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post #1 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:10pm
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post #2 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:18pm
Duncan Jones, please. He's obviously got taste coming out the whazoo, and he's proven he can handle effects in a tasteful and efficient manner.


Snyder is an obvious geek favorite I guess. I really hope he doesn't get it just because, well... it'll be empty spectacle again. Although I'd be lying if I said part of me wasn't extremely curious to see Snyder play in the Superman sandbox. I just can't get behind the utter lack of brain-tickling with his films. Could be worse though, like.... (God help me, the more and more I ponder it though... I'd give Snyder a chance. The visual prospects are too tempting.)


Tony Scott. Fuck you. Don't. Just... don't.
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post #3 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:26pm
Yeah, Duncan Jones please. And that will give him money to get Mute off the ground later.
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post #4 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:27pm
I'd give it to Snyder.
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post #5 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:27pm
Zack Snyder would be a...Super Director for...Man Of Steel! Although, to me, the...Perfect director for, Man Of Steel, would be, The Master of Bayhem...Michael Bay!
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post #6 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:27pm
Duncan Jones seems like the most interesting choice to me. I could be happy with Reeves or Snyder as well.

Rumors keep going around here that they will be shooting Batman 3 here. I keep telling people with the money Nolan has made for WB they will shoot it where he wants to shoot.
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post #7 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:30pm
When I read this earlier, I wanted Jones immediately, He is really good with the visuals. His father should make a cameo as Jor-El.

ETA: Batman III has greenlight! I read the article but, what is the release date for Superman?
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post #8 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:40pm
I really need to see MOON.

Without having seen that, my preferences would be Reeves or Snyder. If Snyder and Nolan have a writer who can make sure there's depth to the characters, I think we'd have a really amazing Supes film.
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post #9 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:41pm
Jones? I have no idea why we'd want someone without a proven track record at action. Personally, I didn't even think MOON was 'all that'. I know I might be alone in that opinion, but I'm surprised that others are so eager to turn over the reigns of SUPERMAN to him based solely on his skill at shooting Sam Rockwell moping around.


James McTigue might be able to do something interesting. He's not a world class director, but he could bring an interesting visual sensibility and at least can handle action. As a recent SPEED RACER convert, I also feel compelled to suggest the Wachowskis. Keep them on a short leash and I bet you could get a great flick from them
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post #10 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:42pm
Not Zach Snyder. I like him, but he's wrong for Superman. Duncan Jones or Matt Reeves, please. And Tony Scott? FUCK NO TO THE FUCKING NO.
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post #11 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:45pm
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Jones? I have no idea why we'd want someone without a proven track record at action. Personally, I didn't even think MOON was 'all that'. I know I might be alone in that opinion, but I'm surprised that others are so eager to turn over the reigns of SUPERMAN to him based solely on his skill at shooting Sam Rockwell moping around.
Remember Peter Jackson and what he was good at before LOTR?
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post #12 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:48pm
As tempting as it is to jump around my office all excited about the idea of a Duncan Jones-directed Superman, part of me would hate to see my favorite new director gobbled up by an enormous franchise so soon in his career. If it's awesome, he can leverage it to do his own stuff, but if it fails, that's bad news for Zowie Bowie.
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post #13 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:50pm
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Remember Peter Jackson and what he was good at before LOTR?
Could I be wrong? Absolutely. However, I just wasn't blown away by Jones and so I feel less than confident about a SUPERMAN helmed by him. No hard feelings
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post #14 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:50pm
Duncan Jones for the win, Moon was out of this world... hehehe.

Snyder's also not the worst idea I've heard. He's really terrible when trying to do "smart", but he'd probably nail a popcorn version of Superman. Of Liebesman's films I've only seen Darkness Falls, which I kind of liked.
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post #15 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:51pm
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As tempting as it is to jump around my office all excited about the idea of a Duncan Jones-directed Superman, part of me would hate to see my favorite new director gobbled up by an enormous franchise so soon in his career. If it's awesome, he can leverage it to do his own stuff, but if it fails, that's bad news for Zowie Bowie.
Nolan steering the ship (to a degree) makes me feel so much safer about that possibility though. If it was just Jones going it alone with a different producer, I'd be more worried.

