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post #451 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
Well like Fight Club, its not its popularity per se, but the type of people who like it for the wrong reasons. Still, this is a litmus test for me. If you don't like this film, its a good bet I don't like you.
I'm honestly surprised Lebowski got past you, Diva. Thought that was a surefire first rounder for you.
post #452 of 3285
I have no problem seeing a Brigitte Bako movie make the first round.

Also, let me quickly throw in some more love for the Babe pick. That's such a good movie.
post #453 of 3285
So Justin takes the bullet for the rest of us. The movie has it's fans and detractors but first round?
post #454 of 3285
Thread Starter 
Family Guy did a better Shawshank ending.

Lebowski > Groundhog Day

Strange Days is cool. Seems like a later round pick though.
post #455 of 3285
Precisely. A good movie, but hardly 1st round worthy.
post #456 of 3285
Alphabetizer's odd note. We had 29 movies selected before one starting the word "The", then we had three in a row.
post #457 of 3285
'Strange Days' was definitely in the consideration for me, mainly as a later round pick.

It's smart, it's entertaining, and it's very well made. The only flaw in the film is with the incredibly shrill Juliette Lewis, but it's a minor quibble in a film that features some very fine acting from everyone else.
post #458 of 3285
Strange Days is the first movie picked so far that I haven't seen. There's no real reason I haven't seen it yet...I just haven't. Which is odd, come to think of it. I have the DVD, too, so I literally have no excuse. Bought it years ago. It's not like I haven't had the time, either, because I've somehow found the time in my busy life to watch Bring It On multiple times.

This week. I will watch it this week.

Long story short(too late), I have no opinion on Justin's pick.
post #459 of 3285
Naked Lunch is the only one I thought had a chance of getting back to me at Round 2. Dammit.
post #460 of 3285
Hunter with the kick to the balls. Well played sir. Great performances all around.
post #461 of 3285
I expected it to come up about now. Nice. Tarantino really has his due in the first round.
post #462 of 3285
Hunter with an absolute steal! I <3 that film.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
I'm honestly surprised Lebowski got past you, Diva. Thought that was a surefire first rounder for you.
I'm not going obvious route this draft or else Pulp and Lebowski would be high on my list. I knew they would get taken, and they should. I'm trying to highlight other stuff that would otherwise get left out.
post #463 of 3285
I contemplated snatching up the oppressively HUGE latter-decade sci-fi elephant in the room, but I show that film and its successors enough love on a regular basis.

Strange Days, on the other hand, is a more fascinating, underloved beast. Ratty's not wrong. Its ambition often overreaches its grasp. But it still accomplishes what so many sci-fi films trying to be cyberpunk don't. It's really about right now, and where we could go, as opposed to where that motley crue actually is, and everything neat about it. It's a dirty, weirdly contemplative son of a bitch that pretty much encapsulates everything cool and extraordinarily fucked up about 90s culture.

Also, blasphemy I realize, but it has probably my favorite Ralph Fiennes performance.

That's worth the first round for me.
post #464 of 3285
Thread Starter 
TR might be the best party of the decade. Half of Hollywood came to hang out and they all seem to be having a good time.
post #465 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Diva View Post
I'm not going obvious route this draft or else Pulp and Lebowski would be high on my list. I knew they would get taken, and they should. I'm trying to highlight other stuff that would otherwise get left out.
And I, for one, am very grateful for that, Diva.
post #466 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
It's smart, it's entertaining, and it's very well made. The only flaw in the film is with the incredibly shrill Juliette Lewis, but it's a minor quibble in a film that features some very fine acting from everyone else.
The ONLY flaw with the film?

Hardly.

Still, it's an interesting flick.
post #467 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Jason Yavor View Post
Hunter with the kick to the balls. Well played sir. Great performances all around.
Thanks, but the correct answer is ".357 Magnum round to the balls."
post #468 of 3285
Hunter you fucking asshole.
post #469 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Chris Allen View Post
I hate drafting so late.

Question:

Better comedy - Big Lebowski or Groundhog Day?

Both are great, but Lebowski is higher on my list.

edit: Mr. Cellophane beat me to the it.
Groundhog Day. Much tighter script. Lebowski goes on forever, it seems.
post #470 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
Strange Days, on the other hand, is a more fascinating, underloved beast. Ratty's not wrong. Its ambition often overreaches its grasp. But it still accomplishes what so many sci-fi films trying to be cyberpunk don't. It's really about right now, and where we could go, as opposed to where that motley crue actually is, and everything neat about it. It's a dirty, weirdly contemplative son of a bitch that pretty much encapsulates everything cool and extraordinarily fucked up about 90s culture.

Also, blasphemy I realize, but it has probably my favorite Ralph Fiennes performance.

That's worth the first round for me.
It's not blasphemy. It's also my favorite Fiennes performance. He's the main reason the movie works. My only gripes is it being a first rounder, but to each is own.
post #471 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post
Lebowski goes on forever, it seems.
Yes. And I love that meandering pace. But Altman's The Long Goodbye is one of my favorite films, so its stoned-out cousin's pace isn't going to bother me none.
post #472 of 3285
As for Lebowski/Groundhog, Groundhog is the better comedy, but Lebowski is the better movie. Does it make sense?
post #473 of 3285
It's my favorite Ralph Fiennes performance as well. I wish that the movie had been successful so that he would have done MORE roles like this.

