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Christologies are the studies of the life of Jesus Christ in an attempt to uncover who he was and what he taught, as well as the influence of certain narratives.


Currently reading Margaret Starbird's "Woman with the Alabaster Jar," which advocates for the idea that Jesus and Mary Magdalene (the sister of Lazarus) were in fact husband and wife, representing a union between the Judean tribe and the Benjamite tribe of Israel, the two branches of royalty. In addition, certain actions, such as anointing with expensive perfume and washing of the feet with hair indicate the sacred bridegroom/priestesswife referenced in Solomon's "Song of Songs" and the prophecies of Micah.

It's part reclaiming the lost feminine of gnostic Christianity despite the Catholic Church's effort to de-emphasize the Magdalen by calling her a prostitute and emphasizing the sterile virginity of Mary, mother of Jesus. She eventually ties it all in with the Holy-Grail-As-Bloodline theory. In fact, this was one of the two sources used in Dan Brown's DaVinci Code, though it did not receive as much attention as the "Holy Blood..." book, which was proven a hoax of sorts. A professor of mine claims that this is so because her assumptions are supported by text - the same reason the Catholic Church has yet to excommunicate Starbird, because it would draw too much attention to her book.

That being said, it is an excellent read and a surprisingly thorough analysis of the evidence that supports the idea of Jesus as a married man, and the significance of this marriage.

I'll also be reading "When Jesus Became God: The Controversy That Split Christianity During the Last Days of Rome" and "Lost Christianities: The Battle for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew."

I've heard references made to Jesus as shaman, as well as the theory that he traveled East and achieved some measure of enlightenment as reason for his philosophies and miracles.

Whether religious or no, we cannot deny this man had a major impact on Western Civilization. So who do you think he is? What do you think he was?
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So waaay back in college I spent a summer working in my college library. It happened to be the same year the Da Vinci Code came out. I read it and then took advantage of the fact that my school also housed a very large and respected divinity library. I actually got to read a load of the sources Dan Brown cites. It's been like seven years since then and my memory is a little hazy but I'm game for the discussion.

The Holy Grail is an invention created during the very tumultuous 1100s. Attempting to root it in reality is just as silly as attempting to find the real Lancelot in Arthur's court. So that's straight up bunk.

But the idea of Jesus having a wife? Very legitimate and realistic. It was in fact a fairly common belief until the third century. The council at Nicaea is where it's generally believed that this belief was actively quashed. That's because this was where the foundations of the organized aspect of Christianity took root.

But you have to be very wary of gnosticism and it's gospels and books. These gospels weren't written at the time of Jesus. Granted the canonical gospels weren't either, but at least the Gospel of Mark was written at a point when there were still people who actually physically knew the dude.

Personally I find the politics behind the books and what's classified as apocryphal, gnostic or canon to be much more fascinating. Jesus was a smart and enlightened dude by all accounts, but the men (and women) who came after him are who shaped the Christian faith.

The secret life of Jesus is cool and all but the real life of Paul is so much more awesome. Now THERE was a dude who gets his words twisted around a lot.
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Personally I find the politics behind the books and what's classified as apocryphal, gnostic or canon to be much more fascinating. Jesus was a smart and enlightened dude by all accounts, but the men (and women) who came after him are who shaped the Christian faith.
Oh, you should watch this, then:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...tm_source=grid

Totally agreed on the politics angle. You have to remember that this was a slew of cultures referencing each other and older cultures in deep-nested ways that would make a dream architect weep. Phrases that modern Western eyes glance over had much more importance back then. Furthermore, these books were distributed as much as marketing as well as expressions of belief. These sects wanted followers; how they got those followers and interacted with the majority culture makes for very interesting studying.
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But the idea of Jesus having a wife? Very legitimate and realistic. It was in fact a fairly common belief until the third century.
What's the textual evidence for that?
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Jeeze I suck at responding to things in a timely fashion. I blame the Nook that just came in the mail.

And honestly I can't remember which books I read it in though if I went to that old college library I'm sure I could find them.

I remember it being tied to the exclusion of women from the Apostolic succession and the rejection of gnosticism.

I'll need to poke around the internet to find the books.
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Well, I'm not necessarily looking for the books, I'm looking for their source texts. I've done quite a bit of reading of the source texts of the Early Church period, but what I've read wouldn't support the notion that Jesus had a wife was a particularly popular one. I'm curious as to whether there are period sources that I've overlooked that suggest something to the contrary.

Though, I suppose, if you could point me to the books in which you encountered this idea, I could trace it back.
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