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post #1 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:01pm
Thread Starter 
Now that we have a group of committed mods on the boards, it might be a good idea for us to emulate what another board I frequent does. They have what they call a "Trouble Ticket" forum. In this forum the moderators post as individual threads any suspensions or bannings they mete out, including who, why, how long, and usually a link to the offending post. Discussion is allowed so long as it stays focused on the offending post and the action taken. This forum is also used for name change requests, thread closing/merging/deleting requests, and pretty much anything a mod would be asked to do.

Why is it a good idea? Because it keeps all the board admin crap out of the main forums. It's only visible to registered members, so visitors don't get to see all the dirty laundry. It offers some transparency to the mod process, while at the same time clearly showing examples of what's acceptable and what's not. And it actually leads to some good discussion of board behavior and philosophy, and has sometimes led to the mods reconsidering their actions and lifting bans or shortening suspensions in light of these discussions.

This other message board is built on the same vBulletin engine ours is, so I don't think it would be too hard to implement. I'm not going to fight to the death for this if no one likes it, but I thought it was something worth mentioning.
post #2 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:04pm
We already have a Trolls thread and a Name Change Request thread. This kinda feels like reinventing the wheel, though I agree with the idea of having everything centralized. I'm not sure about the transparency thing, though, because the entire moderator gig is honestly sort of boring regardless of the messageboard, and it's not like we've all suddenly gone power-mad and are inserting ASCII dicks into random posts like I should have been doing from the start.
post #3 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:06pm
Yeah, actually we are trying to be as invisible as possible. The best job we can do is not being noticed at all. In fact, forget we are mods. Because quite frankly, except Trevor and Eilleen who can ban, there ain't that much we can do!
post #4 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:12pm
Thread Starter 
Well, I didn't mean "transparency" as in "watch 'em or they'll screw us." I just remember seeing posts like "______ got banned? What happened?" This way, we'd know without intruding the discussion into an existing thread.
post #5 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:14pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Yeah, actually we are trying to be as invisible as possible. The best job we can do is not being noticed at all. In fact, forget we are mods.
Ha fucking ha.
post #6 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:21pm
You're not fat Cassidy, so you're safe.
post #7 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:23pm
Are you guys really going to go into every thread that i post in and just derail it by attacking me? Take a look at the past couple of days. You are the ones going after my posts, not the other way around. Why don't you try to not pay attention and move on?
post #8 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:28pm
You stand for justice now Tati, villians will haunt you and try to bring you down.
post #9 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:28pm
A) That was my first post about the new mods.
B) It's a thread about board moderation, so my post was not a derail.
C) You and Ripoll have been as transparent as a lead wall.
post #10 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:30pm
Really? what have we done behind the public's eye?
post #11 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:30pm
CHUD,
post #12 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:31pm
Jesus...

Okay, part of the issue that happened last time with The Guy Who Left was that he would never admit to having made a mistake in his day-to-day issues with the boards. Let's not do that again. Tati, you were kind of a killjoy for the first little while you were a mod. Admit that you were taking it way too seriously and move on.

The rest of you give Tati, and the rest of us, some space to figure out how to do this job. We'll make mistakes but as long as we admit to them and figure out how not to do it again in the future don't rub our face in those mistakes.

I admit to finding lots of the comments funny but that doesn't make them right.
post #13 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:33pm
Thread Starter 
The suggestion's been made and considered. Let's just close this thread before it turns into a dogpile on the mods, which was NOT my intent.
post #14 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:36pm
Killjoy? I support being funny in threads and making jokes maintaining it on topic while doing so. I don't support a thread that's just a chat and people randomly posting bad jokes.

And i have a feeling that since devin left, all the people that were against him just wanted to come back firing all cylinders as a way to fuck with him or his past policies. I think a little measure on both sides is welcome.

No, this won't be as tight as when Devin was here. But we don't want this to be stupid land.

I seriously reach out to you guys and ask you to stop calling me out on every thread (martin, really grow up), and i will not interfere with your "fun".

