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Smallville S10: I Still Don't Know I Can Fly

post #1 of 251
9/25/10 at 12:59am
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I can't believe I'm coming back to this, but if this is the last season, then I figure I should stick with it since it seems to be getting decent. Right, this is the last season?

As expected, Clark gets the blue kryptonite dagger pulled from his chest. By Lois, so she knows his secret and all.

There are clones of Lex, to fit in with this back to the beginning episode, old clone Lex has Lois strung up like Clark was as a scarecrow (though she fills it out better). There's also a young boy clone.

And, ultimately, Clark flys. Only he doesn't know it, and thinks he must have jumped real high or something. This is getting weak.

And he's the villain that is to come because of what's coming. Or something. He now knows he has it in him to kill, though didn't he kill Wes Keenan in Prototype? Whatever. At least John Schneider shows up.

Anyway, it's a setup for this season with ominous warnings about darkness that's coming. That being the Smoke Monster from Lost. I have to give them credit for having it coalesce into something that actually looks like Darkseid. More than I can say for Galactus in Rise of the Silver Surfer.
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post #2 of 251
9/25/10 at 1:24am
What can I say? It's Superboy.

This episode had Alexander. A character from the mulitiverse I think.

The shadow formed a shape of Darkseid. Big time bad guy in the DC universe.

I like Erica, so I'm interested to see how they resolve her and him knowing the big secret, and I'm personally hyped to see him in the suit, which was totally forshadowed this episode.
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post #3 of 251
9/25/10 at 1:31am
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What can I say? It's Superboy.

This episode had Alexander. A character from the mulitiverse I think.
Yeah, but this was just a clone of Lex going by his full name. Not the actual Alexander Luthor

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The shadow formed a shape of Darkseid. Big time bad guy in the DC universe.
Yeah, I know that. I have to give them credit for actually doing it instead of it just being a dude. Of course, we need to see more episodes to see where it goes.

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I like Erica, so I'm interested to see how they resolve her and him knowing the big secret, and I'm personally hyped to see him in the suit, which was totally forshadowed this episode.
If this is the last season, they have the opportunity to go balls out with it. I hope they do and not just have this be a retread of someone has a secret.
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post #4 of 251
9/25/10 at 4:35am
Loved everything about it. I missed this show so much and it hit all the right notes.

Lois knew Clark was the blur in the finale last season, after he kissed her she trembled a bit and whispered "clark?". It was one of the best reveals of his identity in any tv or movie format. Glad they didn't wipe her mind or turn back time or some other bullshit.

Called the Lex clones last season and the loophole to get around Rosenbaum's failure to return (different actor).

I was so happy to see the return of John Schneider and that it wasn't in the abyss. This has been my favorite return show so far for the fall!
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post #5 of 251
9/25/10 at 5:50pm
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Glad they didn't wipe her mind or turn back time or some other bullshit.
Yet. It'll probably happen when she gets possessed by Isis (which seems like recycling a Lana story.)
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post #6 of 251
10/2/10 at 12:36am
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Guess not.

Deadshot is a dude with a red gizmo eye. Not too bad. And Hawkman is back, in Daniel Carter form, which resulted in better acting than in his original appearance I'd think.

Cat Grant is pretty damned annoying though. And not just for her anti-vigilante stance.
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post #7 of 251
10/2/10 at 12:44am
I liked it. I never imagined Deadshot as a cowboy while reading the comics, but it was fine.

Kat was annoying, but I think she was pretty much a cypher for us, and getting Clark in the red and blue.
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post #8 of 251
10/2/10 at 12:46am
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Evidently in Smallville-world guns fire the whole bullet, there's no shell casing.
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post #9 of 251
10/2/10 at 12:49am
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Is that Rick Flagg?
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post #10 of 251
10/12/10 at 12:13am
What is it about superheroes and press conferences?
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post #11 of 251
10/12/10 at 12:21am
So it's basically aping Supernatural with Darkseid being all smokey and possessing people.
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post #12 of 251
10/12/10 at 12:34am
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What is it about superheroes and press conferences?
Yeah, Iron Man all over again. I can't remember Ollie doing that in the comics, but he might have.

