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That poor NFL reporter

post #1 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:14pm
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I still haven't heard what, exactly was said to her other than "hoots and hollers," but my god... if you go into an NFL locker room looking like that... what, exactly is SUPPOSED to happen? Not exactly "professional" reporter attire. More like "is she actually a hired stripper posing as a reporter?" attire.
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post #2 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:20pm
Yeah, wearing a T-Shirt and Jeans! She was asking for it!
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post #3 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post

I still haven't heard what, exactly was said to her other than "hoots and hollers," but my god...
I remember the good old days when "hoots and hollers" was a good thing.
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post #4 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:23pm
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Yeah, wearing a T-Shirt and Jeans! She was asking for it!
Wow, only one post for that response. Seriously, that's not "just" t-shirt and jeans. And it's not like she was touched/raped.

I don't know what was said, so I suppose there's a chance something was over the line in there, but seeing as how she's press, I doubt it.

The "don't you dare suggest she was asking for it" is always valid in terms of assault. Here... not so much.
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post #5 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:29pm
Bill Simmons wrote about this in the opening of his column today:

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Did we really learn anything?

Women should dress and act professionally if they want to be taken seriously as sports journalists? We knew that already.

Professional football players have the capacity to become hooting construction workers while in the presence of someone clearly striving to be a sex symbol and not a reporter? We knew that already, too.

Translation: We learned nothing. That didn't stop some from making it seem like we DID learn something -- for every measured, thoughtful piece from writers like Ashley Fox and Jemele Hill -- there was someone turning InesGate into Lisa Olson, The Sequel. As Fox wrote, "If you're going to dress like you're going to a bar, then guess what? You might get treated like you're at a bar." Blame both sides, don't make it into something bigger than it was and don't say you learned anything. Because you didn't.
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post #6 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post
I still haven't heard what, exactly was said to her other than "hoots and hollers," but my god... if you go into an NFL locker room looking like that... what, exactly is SUPPOSED to happen?
I need to know what "hoots and hollers" constitutes.....
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post #7 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:35pm
So I guess women at the beach in bikinis are fair game now. I mean, look at them!
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post #8 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:40pm
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So I guess women at the beach in bikinis are fair game now. I mean, look at them!
Yeah, I guess it's too much to expect grown-ass men to act like the adults they should be....so we have to go with what we can control.
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post #9 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:44pm
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Wow, only one post for that response. Seriously, that's not "just" t-shirt and jeans. And it's not like she was touched/raped.

I don't know what was said, so I suppose there's a chance something was over the line in there, but seeing as how she's press, I doubt it.

The "don't you dare suggest she was asking for it" is always valid in terms of assault. Here... not so much.
You are such an astonishing asshole.
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post #10 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:46pm
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Bill Simmons wrote about this in the opening of his column today:
Was just about to post that.


It goes without saying that the players could've conducted themselves better. They are neanderthals however, and are paid for it. What's so shocking? Sure, you can expect them to act more civilized.

I can also expect Rush Limbaugh to exercise responsibility.
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post #11 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:46pm
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You are such an astonishing asshole.
And you're apparently an astonishingly uptight bore. What's new?
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post #12 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:46pm
If it was "hoots and holars" like orangutan vocalizations, just meaningless noise essentially, then that's one thing. If untoward ideas were expressed verbally.. that's another. I know that everyone is supposed to excuse that kind of behavior because the men involved are "just football players", but IMHO those players and their teams benefit from public dollars in the form of stadium tax breaks ETC and as such are accountable to a higher standard. "Just football players?" If a janitor or secretary acted like that in the work place, they'd be fired. They are just as essential to our society -- if not more so -- as sport stars and yet time and time again it's the athletes who think they are above the law. Despite making tens of millions of dollars and gaining the admiration of total strangers, these "professionals" choose to act as if they're engaged in a perpetual rowdy-dow. This is an ongoing and troubling trend with athletes, and the attitude that such lewd behavior is permissible from people in their line of employment has often lead to tragic results.
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post #13 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:47pm
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So I guess women at the beach in bikinis are fair game now. I mean, look at them!
I didn't know the beach was a business, where 99.99% of people were fully clothed.

You're missing the point. Would you be defending her, if she she went around topless? If you simply google her name, you will see her outfits were not simply "jeans and t-shirts". Many of her outfits left nothing to the imagination, and were worn to garner attention, which she got, may not have been the attention she wanted, but that's what happens when you dress like that. If a guy wore a speedo into a WNBA locker room, and then said "those women were harrassing me", what would be the reaction to that? I really doubt any of the defenders in her case, would come to his defense.
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post #14 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:48pm
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You are such an astonishing asshole.
why because he's not taking the popular uber-liberal stance on something here on the boards? Man, yeah, he is a dick
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post #15 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:49pm
So if a woman goes to a night club in a low-cut dress because she wants to attract guys and one of them gropes her outside the bathroom, we're gonna tell her, "Hey, you went there to show off you body, what did you expect?"
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post #16 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:49pm
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why because he's not taking the popular uber-liberal stance on something here on the boards? Man, yeah, he is a dick
Go pee in a jar or tear your bicep or hide porn from your wife or something else that you probably made up.
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post #17 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:49pm
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So if a woman goes to a night club in a low-cut dress because she wants to attract guys and one of them gropes her outside the bathroom, we're gonna tell her, "Hey, you went there to show off you body, what did you expect?"
Dickson, what the hell? Since when are words equal to groping? Or am I missing the part of the story where she was groped?
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post #18 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:51pm
NickP, she DIDN'T go in there topless. That's a ridiculous point to make.

