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post #3251 of 3285
10/14/10 at 4:13am
My personal favorite Kevin Kline movie from the 90's is I Love You To Death. Such a fun little movie. I wasn't overly impressed with Dave, but then again I haven't seen it since it came out on home video.
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post #3252 of 3285
10/14/10 at 9:01am
An American President was pretty good too.
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post #3253 of 3285
10/14/10 at 11:55am
DAVE should have gone as well.
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post #3254 of 3285
10/14/10 at 12:00pm
All of these shoulds are really coulds. I think the majority of quality films that are genuinely beloved 90's film were drafted. The rest of these are good films that more people should see. That's not a slam against them, but it seems like we're just listing films to list them now.
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post #3255 of 3285
10/14/10 at 6:12pm
One last coulda: The Daytrippers.
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post #3256 of 3285
10/14/10 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
All of these shoulds are really coulds. I think the majority of quality films that are genuinely beloved 90's film were drafted. The rest of these are good films that more people should see. That's not a slam against them, but it seems like we're just listing films to list them now.
I hear you.

I mean, maybe I shouldn't talk - since I drafted Ghost, right? - but it is kind of getting to the point where, any minute now, someone is going to go: Shit! How could you not draft The Cutting Edge? Or... I can't believe we forgot COOL RUNNINGS!

Hey... Was Dutch in anyone's sights?

...

Just goofing. I do agree that, overall, this is a high-quality draft with very few weak picks and only a handful of really great films left out.
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post #3257 of 3285
10/14/10 at 11:06pm
Yeah, the last few pages have been peppered with variations of "Man, I can't believe no one drafted that middling film no one feels strongly about!"
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post #3258 of 3285
10/14/10 at 11:16pm
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Speaking of people named Brooks, has good will soured on As Good As It Gets?
My problem with As Good As It Gets is that the romantic relationship between Nicholson and Hunt doesn't feel half as believable as the one between Nicholson and Kinnear they didn't have the nerve to go after. I felt much more of a connection between those two characters than the ones we're supposed to feel it for.
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post #3259 of 3285
10/14/10 at 11:40pm
Did we mention In and Out? Because that's a fun movie that is also middling!

I know I was tooting the horn for Spike Lee, but from Do The Right Thing to Get on the Bus, that's a phenomenal run that is near-unmatched in recent history.
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post #3260 of 3285
10/14/10 at 11:47pm
Do you think Jungle Fever and Mo' Better Blues are real and enduring achievements? The filter of time seems to be leaving them behind.
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post #3261 of 3285
10/14/10 at 11:52pm
I really liked Jungle Fever when I saw it in college. I thought there were some great performances in it, and some interesting ideas Lee was playing with, even though I didn't agree. Jungle Fever has a problematic ending, though.
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post #3262 of 3285
10/15/10 at 4:14am
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Jungle Fever has a problematic ending, though.
Understatement of the year. But, in my eyes, Samuel L. Jackson's performance redeems that fucking wacky ending. Anyone who can shimmy to his death without breaking the emotion of the scene is an incredible actor. As Dre once said, the performance is so good Cannes had to invent an award for him.

Still prefer Mo Better Blues, but it's not a huge achievement like Do the Right Thing, or 25th Hour. His crowning achievements are sadly right on either ends of the decade.

But I think Girl 6 and Summer of Sam would be the only movies he did in the 90's weren't better than Ghost.
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post #3263 of 3285
10/15/10 at 9:00am
I actually really like Summer of Sam. Talking dog and all.
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post #3264 of 3285
10/15/10 at 11:05am
I think Summer Of Sam has tons of ambition and gumption. And it has that amazing sequence scored to Baba O'Riley.

But the whole movie can pretty much be summed up with that funny sex scene between John Leguizamo and Mira Sorvino. ... Unsatisfying.

Spike Lee didn't really have a clear handle on these characters. They don't feel real and you can never really connect with anyone. Ultimately, I was more engaged by the investigative aspects of the film. But, since that's not really what the movie is interested in, it lost me.

It's definitely an interesting faliure though.
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post #3265 of 3285
10/15/10 at 5:49pm
Warner Bros had an interesting run where they got some high-end filmmakers to make classy adaptations of classic kids' books: Agnieszka Holland's THE SECRET GARDEN ('93), Caroline Thompson's BLACK BEAUTY ('94) and Alfonso Cuaron's A LITTLE PRINCESS ('95).
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post #3266 of 3285
10/15/10 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by tommy five-tone View Post
Warner Bros had an interesting run where they got some high-end filmmakers to make classy adaptations of classic kids' books: Agnieszka Holland's THE SECRET GARDEN ('93), Caroline Thompson's BLACK BEAUTY ('94) and Alfonso Cuaron's A LITTLE PRINCESS ('95).
Don't forget Nicolas Roeg's The Witches in 1990.
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post #3267 of 3285
10/15/10 at 6:39pm
Oh, man, I can't believe I forgot this one, but it's a really low-key movie that could easily escape the attention of most folks: NOBODY'S FOOL (1995, dir. Robert Benton), starring Paul Newman, Jessica Tandy, Melanie Griffith and Bruce Willis. (Also, a very young Philip Seymour Hoffman!)