I like Lois naming the heroes. Superman last episode and Power Girl this one.
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post #13 of 251
10/12/10 at 12:58am
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Yeah, he was unmasked at one point. I don't think it was overwritten, so I think he's still a public super hero.
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post #14 of 251
10/12/10 at 8:47am
It was a really great episode. Glad Lois was back and loved everything about Supergirl's return.

To my knowledge, Green Arrow was outted as Oliver Queen in the comics a few times but the ending was totally an Iron Man rip off, I'm cool with that.. watched the credits for Sam Jackson, didn't happen but I got my fingers crossed for future episodes!

They had the phantom zone ghosts possessing people, I wouldn't say it's a rip off from Supernatural just seems like a better budget choice then a hulking giant alien guy with a bad suit. I mean heck, isn't that what Morrison did during the whole Final Crisis thing?

Clark FLEW! They need to get that shit over and done with... the creators are banned from the show, make this shit Superman and be done with it.. it's the final season!

Loved how Lois kept lurching towards Clark like she wanted to ravage him and tear his clothes off. Erica Durance is just such a great Lois and I'm glad they got rid of that tacky stripper scene in the credits. Looking forward to this weeks episode!
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post #15 of 251
10/12/10 at 9:49am
I stopped watching this show after season one, so can someone explain to me how this is supposed to dovetail into Clark becoming Superman, getting the suit, and moving into the recognized mythology and all that entails? The peripheral looks a hot mess.
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post #16 of 251
10/12/10 at 9:59am
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I stopped watching this show after season one, so can someone explain to me how this is supposed to dovetail into Clark becoming Superman, getting the suit, and moving into the recognized mythology and all that entails? The peripheral looks a hot mess.
It isn't. I didn't watch last season (didn't have cable or even a TV ) but this show always dodged the stuff you mentioned. It was more focused on Chloe, Ma Kent's cookies or bullshit like that.

I'm really enjoying this season thanks to Erica's charm.
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post #17 of 251
10/12/10 at 11:45am
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I stopped watching this show after season one, so can someone explain to me how this is supposed to dovetail into Clark becoming Superman, getting the suit, and moving into the recognized mythology and all that entails? The peripheral looks a hot mess.
It was a grand scheme design, Clark in high school and a revisionist journey of him becoming Superman. Lots of Superman references while he was in high school and apparently the big plan didn't include a post high school life. The show floundered for a couple of seasons while they tried to find their identity and find a general theme other then freak of the week. Ultimatly the show runners lacked the capabilities to pull this off but it was the top rated show on CW so they kept getting renewels. Two years ago they were booted (post strike revenge?) and the new show runners have been doing a great job (minus the doomsday finale). It's worth a catch up if you have nothing better to do and you just want some cheese in your diet but it ain't exactly Shakespeare.
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post #18 of 251
10/12/10 at 4:05pm
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This show has the weirdest love/hate relationship with the overall Superman mythos. They make changes, but go through the most mindboggling stupid machinations to course correct to something more akin to the Superman canon.

Seriously, you have Jimmy Olsen, a young photographer at the Daily Planet. He's on the show for three seasons, and he gets killed off. Fine, it's different from the comics, but this is a TV show, it can be different.

But no, during the funeral, the camera pans to a little kid. It's Jimmy's kid brother named James Bartholomew Olsen, and he happens to be wearing a bowtie and is given his brother's camera.

This, is Smallville.
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post #19 of 251
10/12/10 at 4:10pm
That's hilarious, and it supports my assertion that the abandoned but similarly premised Bruce Wayne show would have had less trouble travelling a straight line.
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post #20 of 251
10/13/10 at 12:08am
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Alright, thinking on the latest episode, I think I've got this figured out.

Smallville isn't actually about the origins of Superman and how Clark Kent becomes him. This is an alternate Earth like Earth-Three Thousand or something. It's actually the story of Superman, but it's really Superwoman. Like a reverse Earth were the characters that are dudes are really girls, only it only affected Supergirl.

