CHUD.com Community › Forums › THE CHEWERS › Drafts & Lists › 90's Draft: Commentary
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

90's Draft: Commentary - Page 3

post #101 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:56pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
Groundhog Day, first round. I got no beef with that whatsoever.
Agreed. Killer first round steal.
Reply
post #102 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:57pm
Really?
Reply
post #103 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:58pm
I had to, it's on my top ten of all time, and it had first priority if it was available. Rarely is a comedy so perfectly crafted top-to-bottom that you can say it's a perfect film. The best thing is that the central conceit is NEVER explained, there's nobody explaining what the hell is going on. It just....is.
Reply
post #104 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:00pm
You'll have to elaborate, sir. That film is near perfect, and does way more with that concept than it really deserved.

EDIT: ^What that dude said.
Reply
post #105 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:01pm
My only issue with the film is with Andie McDowell. She's gorgeous but she's an absolute void of talent. The movie would be improved 100% with pretty much ANY other actress in the role.
Reply
post #106 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:02pm
Ouch.
Reply
post #107 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:02pm
Andie Macdowell = perfection dodged

Eta: judas and the words outta my mouth
Reply
post #108 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:03pm
whew! Only three of my list taken so far, and none of them ones I really expected to get. That will probably change.
Reply
post #109 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:03pm
Comedy is subjective.

Ramis is an underrated director who shoots better than most of the comedy hacks currently working. The supporting cast in the film was strong for the time, but amazing today.

Bill Murray rises above the script.

But, first round? I'm just not seeing it.
Reply
post #110 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:06pm
What's wrong with the script?
Reply
post #111 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:08pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
My only issue with the film is with Andie McDowell. She's gorgeous but she's an absolute void of talent. The movie would be improved 100% with pretty much ANY other actress in the role.
Hence "near perfect". This is my gripe as well.
Reply
post #112 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:08pm
Its testament to how good the film around her is that even Andie "Black Hole" McDowell can't sink that film. Its about as good a comedy as you could find in the 90s and up there with the best of all time.

Yep, no problem with that going in the first.
Reply
post #113 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:08pm
If anything, Murray rises to the script.
Reply
post #114 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:09pm
I'm not surprised SPR went so early, but my opinion on that film has totally soured over the years. It's still technically brilliant(and influential) and the cast is great all-around, but oh god that script is horrid.

Miller's Crossing really hurts. It really does get better every time you watch it.
Reply
post #115 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:09pm
It's more than the humor, to me. I love Groundhog Day for the same reason I love Ikiru, and (movie not yet drafted). It never fails to improve my mood, and it succeeds in being inspirational. This is kind of an ideological position, but I tend to give an extra few points to films with a humanist message.
Reply
post #116 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:13pm
Man, I really need to give Miller's Crossing a rewatch. The first time I watched it, I was mystified by the plot for some reason, so I got confused, and it soured the whole thing for me. I kept feeling I missed something important.
Reply
post #117 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:14pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
If anything, Murray rises to the script.
Really? When you get past the temporal plot point...is there anything about the material that screams excellence?
Reply
post #118 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:15pm
Groundhog is such a weird flick. I realize there is pretty much universal love for Murray but take him out of the equation for a moment. On paper there is nothing about this that should create a first round pick movie for one of the greatest movie decades of all time. Yet what should be a tired trite formulaic comedy works so well and really is the centerpiece of Murray's comedic career.

I do agree that with a real female comedic force instead of McDowell this would get more all time great talk than it does.
Reply
post #119 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:16pm
'Ed Wood' hurts. Off the list it goes...
Reply
post #120 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:17pm
Groundhog Day is definitely a first rounder, no question.
Reply
post #121 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:18pm
Ah see Pulp and Ed these were the kind of films I expected to be gone by the time I got on here today. Fuck you both sirs..
Reply
post #122 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:18pm
Evil Twin is starting to step a little too close to me.
Reply
post #123 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:18pm
I'm surprised Pulp Fiction lasted even this long. Can't begrudge anyone for taking it quickly.

ETA: Well crap. I missed seeing Ed Wood taken. Well played, good sir.
Reply
post #124 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:18pm
Wish I'd joined. Good stuff folks.
Reply
post #125 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:19pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
Really? When you get past the temporal plot point...is there anything about the material that screams excellence?
It's not a science-fiction film. The point isn't temporal but existential. He can only advance in life when he achieves complete selflessness.
Reply
post #126 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:19pm
wow, how did it take this long for Pulp Fiction to go? Seems like a lot of the big guns are still to come. Hoping this means my picks are safe. *wishful thinking*
Reply
post #127 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:20pm
Hell, I'm kinda shocked we had to blow through more than 10 people before Pulp Fiction dropped.

