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post #51 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:05pm
I wanted to have the greatest something of all time, I settled with documentary.
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post #52 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:06pm
I thought Costner was great, actually.

Picking apart Costner's performance in a film like JFK is besides the point, though isn't it? The important thing is what he represented to the audience. He was a Gary Cooper/ Jimmy Stewart; someone all-american and trustworthy; a light amidst the darkness; someone identifiable, enabling Stone's conspiracy theories to be somewhat swallowable. (I mean due in large part to his delivery, the final courtroom monologue is pretty powerful)
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post #53 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:08pm
If H&J fits a theme you really have to rethink that theme if the movie can be gotten much, much later. EWS is my least favort Kubrick movie. And Goodfellas is sandwiched in between. Crazy top 3.

Shouldn't be surprised who took Miller's Crossing. Always an interesting first day.

*also I would have taken Leon if it was still there with my 2nd pick so if you wanted it, you were right to take it.
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post #54 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:12pm
Some great and obvious picks. Goodfellas, Miller's and Fargo. I love Leon, but like SPR, not 1st round material for me.
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post #55 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:12pm
I pretty much knew, with two days of posters before me, Leon had no chance of surviving till me. But I love that film enough that I still held a fools hope of getting it.

This also confirms that, once again, me and Judas are gonna be enemies.
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post #56 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:15pm
Chungking Express is a nifty choice. Such great visuals in that flick. Made me wish I could do my shopping at a Hong Kong five n' dime.
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post #57 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis View Post
Picking apart Costner's performance in a film like JFK is besides the point, though isn't it? The important thing is what he represented to the audience. He was a Gary Cooper/ Jimmy Stewart; someone all-american and trustworthy; a light amidst the darkness
That's fair enough, Elvis, but those guys were better actors.
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post #58 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:17pm
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I pretty much knew, with two days of posters before me, Leon had no chance of surviving till me. But I love that film enough that I still held a fools hope of getting it.

This also confirms that, once again, me and Judas are gonna be enemies.
I have little doubt that you'll be swiping some of my picks, Justin.

And yeah, 'Leon' is pretty much the perfect action film. It's one of those films that I find myself watching about once every 6 months...which is my theme.
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post #59 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:23pm
The first time I saw Leon was in a dollar theater where a smelly guy wearing a trench would jingle his keys every time Portman came onscreen. He was sitting right behind me. I didn't get through the showing.
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post #60 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:29pm
I didn't know I needed to worry so much about Rath . . .

And great first pick, Ripoll.

I had fool's hopes of Miller's Crossing sticking around until tomorrow, but alas, it went first. I knew Goodfellas wouldn't make it, but I was blindly praying Miller's would stick around.

This being my first draft: How the frick do you all deal with the anxiety of waiting for your picks. This can be almost unbearable. I wasn't paying attention to my 8:00 class at all.
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post #61 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:31pm
I've got a pretty emotional connection to SPR that makes it a no-brainer first round pick for me. But even without that, it's a bravura piece of filmmaking, it's got a least two great performances in it (Hanks and Sizemore), and the sentimentality of the final framing sequence is turned on its head by the faded-out American flag that seems to say, "No, we haven't earned this." I know the obvious is always unfashionable in these drafts, but I don't care. This is a first round pick all the way.
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post #62 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:33pm
LOVE 'Drugstore Cowboy'. It didn't fit my theme but it did make my list of choices. Great pick, Elvis.
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post #63 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:35pm
SPR has too many flaws to be a first round pick, in my opinion. It's all downhill after the opening sequence, which is amazing as a table setter, but does not a great film make. Doesn't have anything to do with fashion.

Drugstore Cowboy was one I remember thinking might be there for me in the 80's draft. I had always thought it was from '87 for some reason.
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post #64 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:40pm
Yeah, I totally thought Drugstore was an 80's flick. Pissed I didn't think of it.
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post #65 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:42pm
I love Ebert calling DRUGSTORE an "outlaw road movie". It has that 70's feel, and is one of the big guns of the "Spike, Mike, Slackers, & Dykes" wave of indie cinema. A real important one in my film geek evolution.

(The line /paraphrasing/ "Junkies have trouble with the difficult things in life, like tying their shoes" has always haunted me)
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post #66 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:44pm
If not the best (I'd still put it top 5 or 10), Unforgiven is probably my favorite movie of the decade. It was difficult to pass it over. Very important in my formative years, such a well thought out screenplay, the themes really speak to me, etc.
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post #67 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:47pm
'Unforgiven' is a masterpiece. It just didn't fit my theme. Also, I got my Clint itch scratched pretty thoroughly in the 60s draft.
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post #68 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:50pm
I just saw Unforgiven for the first time this year. For someone who has to be really impressed to dig on Westerns, the fact that I was as blown the hell away as I was is a triumph.
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post #69 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:54pm
John Wayne did it better with THE SHOOTIST.
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post #70 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:54pm
Wow this interesting so far and making me wonder if my 90's movies have aged differently than the rest of the world. Goodfellas, Miller's Crossing, Chungking Express, and Unforgiven are the only ones that hurt at all and I knew there was no chance Fellas or Eastwood was making it to my pick. Express to me seems like a stretch for round 1, more of a 2-3 pick.
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post #71 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:54pm
Now that's a great movie. Nice one Teledork.

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I'm someone who's gonna pick first the movie on my list that I think is the most wanted, for fear of losing it, and gamble with the more obscure one.