That's the only way we could get



and



before freakin' Clark even learns how to fly or wear the costume. This is the story of the origins of Supergirl and how Kara Kent becomes her, with a ridiculously long prologue. This episode had a Kent in nerd getup, flying and saving someone's life, and (temporarily) defeating Darkseid. Everything we expect Superman to do.

I'd be less hard on it, if this episode didn't have the same Clark Kent that barely does anything after the episode where it looks like he's going to get off of his ass and actually start superheroing it up. This was of course signified by this:



That's Smallville for you.
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post #21 of 251
10/13/10 at 1:12am
The show practically has a disclaimer saying, "Look, we're saving the suit and the flying for the final shot of the final episode. Stop worrying about it."

It's really the only way the show can end in a satisfying way - you can't expect them to blow their load a handful of episodes from the finale?
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post #22 of 251
10/13/10 at 1:17am
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At this point, there's not going to be a payoff for it, unless it reboots as Metropolis: The Superman Show when this series ends.

It'd be one thing if it was just the suit, and I'll even throw in the flying, but it's also that Clark is still spinning his wheels despite everyone else getting stuff done. The end of the first two episodes of this season have had Clark look like he's going to move forward, what with him flying and then getting a new costume, only to reset in the next episode.
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post #23 of 251
10/13/10 at 2:29am
The Show actually is Metropolis: The Series from Season 8 onwards. From that point onwards, it became more DC Continuity based.

I don't care for the show much, but their portrayal of Dr Fate last year (From the Justice League Episode) was damm accurate.
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post #24 of 251
10/13/10 at 2:58am
I stopped watching a couple years back when I realized I was just fast-forwarding to the Chloe scenes and yelling "YOU SHOULD BE LANA" at the TV. How's she doing?
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post #25 of 251
10/13/10 at 3:02am
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Chloe faked her death and left. Cheers!
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post #26 of 251
10/13/10 at 3:04am
Fuck.
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post #27 of 251
10/13/10 at 9:31pm
Hey, it's better than the killing her off story we've been expecting for 'canon' sake all along. Erasing herself from history is actually a nice way to handle her role in Superman's story. They could've time traveled her out of existence!
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post #28 of 251
10/13/10 at 10:48pm
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Hey, it's better than the killing her off story we've been expecting for 'canon' sake all along. Erasing herself from history is actually a nice way to handle her role in Superman's story. They could've time traveled her out of existence!
If I remember correctly, back during Season 1 the prevailing fan theory was that she would grow up to be the 'real' Lois Lane.
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post #29 of 251
10/13/10 at 11:53pm
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She's been introduced to the comic universe. She's kinda like Harley Quinn that way.
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post #30 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:05am
Question for you people who've been watching this all along (actually preceded by an explanation):

I watched the first three seasons of this show and got bored. I was tired of the kryptonite mutant of the week formula, and all of the coy winks at what we know everybody will be later. I also got tired of how apparently terrified the showrunners were of showing anything overtly superheroic. It was like a weekly case of blue balls.

Now, from what I've been hearing the last couple of years, this has turned into something that I might want to check out again. But I do not want to play catchup on every single season.

So my question is, what season should I come in on to get into the stuff that makes up the modern version of the show? I know that the original showrunners were 86'd, but I don't know when that happened.
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post #31 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:08am
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Season 8 and on. Though pick and choose from Season 6 and 7. Season 6 is the one that introduces Green Arrow and had the modern Justice League episode.
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post #32 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:12am
I concur. 8 and on. Of course every season has some very fun episodes, but 8 and on will serve you best.

ETA: Of course every season of any show has it's share of fillers (which some people like anyway) and duds. But that's the nature of episodic TV.
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post #33 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:18am
Come to think of it, I must have gone later than three, because I remember Christopher Reeve's run. They always saved the episodes in which anything actually developed for the beginnings and ends of seasons, and then spun their wheels in the middle.
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post #34 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:18am
Umm maybe the 1st episode of Season 5 (I think that's the Fortress rising, which was damn was cool), then watch only the 1st half of season 8 and end at the wedding. Season 9 and Season 10 so far.
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post #35 of 251
10/14/10 at 6:06am
Lana left in season 7, so I'd start at season 8. That's when the show stopped feeling like Superman's Creek.

