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post #1 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:47pm
Thread Starter 
between publicly making fun of a kid with Downs Syndrome on Facebook (or at the least, getting a really big kick out of the kid's karaoke videos), and laughing at videos of black people eating fried chicken and watermelon?


I just find it funny when people vehemently abhor anything with a whiff of racism, but can't wait to join in the fucking dogpile laughing at someone born with a lesser intellectual capacity than those of us "gifted" folk.

Sad.
post #2 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:48pm
What? Both crowds suck equally.
post #3 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:49pm
Yeah, can't say there is a difference. Unless it's a Vampire with Downs Syndrome of course.
post #4 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:53pm
Has this been provoked by any specific incident? Because I'm with Jake and Ken here - both groups are assholes.
post #5 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:53pm
Well, one is laughing at people because they are taking part in an action that is stereotypical of their culture. The other is laughing at someone for failing to perform a task competently. They are not analogous (unless "terrible at karaoke" is stereotypical of people with Downs Syndrome).

That is not to say I support either one, both are cruel and hurtful. Just saying they are different
post #6 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:53pm
Anyone claiming to be a vampire prolly has Downs Syndrome.
post #7 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:53pm
NVM
post #8 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post
between publicly making fun of a kid with Downs Syndrome on Facebook (or at the least, getting a really big kick out of the kid's karaoke videos), and laughing at videos of black people eating fried chicken and watermelon?


I just find it funny when people vehemently abhor anything with a whiff of racism, but can't wait to join in the fucking dogpile laughing at someone born with a lesser intellectual capacity than those of us "gifted" folk.

Sad.
A) I do NOT have Down's Syndrome.

B) How'd my karaoke video's get online?
post #9 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:57pm
I blame Don Winslow.
post #10 of 103
9/14/10 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by Jake View Post
I blame Don Winslow.
I knew he was secretly plotting against me!
post #11 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:22pm
Oh, Joey!
post #12 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:23pm
Is this in reference to the videos Devin posted on Twitter/Facebook?
post #13 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:28pm
Yeah, people are still obsessing with Devin?
Grow up gents.
post #14 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
Is this in reference to the videos Devin posted on Twitter/Facebook?
I wasn't going to respond anymore to this, but in the interest of not being a passive aggressive tit hiding behind vaguely directed statements... yes. It's about those videos.

I just don't get it. Calling people retards on a forum is one thing. Some people get touchy about it and all, but hey, it's not like he was actually making fun of a legitimately handicapped person while doing it.

I have family with Downs, so needless to say it's an extremely touchy subject for me. Yet, it's one that I try to handle reasonably. I don't freak out everytime someone calls someone else a "retard" or describes an action/piece of art/etc. as "retarded."

And of course, everyone's different and some people just can't help laughing at the expense of a clearly mentally disabled person. Sadly, I have plenty of friends/acquaintances that engage in this.

But when that same person has been known to be so vigilant against one sort of hurtful humor/hate/etc., I just can't even process how they go from that... to the other.

Different strokes I suppose.
post #15 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Yeah, people are still obsessing with Devin?
Grow up gents.
Really? "Grow up?" It came across my facebook page, hard to ignore. I'm not the one laughing at the disabled. We all "know" him here, thus, I vented. Sue me.
post #16 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:32pm
But it's so funny when a certain someone post it!

Wow. I just watched that video... classy on his level I guess...
post #17 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:36pm
Seriously, Joey, there are still people that worship every precious offering Devin has, how dare you point out his Blatant cruel behavior against mentally handicapped people. If he had the balls to log back in, I'm sure his defense would be "That retard will never read my comments laughing at him and making fun of him. Besides, one time I had to wipe a guys ass, so it's ok."
post #18 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:39pm
What's it got to do with the boards? So he's being an asshole, send him an email or block him off your facebook.

I didn't watch the videos. I didn't find it funny. But you guys need a new hobby.
post #19 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:40pm
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Well honestly, I don't think it occurred to him.

Shit. Almost wish I wouldn't have started the thread, because happy trails, bygones and all that. That shit ("retard humor") is my kryptonite though.
post #20 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:42pm
I can't believe I had this fucker on my Facebook "friend" list. Out!
post #21 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:43pm
And Tati, you saying someone "obsesses" over devin is kind of ironic.
post #22 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:47pm
How so ?
post #23 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:48pm
Oh, we all had our "obsess over Devin" period. It's part of the process.
post #24 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:50pm
If you love him set him free. That's my philosophy. And Sting's.
post #25 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:51pm
I think it's hilarious when anyone who doesn't look just like me does ANYTHING.