Give it a few weeks and let's all try to enjoy the boards together.
post #15 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:36pm
And, hopefully, we can all get out of the practice of starting threads that warrant being closed, because the idea of locking all these fucking threads bugs me. That goes for everybody, mods included. I'm not here to be anyone's daddy (unless they ask me to do so during sex, and even then that's pretty creepy but I'll roll with it if I'm getting laid).

Just give us a little room. We're still working this shit out as much as y'all are.

ETA: It's not really turning into "Stupid Land". Let's not get trigger-happy here, guys. A few threads doesn't exactly constitute a retarded anarchic overthrowing of the boards.

ETAETA: Sorry for saying "retarded", y'all.
post #16 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Killjoy? I support being funny in threads and making jokes maintaining it on topic while doing so. I don't support a thread that's just a chat and people randomly posting bad jokes.

And i have a feeling that since devin left, all the people that were against him just wanted to come back firing all cylinders as a way to fuck with him or his past policies. I think a little measure on both sides is welcome.

No, this won't be as tight as when Devin was here. But we don't want this to be stupid land.

I seriously reach out to you guys and ask you to stop calling me out on every thread (martin, really grow up), and i will not interfere with your "fun".

Give it a few weeks and let's all try to enjoy the boards together.
This post is my whole point about being a killjoy, Tati. It's "I, I, I, I". You're a mod but your job isn't to make this board in to your image of what it should be. Nick wanted a looser more fun board. Let the users find that combination of fun plus film discussion. We just moderate people being dicks, we get rid of spam bots and kill NSFW photos.

I mean, holy Christ, Phil has done a great job of keeping threads on topic with gentle manipulation not a huge fucking hammer.
post #17 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by Ryan S~ View Post
You're a mod but your job isn't to make this board in to your image of what it should be. Nick wanted a looser more fun board. Let the users find that combination of fun plus film discussion. We just moderate people being dicks, we get rid of spam bots and kill NSFW photos.

I mean, holy Christ, Phil has done a great job of keeping threads on topic with gentle manipulation not a huge fucking hammer.
Yep. And this goes for all of us, until the voices on high tell us/me/whoever otherwise. I'm trying to be absolutely more than fair, because I've modded on several boards before and trying to wrangle discussion to where YOU WANT IT TO GO is literally a bigger pain in the ass than trying to bone a greased eel.

Trust me, I tried the eel thing.

Shut up, I was desperate.

EDIT: In the words of Conan O' Brien: "Be cool, my babies." We can be cool. I got faith in y'all. Let's not overthink shit, let's not try to be the iron fist of CHUD, all of that. I'm still the same boarder I was two weeks ago, I just now get the privilege of deleting threads, lording my ego over errbody else, and EDITING ASCII DICKS INTO EVERYONE'S POSTS I'M DRUNK WITH POWER AGAIN.

8===>
post #18 of 21
9/15/10 at 12:51pm
We discuss all major moderation. We have a Mod Forum for that - there was a hiccup initially where our new dudes weren't able to access that forum, so a lot of things were discussed out in the open - that's fixed now. If someone was banned, then all we'd ask of the regular readers is to accept that there was a reason and leave it be. If you're curious, then feel free to shoot one of the Mods or Admins a PM and ask - there's no reason to start entire threads asking why someone isn't here anymore. And if you don't agree with someone's banning? Well, sorry. It's not your call.

As to everything else Dickson mentioned initially - we do all of that anyway.

If you have a problem with a moderator then either a) talk to Eileen/Nick/Me about it or b) ignore it and leave it alone. Nobody's running around locking threads that get on their nerves, nobody's editing or deleting posts - just relax a bit.
post #19 of 21
9/15/10 at 1:01pm
Jake and Ryan (and DJ Dylan and Trevor and everyone else) we get that you are adjusting to the position and frankly, you've been doing fine.

My issue are mods asking to posters "get on topic" because the thread has taken a mild shift or locking a thread of dumb jokes. That just seems heavy-handed. On these boards, I've seen more moderation in the past three weeks than the past three years.
post #20 of 21
9/15/10 at 1:06pm
I absolutely agree with that last paragraph, and it's been addressed by both Ryan and myself elsewhere.
post #21 of 21
9/15/10 at 1:07pm
I'm going to close this thread now, Richard asked for it to be closed a couple posts up.
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