EDIT: What everyone on the planet said, apparently.
Reply
post #128 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:20pm
Groundhog Day is, while not a film I feel passionately about, undeniably a classic of the era. It's that decade's It's A Wonderful Life. And Buddhists love it.
Reply
post #129 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:20pm
I agree with Cellophane..I guess some could argue that pulp became such an over played icon of a generation that there could be a backlash against it but to me that is all bullshit. I have no problem saying it's one of the most important and influential movies of it's time.
Reply
post #130 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:20pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata View Post
Wish I'd joined. Good stuff folks.
I've got a hunch that Kirby would let you in on the action, Nick.

also, what's your new avatar from?
Reply
post #131 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:21pm
Dang it, Rath. Your list in the lists thread made me laugh. I'm probably the only one who understands it. Kudos to the inclusion of Charley.
Reply
post #132 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:21pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Admiral Shark View Post
Man, I really need to give Miller's Crossing a rewatch. The first time I watched it, I was mystified by the plot for some reason, so I got confused, and it soured the whole thing for me. I kept feeling I missed something important.
Some of the finest firecracker dialogue you'll ever hear. Gorgeous cinematography. A pitch-perfect cast delivering pitch-perfect performances. A bloody, period gangster film.

Yeah, its pretty special.
Reply
post #133 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:22pm
ETA garbage post
Reply
post #134 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:23pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Yavor View Post
I have no problem saying it's one of the most important and influential movies of it's time.
This is completely inarguable. I see 2 schools of independent film in the 90s, one led by Pulp Fiction, the other by a yet-to-be-claimed masterpiece. Pulp Fiction influenced film far more than any film of the early 90s, backlash be damned.
Reply
post #135 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
It's not a science-fiction film. The point isn't temporal but existential. He can only advance in life when he achieves complete selflessness.
It's an existential film that comes across as watered down Serling. But, by stepping close to Serling styled material...it becomes distantly Sci-Fi. Step away from that genre's trappings for a moment and focus on the film.

What happens in that film as it functions as a human drama. What makes it excel?
Reply
post #136 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:27pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
I've got a hunch that Kirby would let you in on the action, Nick.

also, what's your new avatar from?
Return of the Living Dead, looks like.
Reply
post #137 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:27pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
also, what's your new avatar from?

It's the Tarman from "Return of the Living Dead". Big fan of the flick, even if they nuked Louisville at the end of it.
Reply
post #138 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:30pm
THIS close to Pulp Fiction lasting till tomorrow. Dang.
Reply
post #139 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:30pm
Thread Starter 
Certainly a spot for Nick if he wants it. Just join the last group that goes tomorrow.
Reply
post #140 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:30pm
1994 dominating over 1999 early. Pulp Fiction is one of those films that's easy to see the greatness of and miss how great it actually is. If that makes sense.
Reply
post #141 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:31pm
Wasn't expecting Babe in the least. Great film for all ages, but wasn't even close to my radar.
Reply
post #142 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:31pm
okay. That's....an interesting pick. huh.
Reply
post #143 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:32pm
I'm in the camp that Groundhog Day is a no doubt first rounder. Forget trying to point to parts, the whole exceeds everything.

Henry & June is the only one that really seems a reach. But, heck, if you love it, you love it.

Goodfellas, Miller's Crossing, Unforgiven, Fargo, & Pulp Fiction were all films I knew would go early.
Reply
post #144 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:32pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirby Drummond View Post
Certainly a spot for Nick if he wants it. Just join the last group that goes tomorrow.
Awesome. Pop me in!
Reply
post #145 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:32pm
Babe is more of a first-rounder than Groundhog's Day.
Reply
post #146 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:32pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tati View Post
THIS close to Pulp Fiction lasting till tomorrow. Dang.
Yeah. What's scaring me is how many great films I love seem to be lasting until tomorrow. I don't want to speak too early, but I may be facing a dilemma I never expected: To have to choose between some of my first round choices.
Reply
post #147 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:32pm
Thread Starter 
Yeah, PULP was so overrated that it's become underrated.
Reply
post #148 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:33pm
Babe really seems like a middle of the draft pick to me as has been said great family film but does not scream cream of the crop to me personally.
Reply
post #149 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:33pm
Yeah some really off the wall first-rounders, but hey that's why I love this place.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
Babe is more of a first-rounder than Groundhog's Day.
I can agree with this. GD has always seemed overrated to me. Murray is on fire and it's got a neat concept/execution, but that's about it for me.
Reply
post #150 of 3285
9/27/10 at 2:34pm
You guys are crazy. Babe is a masterpiece. Seriously.

Also, the next two days are going to HURT.
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Drafts & Lists
CHUD.com Community › Forums › THE CHEWERS › Drafts & Lists › 90's Draft: Commentary