Yeah, I can't go out in public anymore...
post #26 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
How so ?
Having a 180 degree personality switch on the boards because he thought you posted too many pictures and not enough about movies, maybe? Mind you, you're not alone, but the difference is tangible.

Now let's laugh at that retard a bit!
post #27 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:53pm
I actually masturbated to Devin's review of THE SOCIAL NETWORK just to see if it would make me feel anything. It didn't work, but at least I got to bust.
post #28 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:53pm
I actually started to watch more movies, and you know, grew up.
You think it's because Devin told me to? hahaha.

Martin, really, you need a new hobby.
post #29 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:53pm
In the comments section of his post:

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Originally Posted by some guy
I don't mean to be a buzzkill, but she clearly had Down Syndrome.
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Originally Posted by Devin
I don't know that it's clear that she has Down Syndrome at all. Although the internet has obviously robbed me of the ability to tell the difference between legitimately retarded people and YouTube superusers.
The video in question.
post #30 of 103
9/14/10 at 1:57pm
This place is starting to feel like one of those sitcoms where the lead actor has left the show but the show keeps going and they keep referencing them even though they are gone.
post #31 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB View Post
This place is starting to feel like one of those sitcoms where the lead actor has left the show but the show keeps going and they keep referencing them even though they are gone.
Yeah, and even more stupid is the fact that apparently, there are 2 sides. The anti fun team that only wants to talk about movies. And the super duper friends team that wants to just have fun and talk shit and post 3 pages of really really stupid jokes.

It's not like that at all, there can be movie talk and fun. This isn't Twilight Martin, I don't have a shirt that says Team Devin and you a shirt that says Team Fun.

I honestly stopped enjoying the mindless pages of "funny" and i enjoy a LOT more the movie talk. There are chat rooms, you guys all have each other in facebook, you've got Rob's boards that you all go and talk about your lunch and Devin and so on.

Learn to discern what's really adding something to the conversation and what's not. And for the love of god, stop posting about what Devin does or doesn't do.
post #32 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:05pm
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I actually started to watch more movies, and you know, grew up.
You think it's because Devin told me to? hahaha.

Martin, really, you need a new hobby.
Oddly enough, I'm not alone in thinking that, but hey, if you're happy in that reality, so be it!

And yes, you're my past, current and future hobby. What can I say, your semi-hidden attempts at validating your existence by having the approval of internet critics while struggling with weight issues is fascinating...
post #33 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:07pm
Come on, guys, this is getting mean. Plenty of room for everyone to coexist on the boards.
post #34 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:07pm
Damn. I've had relationships and actual real life friendships end and they didn't bother me as much as Devin seems to for some people. Let it go.
post #35 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
Come on, guys, this is getting mean. Plenty of room for everyone to coexist on the boards.
Fair, fair...
post #36 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:10pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Yeah, and even more stupid is the fact that apparently, there are 2 sides. The anti fun team that only wants to talk about movies. And the super duper friends team that wants to just have fun and talk shit and post 3 pages of really really stupid jokes.

It's not like that at all, there can be movie talk and fun. This isn't Twilight Martin, I don't have a shirt that says Team Devin and you a shirt that says Team Fun.
It does feel like the 'fun' side has won out. It seems like no one is posting about movies anymore. Which is a shame, because I always preferred the 'intellectual' Chud.

In regards to the issue itself. It occurs to me that most people give themselves 'passes' for abuse. Like if you're Jewish you can tell Jewish jokes. I think because Devin worked with people with mental health issues and disabilities he's decided that he's got the right to make those kind of jokes. He's earned it.
post #37 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:10pm
Lord, another of these threads. The ghost of Faraci looms too large in certain minds for it not to be some sort of psychosexual thing.
post #38 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by Martin S View Post
Oddly enough, I'm not alone in thinking that, but hey, if you're happy in that reality, so be it!

And yes, you're my past, current and future hobby. What can I say, your semi-hidden attempts at validating your existence by having the approval of internet critics while struggling with weight issues is fascinating...
You know me so well Martin. How did i never realize what i was doing!!
Would you and the band of brothers of fun forgive me?? Can i go talk about my lunch and Vneck sweaters now?? Please?

