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post #1 of 26
9/7/10 at 12:31pm
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Since you guys are always so helpful I thought I'd seek your advice. I'm creating a Venn diagram (i.e., a series of two circles that progressively overlap) out of Office Shapes to investigate students' perceptions of similarity between two social groups. I would like to shade in the space where the two circles overlap but keep the remaining parts of the two circles color free. I figured out how to shade one circle and not the other, but can't seem to just get the area that overlaps. Is there a way to do this?
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post #2 of 26
9/7/10 at 12:48pm
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Since you guys are always so helpful I thought I'd seek your advice. I'm creating a Venn diagram (i.e., a series of two circles that progressively overlap) out of Office Shapes to investigate students' perceptions of similarity between two social groups. I would like to shade in the space where the two circles overlap but keep the remaining parts of the two circles color free. I figured out how to shade one circle and not the other, but can't seem to just get the area that overlaps. Is there a way to do this?
Dunno about word, but if it's available Visio is a much better tool for that. Are you using a university computer? It might be available.
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post #3 of 26
9/7/10 at 12:50pm
Not exactly what you are looking for...

http://code.google.com/apis/chart/
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...34e8fe06&hl=en
http://code.google.com/apis/chart/do...nn_charts.html
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post #4 of 26
9/7/10 at 12:54pm
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Thanks Feral. I'm going to play around with the Google Chart Tools, though it looks a little over my head.
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post #5 of 26
9/7/10 at 1:04pm
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Google charts are for websites, so not useful for what I'm doing. Thanks anyway.

My school does not have Visio.
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post #6 of 26
9/7/10 at 1:08pm
You could always toss something together in Paint and paste it in.
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post #7 of 26
9/7/10 at 1:13pm
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Google charts are for websites, so not useful for what I'm doing. Thanks anyway.

My school does not have Visio.
This is for Word 2007. Go to the Insert ribbon and click the Smart Art icon. In the dialog window that opens there's a variety of images you can choose including a Venn diagram. After choosing it a bunch of new options open, choosing color, labeling the sections etc. I don't know if you can get it exactly as you like but it should be pretty close.
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post #8 of 26
9/7/10 at 1:29pm
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Richard, I know nothing about paint.

Stelio, that's basically what I'm doing (though I did not see an option for a premade Venn). I used shapes to create two circles. The fill only works for the full circle though. So what I ended up doing is having one circle a color and another a pattern so the overlapped portion especially popped out.

ETA: I found the premade Venns. Wish I'd known about this an hour ago. Thanks for the tip. I'm sure I'll use them again in the future.

ETA2: I can't figure out how to increase or decrease the amount of overlap in the premade Venn's. I need a series of two circles that go from no overlap to completely overlapping.
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post #9 of 26
9/7/10 at 1:31pm
NVM. Misread original post.
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post #10 of 26
9/7/10 at 1:39pm
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Stelio, that's basically what I'm doing ...
Off topic but I have to ask. Did you omit the final s from my name by accident or did you somehow know that this is the proper way to call someone by his name in Greek?
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post #11 of 26
9/7/10 at 1:47pm
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Didn't do it purposely, but I'm awesome so my brain just knew.
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post #12 of 26
9/7/10 at 1:50pm
Change the background color of a circle in your Venn diagram

1. Click the SmartArt graphic you want to change.
2. Right-click the border of a circle, and then click Format Shape.
3. Click Fill, and then click Solid fill.
4. Click Color Button image, and then click the color that you want.

2010 gives me an option for "Gradient Fill", choose that instead of "Solid Fill", "Type=Radial", "Direction" should correspond to the section in the overlap, then fiddle around with the gradient stops until you reach the desired section only filled with color.

Not easy but should accomplish what you are trying to do.

I've got one open here with two circles on top and one circle on the bottom and my stops for the upper left circle are:

Stop 1, Position= 10%
Stop 2, Position= 26%
Stop 3, Position= 39%

and I have a circle devoid of color except at the overlap. Those positions were absolute random clicks on that sliding scale just so you know.

And again this is in 2010, not sure if you will have these options fully available.

*EDIT* Overlap is a function of clicking the circle you want to move so it has a solid bordered square and using the arrow keys to change it's location.
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post #13 of 26
9/7/10 at 2:51pm
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Just got back from lunch to this wonderful post. I'll try fiddling around with it now.
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post #14 of 26
9/7/10 at 2:56pm
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Just got back from lunch to this wonderful post. I'll try fiddling around with it now.
Try this: THIS

I've been using it recently, and it's cool. I am certain it could help you with coloring circles ETC
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post #15 of 26
9/7/10 at 3:17pm
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Sorry TzuDohNihm. Even with your awesome directions, I am incapable of figuring that out. I got lost once I hit the "Stop" section. Thanks though.
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post #16 of 26
9/7/10 at 3:28pm
Diva, when do you need it by? I might be able to whip something up a little later.
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post #17 of 26
9/7/10 at 3:45pm
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Just got back from lunch to this wonderful post. I'll try fiddling around with it now.
I thought google docs had a preform with it, my bad.
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post #18 of 26
9/7/10 at 4:45pm
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Diva, when do you need it by? I might be able to whip something up a little later.
Friday-ish. The sooner the better, but the survey it will be part of needs to go live by the end of the week. IF this is truly not going to take up that much time, it'd be cool if you could put something together. But given the advice already in here, I've created something I can live with although its not ideal.

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I thought google docs had a preform with it, my bad.
I think you can download the chart once you are done, but the chart wizard made no sense to me. It was not intuitive at all.
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post #19 of 26
9/7/10 at 4:53pm
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Sorry TzuDohNihm. Even with your awesome directions, I am incapable of figuring that out. I got lost once I hit the "Stop" section. Thanks though.
No problem.

The stops refer to the sliding bar at the bottom of the options section. It was a long bar and had three arrows on it by default. If you grab them and move them you change the area that is colored like pulling a lasso smaller.

If someone can tell me how to do a scren grab and upload it I can later tonight.
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post #20 of 26
9/7/10 at 5:05pm
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I figured out the sliding bar. I just didn't understand the multiple stops. But I know much more now than I did this morning. Honestly, thanks everyone.
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post #21 of 26
9/7/10 at 5:08pm
How about this?



ETA: Took me about five minutes so if you need something, let me know.
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post #22 of 26
9/7/10 at 5:14pm
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How about this?



ETA: Took me about five minutes so if you need something, let me know.
Showoff.
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post #23 of 26
9/7/10 at 5:41pm
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Showoff.
For my next trick, I'll stimulate aggregate demand...
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post #24 of 26
9/7/10 at 8:51pm
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How about this?



ETA: Took me about five minutes so if you need something, let me know.
Total show off! I would only need two circles, text where 1 and 3 are, and the part where they overlap (text 2/4) to be really noticeable because its the part I need people to focus on. But thanks anyway, I figured it mostly out. I just needed to play around with shit some more.

I ended up using the SmartArt Venn template, choosing really bright colors (yellow and red) so the overlap part is bright orange. Then created seven pairs of circles - ranging from no overlap to complete overlap - so that people had a range of options to indicate how much the two groups were similar (the orange part).

This SmartArt thing will be very useful when its time to display my study results. I'm always doing lame bar graphs. But this tool give me way more options.
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post #25 of 26
9/8/10 at 4:23pm
I would just make the images slightly transparent so the overlap causes a new color.
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post #26 of 26
9/8/10 at 5:32pm
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That's exactly what I did Sairus!
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