Like my post above, just because you're asking for a certain kind of attention doesn't mean you deserve any kind of attention you get.

Even if you think she's setting low standards for herself, the players are no way obliged to lower themselves to meet them.
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post #19 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:53pm
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And you're apparently an astonishingly uptight bore. What's new?
The concept that a woman doing her job in fairly normal attire for that job should consider not getting raped a pretty good day?
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post #20 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:54pm
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But when I invent a totally different set of circumstances in my head, you people are hypothetically as upset! Fucking hypocrites!
Seriously, dude.
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post #21 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:54pm
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Even if you think she's setting low standards for herself, the players are no way obliged to lower themselves to meet them.
Of course not. It's more about the "surprise" and shocked tone of some of the reports/reactions I've heard.

Also, it's about pointing out that sometimes, yes, people are asking for it. I get so sick of the overly PC "don't you DARE insinuate that!" reaction some people have. There are subtleties to every situation, and I think this one is one the other side of the pinball machine.
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post #22 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:55pm
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If it was "hoots and holars" like orangutan vocalizations, just meaningless noise essentially, then that's one thing. If untoward ideas were expressed verbally.. that's another. I know that everyone is supposed to excuse that kind of behavior because the men involved are "just football players", but IMHO those players and their teams benefit from public dollars in the form of stadium tax breaks ETC and as such are accountable to a higher standard. "Just football players?" If a janitor or secretary acted like that in the work place, they'd be fired. They are just as essential to our society -- if not more so -- as sport stars and yet time and time again it's the athletes who think they are above the law. Despite making tens of millions of dollars and gaining the admiration of total strangers, these "professionals" choose to act as if they're engaged in a perpetual rowdy-dow. This is an ongoing and troubling trend with athletes, and the attitude that such lewd behavior is permissible from people in their line of employment has often lead to tragic results.
So, when you are watching the incredibly violent, and barbaric game of football, you are yelling "Politely ask that gent if he would take a knee"? Everyone who likes football, wants these men, to be as animalistic as possible. They want blood, they want frieght train style hits... these men are animals when they are on the field, they have to be, and we all want them to be. Now, said female reporter, reports on the animalistic nature of the game, she is in the mix of this, so to speak. Do you honestly expect that all these men, have the capacity to just "shut it off" because a women is around them? Or when they win a game, and she comes into their area, skantly clad while they are naked, to act proper 100% of the time?

Do I like that she got harrassed, no... but who the fuck are we kidding here, look at her pics... what did she expect, to be treated like thier grandma? You dress for the part.. you dress like a slut, be prepared to be treated like one... road goes both ways people...
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post #23 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:57pm
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The concept that a woman doing her job in fairly normal attire for that job should consider not getting raped a pretty good day?
how about someone taking responsibilty for their own actions?
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post #24 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:58pm
Holy Shit.
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post #25 of 371
9/17/10 at 4:59pm
Gee, the way some of you talk, it's amazing enough that we can get helmets on these creatures, as they are ripping at raw pieces of meat and gristle from their cages.
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post #26 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:00pm
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Seriously, dude.


yeah, dude, YEAH
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post #27 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by NickP View Post
Do I like that she got harrassed, no... but who the fuck are we kidding here, look at her pics... what did she expect, to be treated like thier grandma? You dress for the part.. you dress like a slut, be prepared to be treated like one... road goes both ways people...
Good fucking grief.

The way a person dresses in no way gives free reign to treat them however YOU like.
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post #28 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:01pm
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Gee, the way some of you talk, it's amazing enough that we can get helmets on these creatures, as they are ripping at raw pieces of meat and gristle from their cages.
I take it you've never been to a live training camp practice.. go to one, then you can talk.
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post #29 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:01pm
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I take it you've never been to a live training camp practice.. go to one, then you can talk.
I've been to several, and you're full of shit.
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post #30 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
Good fucking grief.

The way a person dresses in no way gives free reign to treat them however YOU like.
free reign, she got what she wanted. Stop kidding yourself, and come to the real world.
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post #31 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:03pm
I think the dumb guys shouldn't have acted dumb around the dumb lady, but this isn't worth getting worked up about. I've seen more egregious sexual harassment during episodes of Entourage.
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post #32 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:03pm
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I've been to several, and you're full of shit.
you're full of shit. I've seen all out brawls during them. But maybe your team has tea and krumpets afterwards?
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post #33 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:04pm
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how about someone taking responsibilty for their own actions?
haha....amazingly dense. People like you are what happened to Erin Andrews.

