill a kid. I can't wait for the rest of the season
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post #36 of 378
9/10/10 at 2:02am
Nice episode overall, and I like that they're going to bring some fresh blood into the charter. It does stack up in an oddly formulaic way with last year's premiere however, except that the tragedy that everyone is moping about is not as devastating (the kid's still alive, after all) or messy (everyone's on the same side with a clearly defined enemy to blame). And both end with a new enemy landing a horrific low blow on the Sons.

My biggest problem, which they will have to address very soon, is that given how they patched things up with Jimmy O, it seems like they should be able to resolve the baby situation with a couple phone calls. He definitely didn't seem the type to indulge Cameron's grief at the expense of his gun distribution. My guess is he finds out about Chibs' agreement with the ATF and decides to hold the kid back for spite/leverage to force SAMCRO to stay in line.
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post #37 of 378
9/10/10 at 3:50am
great opener. felt like a nice slow burn into BLAM!

didn't i read somewhere that the club is going to ireland to get the kid back?? i think that would be great, have the guys in a completely different local, having to stick together to survive...

can't wait to see whats next
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post #38 of 378
9/10/10 at 7:11am
I have a feeling Perlman will end up killing Unser to cover up some shit the club has done.
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post #39 of 378
9/10/10 at 11:42am
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I have a feeling Perlman will end up killing Unser to cover up some shit the club has done.
And then he has to deal with Gemma.
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post #40 of 378
9/10/10 at 12:11pm
It was a great season starter. Gemma stabbed a dude in the junk!

If the show has any balls whatsoever, they'll kill that kid before they give him back to Jax. I think this season needs to be the turn from Jax the idealist to Jax the hardened biker and the death of his son is just the catalyst. Look at his reaction to the hit and run as proof.

Very shocked about Hale's (probable) death. I could see his brother as filling the void as the anti-biker gang role. He wins the major position due to the grief vote and is the thorn in SAMCRo's side and forces the chief to try and uphold the law. Way to many feds in that town for the chief to have any real balls, it must be testicular cancer!
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post #41 of 378
9/10/10 at 6:03pm
The writers must be aware of the popularity of Lem as it appears we're going to be seeing more of Kenny Johnson. That's a good thing.

I agree the baby kidnapping arc needs to get resolved soon so that they can move on to more character development and interaction. Though based on the previews for the this season it appears it will withstand the S3.
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post #42 of 378
9/10/10 at 6:52pm
(really vague psuedospoilers, I guess)





I think I read that the Belfast arc is only for like 4-5 episodes? I'd imagine the baby storyline will be resolved one way or the other when they head back stateside.
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post #43 of 378
9/10/10 at 7:33pm
I think the real point of the Belfast arc is it explains a bit of how the club got into weapon smuggling and also how later the death of John Teller's son caused him to want to change the club, so I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the arc, Jax is more determined at changing the club, or if the end of the series will wind up being tragic-ish, perhaps the opposite.
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post #44 of 378
9/11/10 at 10:06am
All I got to see was about the last 15 minutes last night when I finally got home, but damn. I don't think they even need to really explain the drive by, just random assholes fucking with SAMCRO. But wow that beat down was brutal.

And Hale - shit that was a nasty way to go.
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post #45 of 378
9/11/10 at 3:50pm
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I don't think they even need to really explain the drive by, just random assholes fucking with SAMCRO.
The fuck? Your neighborhood must be terrifying.
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post #46 of 378
9/11/10 at 4:49pm
My wife does call this a reminder of her childhood. And we do live in NOLA.
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post #47 of 378
9/11/10 at 4:57pm
I know things have changed over the last couple of seasons, but isn't Charming supposed to be a fairly safe place?

SAMCRO kept meth out of their town after all. Isn't that type of shit not supposed to happen there?
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post #48 of 378
9/11/10 at 5:15pm
But isn't that part of the conflict that has been building on the show: for everything SAMCRO does to try and keep the bad out of Charming it keeps coming back in because of SAMCRO.
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post #49 of 378
9/11/10 at 6:10pm
Yeah, I was just thinking that it couldn't be truly random. But had to be at least somewhat related to what was going on.
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post #50 of 378
9/12/10 at 12:48pm
Finally watched the whole episode. I have to say, Hale going down is still just as brutal. I mean it is rough.

And Jax is much more reserved than I would be if someone took my son. Ireland would be fucking burning. Can't wait to see what the SOA is like in Ireland.
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