Like: Crumb? First round? Anyone else was gonna pick that? That's a theme choice, right?
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post #72 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:55pm
John Wayne never did anything better than Eastwood.
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post #73 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:55pm
A masterpiece, indeed.
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post #74 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:57pm
Yeah, Unforgiven is incredible. Clint's finest directorial work, for my money.

And Ryan is a great film, bookends aside. I don't - and never have - bought that its all about the landing sequence. The final battle is one of my favourites ever put to film and left me shaken and speechless the first time I saw it. Its episodic as hell, but its still a great film and - if nothing else - opened the gates for Band of Brothers. Let us not forget how it changed the way most battle sequences were (and arguably still are) shot for at least a decade for a reason.
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post #75 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:57pm
I had no idea Leon was so popular, though I suppose I should have. Wasn't even on my radar.

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Originally Posted by Martin S
Like: Crumb? First round? Anyone else was gonna pick that?
Judging by Doug's response when I picked it...

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Originally Posted by Doug
Jesus fucking christ, Patrick. Get out of my head.
Maybe.
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post #76 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:59pm
Dazed going in round one is a surprise. It was nowhere near my list, but I know its beloved by many of a certain age.
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post #77 of 3285
9/27/10 at 12:59pm
All right, all right, all right, ratty.
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post #78 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:01pm
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Dazed going in round one is a surprise. It was nowhere near my list, but I know its beloved by many of a certain age.
I consider it probably the best, and more importantly, the least judgmental or melodramatic teen film ever made.
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post #79 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:04pm
Thread Starter 
Dazed. That's the first film that hurt.
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post #80 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:06pm
Dazed is great. One of my many Day 2 picks getting swiped in the first. No clue what will remain now with some left field picks.

Eastwood has done great but I'll put up Rio Bravo up against any Clint movie and win.
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post #81 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:10pm
Unforgiven is my favorite pick so far. I wrote Goodfellas off as soon as the idea of the draft came along. Knew that would go right away.
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post #82 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:11pm
People are gushing over Dazed? Yet, they were all so quick to shit on potential picks for the younger crowd.

Nostalgia is a foul bitch.
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post #83 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:12pm
I'm also in the "really???????" camp over Dazed. Especially for a 1st round pick.
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post #84 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:13pm
Eastwood did it better with BRONCO BILLY.
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post #85 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:13pm
I think Dazed is a really good pick. I put down everything and watch it to the end whenever it's on TV. It's just super watchable.
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post #86 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:14pm
C'mon, naysayers, DAZED is a perfect film.
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post #87 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:15pm
Aside from the nose grabbing of Wally Whatshisface, I can't think of a single thing wrong with the movie, really. It's the perfect representation of a teen film.
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post #88 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:16pm
Thread Starter 
My appreciation of Dazed is mixed up with nostalgia. But the film stands alone without it. It's just a great work.
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post #89 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:19pm
Dazed was a big film to discover at my high school, especially among the stoner crowd. I remember multiple long discussions about which character everyone related to. I always said Adam Goldberg.

About a year after I graduated, I went back and revisited the film. It was super depressing to realize, with some hindsight, that I wasn't ANY of the characters, that the character that represented me was staying home that night, watching Kojak.

D&C has always been a depressing movie for me, a representation of all the good times in high school I never had.
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post #90 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:20pm
I saw Dazed and Confused years after I was the "right age" to see it, far out of the reaches of any potential nostalgia. It's a great movie.

God, Patrick, shut up.
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post #91 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:25pm
I'm a huge fan of Linklater, but he's done a few better.
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post #92 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:27pm
I still haven't seen Dazed all the way through, but I've gotten far enough to know Anderson's spot on.

Not that it's bad. Just....he's done better.
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post #93 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:40pm
So can I go?
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post #94 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:41pm
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I still haven't seen Dazed all the way through, but I've gotten far enough to know Anderson's spot on.

Not that it's bad. Just....he's done better.
He's done two better. One from another era and the other doesn't fit my "theme."

Even though Dazed takes place a full decade before I graduated from high school, I think it best captured my experience as a teenager. You had your close knit friends and then you had your nodding acquaintances from a whole bunch of other cliques that you would probably never be friends with outside of high school. No melodrama, no tragedies.

First time I saw the movie I kept waiting for someone to overdose or get arrested and DUI themeselves into oblivion. Never happened. Props to that.
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post #95 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:42pm
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Dazed. That's the first film that hurt.
Dazed was going to be my first round pick.

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Originally Posted by Ratty
Even though Dazed takes place a full decade before I graduated from high school, I think it best captured my experience as a teenager. You had your close knit friends and then you had your nodding acquaintances from a whole bunch of other cliques that you would probably never be friends with outside of high school. No melodrama, no tragedies.
That was my experience with it. More than any movie before or since, that movie felt like what high school was really like.
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post #96 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:48pm
Thread Starter 
That's a lot of agenda to come to a film with, Ripoll. Tough to enjoy it with that. But films are subjective and I suppose that's what happens with them sometimes. Or it's even what they are there for in many cases.
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post #97 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:48pm
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He's done two better. One from another era and the other doesn't fit my "theme."
Good.
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post #98 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:53pm
Groundhog Day, first round. I got no beef with that whatsoever.
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post #99 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:54pm
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That was my experience with it. More than any movie before or since, that movie felt like what high school was really like.
Has there ever been a less miserable depiction of teen life? Hell, even Porky's had that one character whose father beat him, and the mostly-breezy American Graffiti ends on an ominous note.
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post #100 of 3285
9/27/10 at 1:55pm
I've got more beef than Arby's with that.
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