But I think with Nolan guiding him through some of the challenges of big-budget studio franchises... seems hard to go wrong there.
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post #16 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:51pm
Tony Scott's name sticks out like a particularly sore thumb.
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post #17 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:53pm
I wouldn't mind Snyder's visuals married to Nolan's storytelling savvy.
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post #18 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:55pm
Matt Reeves. Think I'd probably just sit this one out if I were him.
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post #19 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:57pm
Ok, I am going to be snarky for a minute which isn't my usual way, but if the story clearly tells you who they are talking to for the movie, why start suggesting others. Comment on the ones we have. I never understand when a story gives a definite group of people a studio is talking to that we then have to add in new ones who aren't even being considered.

And having rewatched Cloverfield this weekend on FX, Reeves might not be too bad a choice.
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post #20 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:58pm
The fuck is Liebseman doing there?!
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post #21 of 167
9/24/10 at 12:59pm
Long as its Nolan writing, I wouldnt mind Snyder taking this at all. Jones would work, but agreed that I dont want his talent tied down this early.

Isnt Matt Reeves friends with JJ Abrams? We know what road that went down, yeah?
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post #22 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:02pm
I could tell you who I'd be most interested in tackling this particular iteration of the charterer if I knew what take Goyer and Nolan have planned. Without that knowledge, though, it's impossible for me to say who i'd think would be the best choice to direct it. For all I know Tony Scott or Snyder would be perfect for it and Duncan Jones not.
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post #23 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:03pm
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I wouldn't mind Snyder's visuals married to Nolan's storytelling savvy.
Exaclty, with someone to keep him in check Snyder is actually the perfect choice for this job.
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post #24 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:04pm
Please, not Tony Scott. Liebesman and Reeves are insipid enough to deliver a harmless, Superman II level flick, but the thought of a Scott helmed Supes film makes me want to claw my own eyes out.

Snyder is born for this shit. He can certainly guarantee a visually spectacular film without being too much out of his depth in regards to the adaptation - which is what ultimately doomed Watchmen to be just another entry in his "Not bad" catalogue.

Thinking about it I'd go with Duncan Jones, with hope that everything goes well and he gains Nolan-like clout to do whatever he wants with his next projects while giviing us a possibly awesome Man of Steel adventure.

A question for you guys: with the massive overload of superhero films that will clutter 2012, isn't there a huge risk that by the time this gets done the larger populace will not give a shit?
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post #25 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:05pm
Also, wanted to echo the FUCK NO's re: Scott as the director. I've actually liked a lot of his stuff in the last 10-12 years, but I think he's entirely wrong for Supes.
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post #26 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:07pm
I feel weird wanting Duncan Jones based solely on his debut film, but man, what a film. Reeves would be my second choice, if only to keep Snyder and Scott away from this. I don't need to see a hyperkinetically-edited, speed-ramped Superman tearing the arms off his opponents.
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post #27 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:09pm
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I don't need to see a hyperkinetically-edited, speed-ramped Superman tearing the arms off his opponents.
I do.
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post #28 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:10pm
Matt Reeves, purely based on a gut feeling that he's the best fit. Based on Cloverfield and what I'm seeing and hearing of Let Me In, I think he could give us a believable "real world" Superman without resorting to grim and gritty, and without losing the bombastic and fantastic elements of a comic book.

Snyder would be my second choice but I think his version would be overwrought.

I like Duncan Jones but would prefer to see him stick to original material.
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post #29 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:12pm
Fuck it, get Scott. We've had bland Superman, let someone Tim Burton this franchise. Maybe we'd get Denzel as Lex Luthor!
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post #30 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:13pm
Jones would be the most interesting choice, akin to Cameron going from The Terminator to Aliens. Thou I'd be just as happy with Reeves.
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post #31 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:14pm
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Duncan Jones, please.

Tony Scott. Fuck you. Don't. Just... don't.
This.
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post #32 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:17pm
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I do.