So we know for the future, which of the following whores are asking for it?







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post #34 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:06pm
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haha....amazingly dense. People like you are what happened to Erin Andrews.
?
Seriously man, shut the hell up, that is the most moronic thing I've read in a while. How does anything at all to what we are talking about equate to Erin Adrews getting video taped naked in her hotel room? Seriously man? Slap yourself for that shit.
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post #35 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:07pm
The LD, heroic defender of chivalry for all the ladies of this great nation.
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post #36 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:07pm
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I think the dumb guys shouldn't have acted dumb around the dumb lady, but this isn't worth getting worked up about. I've seen more egregious sexual harassment during episodes of Entourage.
nevermind none of the defenders here, seemed to mention, she DROPPED her allegations against the Jets.
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post #37 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:08pm
You're Frank Miller, aren't you?

If it's ok to objectify women for dressing appealingly (which is, appallingly enough, a job requirement until they're too old to be hot), then you just open the door to the next level of harassment. This isn't even a complicated thought.
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post #38 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:08pm
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I think the dumb guys shouldn't have acted dumb around the dumb lady, but this isn't worth getting worked up about. I've seen more egregious sexual harassment during episodes of Entourage.
Obviously. Professional on the players' part, clearly not. But I find it hard to care much beyond that.
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post #39 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:09pm
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haha....amazingly dense. People like you are what happened to Erin Andrews.

So we know for the future, which of the following whores are asking for it?
Ah, journalism.
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post #40 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:09pm
What the fuck people? Men are animals and women shouldn't dress in tight clothes? That's what we're saying in here. Congrats on setting the human race back to the paleolithic.
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post #41 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:10pm
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You're Frank Miller, aren't you?

If it's ok to objectify women for dressing appealingly (which is, appallingly enough, a job requirement until they're too old to be hot), then you just open the door to the next level of harassment. This isn't even a complicated thought.
apples and oranges

hooting and hollaring, which i'm sure, NONE of you guys have ever done with your friends , does not equate to someone video taping someone nude secretly.
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post #42 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:11pm
Football players in a locker room are probably going to objectify a beautiful woman dressed like that every once in awhile. No one says they're being nice when they do it.

Male reporters are allowed in WNBA locker rooms right? I wonder what the outcry would be if a dude went in there in skintight pants and got some catcalls.
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post #43 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by joeypants View Post
Dickson, what the hell? Since when are words equal to groping? Or am I missing the part of the story where she was groped?
Apparently the defensive backs coach was throwing the football close to where she was standing so that the backs could get close to her.

But what ever. It's good to know there are a different set of standards for hot women. I'm sure the Jets will be perfectly ok and understanding when the same thing happens to their wives, sisters, daughters, mothers, etc. Just as long as they are hot and in tight clothes. Really what would they expect?
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post #44 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:12pm
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you're full of shit. I've seen all out brawls during them. But maybe your team has tea and krumpets afterwards?
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How does anything at all to what we are talking about equate to Erin Adrews getting video taped naked in her hotel room?
You make my brain hurt so good, NickP.
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post #45 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:13pm
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What the fuck people? Man are animals and women should't dress in tight clothes? That's what we're saying in here. Congrats on setting the human race back to the paleolithic.
women have been struggeling for decades to break through the glass ceiling, a woman like this, by herself, pushes that progress back.
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post #46 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:13pm
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Male reporters are allowed in WNBA locker rooms right? I wonder what the outcry would be if a dude went in there in skintight pants and got some catcalls.

Nice try. No one covers the WNBA.
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post #47 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:13pm
I don't know what's more disgusting, the rampant misogyny and woman hating in this thread, starting with the first fucking post, or the display of unchecked bigotry towards people of religious faith (that is, sadly, par for the course around here) in the Catholicism thread in religion.

Shut the fuck up, NickP. Shut the fuck up, joeypants. Dear god, shut the fuck up "Raperin' is man's natural state" Mad Man Mundt.
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post #48 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:13pm
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you're full of shit. I've seen all out brawls during them. But maybe your team has tea and krumpets afterwards?
I've seen fights break out, it happens. But I never felt in danger of the players going berserk and running up into the stands in search of raw meat, or that any remotely attractive woman who walked by did so at her own risk. I guess I've been to the wrong practices.
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post #49 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:13pm
That's what that bitch gets for wearing clothes like that.

Holy fuck, you guys.

EDIT: Haha, victim blaming. Awesome!
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post #50 of 371
9/17/10 at 5:14pm
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Male reporters are allowed in WNBA locker rooms right? I wonder what the outcry would be if a dude went in there in skintight pants and got some catcalls.
there certainly would a outcry, against the male
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