Dude, grow up.
post #39 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
Let it go.
Everybody keep quoting this until they get it.
post #40 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
I think because Devin worked with people with mental health issues and disabilities he's decided that he's got the right to make those kind of jokes.
That, plus his attitudes towards other prejudices are precisely why I was so surprised to see it come across my page.
post #41 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
I think because Devin worked with people with mental health issues and disabilities he's decided that he's got the right to make those kind of jokes. He's earned it.
Bullshit. My son has autism, that doesn't mean I've earned the bad taste to mock anyone else with it. By the by, I didn't know any of this before joey started the thread, and I don't give a fuck if it's Devin or a complete unknown. It just absolutely boils my blood when anyone has the audacity to mock mentally handicapped people, and I hope one day he gets the painful revenge owed him for it. Such a fucking cowardly piece of shit move. Fuck him, and fuck anyone who thinks he's funny doing it.
post #42 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Miller View Post
Bullshit. My son has autism, that doesn't mean I've earned the bad taste to mock anyone else with it. By the by, I didn't know any of this before joey started the thread, and I don't give a fuck if it's Devin or a complete unknown. It just absolutely boils my blood when anyone has the audacity to mock mentally handicapped people, and I hope one day he gets the painful revenge owed him for it. Such a fucking cowardly piece of shit move. Fuck him, and fuck anyone who thinks he's funny doing it.
Wasn't saying it's right, for obvious reasons, just speculating on a hypothesis.
post #43 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by Spike Marshall View Post
Wasn't saying it's right, for obvious reasons, just speculating on a hypothesis.
I know Spike, and I should clarify (and apologize to you), I'm not saying you're bullshit, I'm saying he's used that chickenshit excuse a thousand times on here before, and it's never held water.
post #44 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Yeah, and even more stupid is the fact that apparently, there are 2 sides. The anti fun team that only wants to talk about movies. And the super duper friends team that wants to just have fun and talk shit and post 3 pages of really really stupid jokes.

It's not like that at all, there can be movie talk and fun. This isn't Twilight Martin, I don't have a shirt that says Team Devin and you a shirt that says Team Fun.

I honestly stopped enjoying the mindless pages of "funny" and i enjoy a LOT more the movie talk. There are chat rooms, you guys all have each other in facebook, you've got Rob's boards that you all go and talk about your lunch and Devin and so on.

Learn to discern what's really adding something to the conversation and what's not. And for the love of god, stop posting about what Devin does or doesn't do.
Yes Tati, all the other boards have meaningless conversations but here... It's not about non-fun, or fun side, or movie talk or non-movie talk, it's about general attitude, and now it's slowly getting back to where it was years ago, which is more relaxed and less bitchy.
post #45 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:29pm
Is it insensitive to mock people with Aspergers, or OCD or hoarders? Because these people have legitimate disabilities, and I often mock them. This isn't a joke post, I'm honestly interested to where the line in the sand that makes you an asshole is drawn.
post #46 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB View Post
Is it insensitive to mock people with Aspergers, or OCD or hoarders? Because these people have legitimate disabilities, and I often mock them. This isn't a joke post, I'm honestly interested to where the line in the sand that makes you an asshole is drawn.
I'm pretty sure you'd be an asshole even if you didn't mock disabled people.
post #47 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:32pm
Kind of shitty. I mean, think about it, why are making fun of them? What do you gain about mocking their challenges?
post #48 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:36pm
Anybody see anything good this weekend? I watched Edge of Darkness, not great but not helped by Gibson's personal messes. He's kind of hard to watch now. A shame. (Road Warrior remains untouched by the NuMel stank.)

I rewatched half of Mikey and Nicky, but it was after 14 hours of work and I fell* asleep halfway through. It made me wonder if it was supposed to be set in Philly, or if it just filmed there, because they refer to "Broadway" and "14th Street" in some scenes, but Philly has neither - what would be called 14th Street in Philly is actually named Broad, so no 14th or Broadway. Weird.

Animal Kingdom stuck Air Supply in my head for a week. Fuck you, Rain Dog!

*Drank myself to
post #49 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:37pm
Thread Starter 
The line is here: can they help it?
post #50 of 103
9/14/10 at 2:53pm
Good to know. From now on I'll save my mockery for rape victims.
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