You're welcome.
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post #33 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:17pm
Going off that list, I'd imagine Reeves gets the gig. Fits the type of director they'd go for - skilled, but controllable.
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post #34 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:19pm
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You're welcome.
That just makes me want Tarantino to get the gig.
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post #35 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:21pm
I vote Reeves. Jones is the kind of talent I'd like to see do his own thing for a while.
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post #36 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:21pm
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You're welcome.
Really, really study that image, the words in it... and soak in the irony and the truth.

It actually says everything.
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post #37 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:23pm
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Fuck it, get Scott. We've had bland Superman, let someone Tim Burton this franchise. Maybe we'd get Denzel as Lex Luthor!
With Unstoppable coming out, I've had quite enough of 'powerful locomotives' from Mr. Scott.
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post #38 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:31pm
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Suprised no one else has mentioned this. I feel like Reeves is the one most likely to get the gig, and he'll probably die in a bizarre stunt accident.
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post #39 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:51pm
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Really, really study that image, the words in it... and soak in the irony and the truth.

It actually says everything.
Exactly.

Not to derail, but I really loved the meta-fictional elements in Infinite Crisis. That, and George Perez is the man.
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post #40 of 167
9/24/10 at 1:53pm
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Exactly.

Not to derail, but I really loved the meta-fictional elements in Infinite Crisis. That, and George Perez is the man.
Wait... I did make it clear that I think a Superman tearing off limbs is a bad thing, right? I think I may have muddied it with too much sarcasm/dryness.
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post #41 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:01pm
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Wait... I did make it clear that I think a Superman tearing off limbs is a bad thing, right? I think I may have muddied it with too much sarcasm/dryness.
No, you were clear. I think the comic thinks it's a bad thing too. That's why Superboy is the villain of the story. [/derail]
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post #42 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:13pm
Just do a Superman anthology film. Hire everyone on that list to deliver a short segment that satisfies what everyone would want from the character.
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post #43 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:17pm
I don't want Jones to do this. I want him to keep making cool sci-fi films.

It's Snyder that should get it. Imagine his visuals coupled with a Nolan script and story supervision. It will be marvelous.
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post #44 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:22pm
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I don't want Jones to do this. I want him to keep making cool sci-fi films.

It's Snyder that should get it. Imagine his visuals coupled with a Nolan script and story supervision. It will be marvelous.
I think it would be over the top, as in too stylized. I wouldn't like having completely digital worlds, filled with slow motion fight sequences as the Superman world.
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post #45 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:26pm
I agree with this tweet by James Rocchi:

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I really wish Brad Bird was on that 'Potential Superman Directors List.' Truly and sincerely.
Hear, hear.

I think Snyder would at least be intriguing, but Tony Scott seems like a terrible choice.
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post #46 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:32pm
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I think it would be over the top, as in too stylized. I wouldn't like having completely digital worlds, filled with slow motion fight sequences as the Superman world.
It's Superman we're talking about. Verisimilitude is out of the question, by default. It needs to be stylized. It needs to have Supes punching Darkseid so hard you can see the shockwave from outer space.
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post #47 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:33pm
Snyder and maybe Jones. I say maybe Jones because I've seen enough of the guy to know that he's a geek, but there are different shades of geek, and if he's not one to geek for superheroes, then he needs to be out there doing his own thing, and his own thing is awesome (I imagine one of the reasons Nolan has connected to Jones is the mutual affinity for Blade Runner, among other things).

Synder is a laudable, techincally proficient journeyman, and would benefit from Nolan's attention to story and his ambivalence towards CGI. Snyder totally steering a Superman story on his own would scare me, but if he's being guided, then there might be something to look forward to.

Reeves and Liebesman are non-entities, but I'd personally contruct a Phantom Zone to toss Tony Scott into to keep him from directing this film. He'll probably get the gig.
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post #48 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:34pm
Jonathan Liebesman? Based on what movie?
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post #49 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:35pm
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Jonathan Liebesman? Based on what movie?
Apparently the studio's high on Battle: Los Angeles.
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post #50 of 167
9/24/10 at 2:38pm
If Nolan really came down hard on Snyder as far as the overuse of CGI and Snyder would actually take some pointers on dramatic resonance, it could work beautifully.

The CGI thing seems like one area where Nolan might really have a firm say so. Of course a good deal will be necessary for a flying superhero.
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