I also have to give respect to the work that Angela Bassett does here. I've always liked her, but she really digs into this role and makes it something special.
post #474 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Mr_Cellophane View Post
Yes. And I love that meandering pace. But Altman's The Long Goodbye is one of my favorite films, so its stoned-out cousin's pace isn't going to bother me none.
It's also an homage to the famously convoluted plot of The Big Sleep. The Coens don't structure haphazardly.
post #475 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
It's my favorite Ralph Fiennes performance as well. I wish that the movie had been successful so that he would have done MORE roles like this.

I also have to give respect to the work that Angela Bassett does here. I've always liked her, but she really digs into this role and makes it something special.
They're all good. Except Lewis. I just can't stand her in everything she's in.
post #476 of 3285
Lebowski wins every argument. This and Boogie Nights were my top two contenders for Round 1 and I had a gut feeling they'd go.

Just remember, this is not 'Nam, this is a draft. There are rules.
post #477 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Martin S View Post
As for Lebowski/Groundhog, Groundhog is the better comedy, but Lebowski is the better movie. Does it make sense?
On a pure filmmaking level, it don't think there's any argument that Lebowski is a better made film. I just find it a little too meandering for my tastes.
post #478 of 3285
It was between 'Leon' and 'True Romance' for my #1 pick, dammit. I really, REALLY thought that TR would make it until tomorrow. Hell, I even made up a picture for it in anticipation of adding it to my overall list; THAT probably jinxed me.
post #479 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Ratty View Post
On a pure filmmaking level, it don't think there's any argument that Lebowski is a better made film. I just find it a little too meandering for my tastes.
Que ridiculo!
post #480 of 3285
Don't we go first tomorrow as well?
post #481 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
The Coens don't structure haphazardly.
That's a great way to put it.
post #482 of 3285
I love Strange Days, as bloated as it is. Never would have taken it first round, but it's a near-great 90's sci-fi action flick, with some great performances(and Lewis miscasting). Some really great quotable dialogue too. Avatar could have used some of that.
post #483 of 3285
I haven't seen a lineup for tomorrow.

True Romance is another film I never learned to love. Lots of posturing and stealing.
post #484 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Ben Thomas View Post
Jacob's Ladder is an odd one. I was far too young when I first saw it (13?) and it was not what I expected. But seeing it again a few years later, I saw there were sequences of extreme power and discomfort in there. Its a very atmospheric film and I think it represents Tim Robbins' absolute best performance. The ending, for me, was very powerful.
I saw it aged 14 and it did to me what Daryll Revok did to the ConSec guy's head at the begining of Scanners. It's perfect.
post #485 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
Man on Fire'


Jackie Brown, Lebowski, and True Romance were all movies I toyed with taking but I've committed to a theme this year and Seven is the perfect mood setter for the rest of the list. I can't wait until I get to pick tomorrow. I had to get Seven because if I hadn't it would have been taken, but tomorrow I'll start with some more niche stuff.
post #486 of 3285
I always go back and forth on whether I like the Owl Creek ending of Jacob's Ladder.
post #487 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Don't we go first tomorrow as well?
Yep. At least that is why I am going to let Martin draft for me tomorrow.
post #488 of 3285
Sorry to Seven go, I consider it Fincher's masterpiece...never loved Fight Club, I adore the book and the last half hour of the film strays too far from the source material for me...

Boogie Nights stings...I love it to death (even though it's Goodfellas redux, but PTA does it so well)...plus for me nothing in Goodfellas tops the firecracker/Jesse's Girl scene...

And Malkovich is a great, great pick...
post #489 of 3285
Heavenly Creatures was a solid third rounder in my book.
post #490 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
I haven't seen a lineup for tomorrow.

True Romance is another film I never learned to love. Lots of posturing and stealing.
Right there with you again.

And, Tati, Heavenly Creatures is at least a second round pick. It's probably Jackson's best film. FOTR: EE is the only thing that would challenge it, in my eyes.
post #491 of 3285
Hammerhead.

You got family, Hammerhead? Friends?

Not anymore.

You fuck.
post #492 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Heavenly Creatures was a solid third rounder in my book.

Rachel Weisz is a solid first rounder in mine.
post #493 of 3285
Heavenly Creatures was set to be my second pick. Damn.

Great movie that showed that Jackson is anything but a one trick pony. And the greatest use of "You´ll never walk alone" of all time.
post #494 of 3285
Heavenly Creatures stings a bit. It really wouldn't have quite fit into my list, but it was in the back of my head just in case.

I don't think Jackson has done anything else even approaching it. It's a phenomenal movie.
post #495 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Tati View Post
Heavenly Creatures was a solid third rounder in my book.
Lucky for me. I knew I couldn't risk it.
post #496 of 3285
Am I losing my mind faster than I thought, or did someone change their pick? I could have sworn I saw a film (and quote) that is now gone.
post #497 of 3285
Mr. Allen. Well done. I was waiting for it. Such a freaking fantastic film.
post #498 of 3285
I am very surprised it took this long for LA Confidential to go. I pegged it as Rath's first choice. Such a great movie.
post #499 of 3285
L.A. Confidential almost made it to my time slot, I'm surprised it got this far.
post #500 of 3285
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Originally Posted by Raspberry Leper View Post
Am I losing my mind faster than I thought, or did someone change their pick? I could have sworn I saw a film (and quote) that is now gone.
No, I'm pretty sure I'm with you on that one. I saw/un-saw it, too.
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