If you haven't seen this, try to track it down - a very sweet character study with a tremendous performance by Newman.
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post #3268 of 3285
10/17/10 at 5:59am
And if we've reached the stage where we're saying 'Oh, such-and-such wasn't all that bad', then I think CAN'T HARDLY WAIT had some fun stuff going on. mainly the scenes with Seth Green and Lauren Ambrose. And it did have a pretty sweet line-up of supporting actors and cameos.
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post #3269 of 3285
10/18/10 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by tommy five-tone View Post
And if we've reached the stage where we're saying 'Oh, such-and-such wasn't all that bad', then I think CAN'T HARDLY WAIT had some fun stuff going on. mainly the scenes with Seth Green and Lauren Ambrose. And it did have a pretty sweet line-up of supporting actors and cameos.
I sort of hate to admit it, but that particular teen flick has stuck with me more than I'd have expected. I think I mostly caught it due to the fact that Ethan Embry played the un-named bass player in That Thing You Do, but I really enjoyed it. You're right...the Seth and Lauren stuff was a highlight of that movie.
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post #3270 of 3285
10/21/10 at 3:49am
Hey, what about MIAMI BLUES?
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post #3271 of 3285
10/21/10 at 9:47am
Kirby picked it.
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post #3272 of 3285
10/21/10 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by tommy five-tone View Post
Oh, man, I can't believe I forgot this one, but it's a really low-key movie that could easily escape the attention of most folks: NOBODY'S FOOL (1995, dir. Robert Benton), starring Paul Newman, Jessica Tandy, Melanie Griffith and Bruce Willis. (Also, a very young Philip Seymour Hoffman!)

If you haven't seen this, try to track it down - a very sweet character study with a tremendous performance by Newman.
I agree wholeheartedly. A special little film. Newman is very funny, and it's a kick watching him play essentially a doofus.
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post #3273 of 3285
10/21/10 at 1:11pm
Thread Starter 
You better recognize!
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post #3274 of 3285
10/21/10 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by tommy five-tone View Post
Oh, man, I can't believe I forgot this one, but it's a really low-key movie that could easily escape the attention of most folks: NOBODY'S FOOL (1995, dir. Robert Benton), starring Paul Newman, Jessica Tandy, Melanie Griffith and Bruce Willis. (Also, a very young Philip Seymour Hoffman!)

If you haven't seen this, try to track it down - a very sweet character study with a tremendous performance by Newman.
On my extended list. Not a Top Fiver, but a gem. And maybe the last great Newman performance?
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post #3275 of 3285
10/21/10 at 1:41pm
Road to Perdition says otherwise.
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post #3276 of 3285
10/21/10 at 1:51pm
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Road to Perdition says otherwise.
You don't think he gave a great performance in Nobody's Fool?

Edit: Never mind, I'm an idiot who can't tell time. But let's say it's his last great LEADING MAN performance.
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post #3277 of 3285
10/21/10 at 5:08pm
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You better recognize!
Boy, I feel like a perfect ass.



Sorry, Kirby!
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post #3278 of 3285
10/22/10 at 4:29pm
I just wanna say that, after being reminded of it in the Movie Stuff I Just Realised thread, I totally would have supported Hudson Hawk as a bonus pick.
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post #3279 of 3285
10/22/10 at 5:10pm
Shit, did anyone draft Hated? Would have fit into either my or Tati's theme.
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post #3280 of 3285
10/24/10 at 5:28pm
Yes, Robert De Niro has made some crap comedies but ANALYZE THIS ain't one of them.
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post #3281 of 3285
10/25/10 at 11:21am
The talk of Kevin Kline films reminds me of a film he has a part in that never gets mentioned even with a great RDJ performance, Chaplin.
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post #3282 of 3285
10/25/10 at 1:38pm
Good performance, weak film. And Kline is nothing like the real Fairbanks in it. But judged on the merits of Moira Kelly's breasts it's a masterpiece.
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post #3283 of 3285
10/26/10 at 12:16pm
Rewatched Dark City thanks to this thread. Now I know why I don't remember any of it from years ago. It's a boring slog to nowhere. 5th Element 4ever.
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post #3284 of 3285
10/28/10 at 12:31am
Gummo made the list. Just sayin'.
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post #3285 of 3285
10/28/10 at 1:08am
So did My Cousin Vinny.
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