You could always go back later and watch the first and last episodes of previous seasons to see the best stuff.
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post #36 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:30pm
I can't link to the site because I'm at work, but I just discovered that Sam Jones III is in a newly released porno film called Karissa Shannon Superstar. Gee whiz, what would Clark say?
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post #37 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:35pm
Since we're playing Question Folks Who Still Watch Smallville: can someone explain how Clark still doesn't know he can fly? I distinctly remember episodes where he (1) flies to stop a missile that's just launched, and (2) flys around chasing Bizarro. Or are those just products of my fevered imagination?
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post #38 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:38pm
He knows. Clark apparently hasn't worked out the mechanics yet. As for (1) that was more of a long jump rather than flying.
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post #39 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:41pm
Can someone explain to me how this show has stayed on the air for a decade? Does it perform well in ratings? Is there a key demo that advertisers have zoned in on?
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post #40 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:42pm
So on this alternative Earth Kal-el is mentally challenged. Jump in the air, dude - it's not that hard.
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post #41 of 251
10/14/10 at 12:46pm
There's a "No Flying" Rule installed by the Showrunners since the beginning. There's not supposed to be any use of the Costume or Flying. It's only since Season 7 that they've begun to find ways around it.
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post #42 of 251
10/14/10 at 3:56pm
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There's a "No Flying" Rule installed by the Showrunners since the beginning. There's not supposed to be any use of the Costume or Flying. It's only since Season 7 that they've begun to find ways around it.
That rule worked when he was still a teen in high school, but boy done growed up. It's the last season, so they better be breaking out the fetishwear and let him fly.
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post #43 of 251
10/14/10 at 4:01pm
He did start to fly in the last episode, but then fell once he realized he was doing it.

Of course we know the main reason is probably budget.
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post #44 of 251
10/14/10 at 4:38pm
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Can someone explain to me how this show has stayed on the air for a decade? Does it perform well in ratings? Is there a key demo that advertisers have zoned in on?
It gets relatively good ratings for the CW and for a Friday night, it's fairly cheap, and someone sold their soul to the Devil to get this to stay on the air.

I'm not sure about one of these.

With this season it'll also beat Stargate SG-1 for the longest running North American Sci-Fi series. Ha ha, suck it Browncoats.
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post #45 of 251
10/14/10 at 5:16pm
It's mind-boggling. Is this the last season? This show could lap two seperate Superman reboots. All I remember from this show is Kevin Arnold's dad's pyrotechnic football coach and the Christ imagry from the season one promotional materials (Which is odd, for a Moses-like character).
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post #46 of 251
10/14/10 at 5:27pm
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It gets relatively good ratings for the CW and for a Friday night, it's fairly cheap, and someone sold their soul to the Devil to get this to stay on the air.

I'm not sure about one of these.

With this season it'll also beat Stargate SG-1 for the longest running North American Sci-Fi series. Ha ha, suck it Browncoats.
I thought Stargate also ran for ten seasons and Browncoats are Firefly fans?

Or were you being sarcastic? I can't tell half the time here.
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post #47 of 251
10/14/10 at 5:40pm
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(2) flys around chasing Bizarro. Or are those just products of my fevered imagination?
That may have been Bizarro you saw flying. Altho, when he got infected with the kryptonite that made him evil, I think he flew then? I could be mis-remembering that.
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post #48 of 251
10/14/10 at 5:45pm
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He did start to fly in the last episode, but then fell once he realized he was doing it.
That's awesome. In my head, that plays like a little boy learning to ride a bike: Welling yelling, "I'm doing it... I'm doing it!" *CRASH*


Ah, Teitr, I think you're right.
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post #49 of 251
10/14/10 at 5:46pm
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I thought Stargate also ran for ten seasons and Browncoats are Firefly fans?

Or were you being sarcastic? I can't tell half the time here.
Ten seasons also, but Smallville will likely have more episodes than SG-1 by the end of the season.

And I just find it hilarious that there are such fervent fans for a show that lasted half a season while Smallville is going to get ten.
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post #50 of 251
10/15/10 at 2:06am
Edit: Nevermind.
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