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post #51 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:36pm
I'm surprised this happened so quickly after RETURNS disappointed everyone.

I like how they're addressing one of the main complaints about RETURNS, though. I'm confident Snyder will follow-up RETURNS' limp "Superman occasionally lifts heavy things" action scenes with with a ton of BLAZING "Superman smashes and punches the shit out of things" action scenes.
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post #52 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:36pm
What a weird pairing Nolan and Snyder will be. I'm actually more curious about the state of the script that Goyer is working on and what they're going to attempt there. Not that director doesn't matter, I'm sure visually Snyder will be fine in that department (it's where he excels). I'm also glad he's not overseeing it, though, like Watchmen.
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post #53 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:38pm
This sounds like a great combo. I just feel like the world has moved on from Superman at this point. Prove me wrong Nolan & Snyder.
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post #54 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:42pm
Updated with Snyder's Twitter confirmation, and the villain reveal...we're getting General Zod.
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post #55 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by wadew1 View Post
I'm surprised this happened so quickly after RETURNS disappointed everyone.
I think it's tied into the ongoing rights battle they're having with the Siegel/Shuster families--they have to have a movie in development or something along those lines to help keep their claim on the character. It's been mentioned in previous articles here.
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post #56 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:42pm
I too really wonder about the Script. I'm not a Superman expert but I've seen the movies and read the comics on and off. The easiest thing to get right is the origin story and then things tend to drop off from there. Does anyone know if they are starting over like with Batman and making their own universe or not?
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post #57 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:43pm
I will certainly see this in IMAX 3D.
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post #58 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:43pm
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Originally Posted by Elisabeth Rappe View Post
Updated with Snyder's Twitter confirmation, and the villain reveal...we're getting General Zod.
Well, that's kind of boring.
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post #59 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:44pm
I have to say, if Zack Snyder is indeed Nolan's choice to direct Man of Steel, it makes me change my perception of him, at least somewhat. Snyder & Nolan's styles couldn't be more different, and my guess is that Nolan wants Snyder's eye for action and visual imagery, and Nolan's brother Jonathan and Goyer will be delivering a script that offset Snyder's weak point, which is storytelling. Nolan hasn't disappoint with a bad film yet, so I remain cautiously optimistic that this decision will pan out at the end. But we should expect some slow-mo at the very least because that's Snyder's style.
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post #60 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by Elisabeth Rappe View Post
Updated with Snyder's Twitter confirmation, and the villain reveal...we're getting General Zod.
I just did a happy dance and feel like I'm getting the vapours.

Fuuuuuuuuucking YES.



Oh and Jude Law Jude Law Jude Law Jude Law.
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post #61 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:49pm
Great choice. Now if only they could get rid of Goyer...
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post #62 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:51pm
I was hoping for Brainiac and lots of robot punching.
I don't think that fits into the more "realistic" Nolan DC movie verse, though.
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post #63 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:51pm
Elisabeth Rappe, Zod? That is the role that...Jon Hamm, should play!
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post #64 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post
Great choice. Now if only they could get rid of Goyer...
Goyer's fine long as someone's there to keep him on a short leash (a.l.a. Proyas, Del Toro, Nolan on TDK). Fully expect Nolan's relationship with Snyder to have the same resemblance., though Snyder will probably get more slack with the action.
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post #65 of 234
10/4/10 at 8:57pm
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I was hoping for Brainiac and lots of robot punching.
I don't think that fits into the more "realistic" Nolan DC movie verse, though.
Yeah, I think Nolan mentioned that he wants his Batman movies set off in their own little corner with cross-pollination with other DC characters.
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post #66 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:00pm
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Elisabeth Rappe, Zod? That is the role that...Jon Hamm, should play!
...That's actually genius, Fleed.
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post #67 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:06pm
Can't say I'm too ecstatic. He's certainly a competent filmmaker with a knack for the visual. His style tends to be too showy and on-the-nose, but I'm hoping Nolan and the material will rein him in and maybe even allow him to grow as a filmmaker.
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post #68 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:07pm
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...That's actually genius, Fleed.
Damn it it's true.
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post #69 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:16pm
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
Damn it it's true.
I know, right? I can just picture him being a suave but authoritative Kryptonian and absolutely nailing "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD."
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post #70 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:26pm
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I know, right? I can just picture him being a suave but authoritative Kryptonian and absolutely nailing "KNEEL BEFORE ZOD."
He'd be a real departure from Donners vision, more in line with some of the comics depictions.
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post #71 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:32pm
Jon Hamm as General Zod? It seems like Hamm is becoming the new Bruce Campbell. We can but dream though.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f26...-with-jon-hamm
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post #72 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:38pm
Considering that Nolan will be looking over his shoulder, this is a solid choice.

I'm no fan of Snyder, and I didn't particularly like any of his films, but the man can produce some interesting visuals. His storytelling skills aren't that great, but that's where Nolan comes in to guide, and a good (Nolan approved) script.

One thing is for sure though, he will do his best to stay true to the source material, and we'll finally see Superman doing some awesome shit, and not just lift heavy crap. Zod is also a good choice for the villain, I approve.

Still, I was rooting for Aronofsky, but I guess this is the safe pick. Oh well...

Edit: John Hamm as Zod? Hell no, give him Supes, he'd be awesome.
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post #73 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:40pm
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Originally Posted by Elisabeth Rappe View Post
Updated with Snyder's Twitter confirmation, and the villain reveal...we're getting General Zod.
So we can expect another retread of the Donner films? Jesus, try somthing new already.
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post #74 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:45pm
Yeah, everything about this is boring to me. Safe money all around. Took a chance with Singer, didn't work out, oh well. Was really hoping my Make a Wish Foundation Wish of a Bruce Timm/Brad Bird team up would go through in time.
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post #75 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:48pm
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He'd be a real departure from Donners vision, more in line with some of the comics depictions.
Good, as far as I'm concerned, they need to step away from Donner's sterile Krypton and all those damn 70's crystals and do something like the pulpy Krypton from Superman: Birthright(If you can find an image, I love you. The artist was Leinil Francis Yu)
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post #76 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:54pm
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Jon Hamm as General Zod? It seems like Hamm is becoming the new Bruce Campbell. We can but dream though.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f26...-with-jon-hamm
Hamm is actually a good actor.
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post #77 of 234
10/4/10 at 9:57pm
Cool, pulpy designs like these





http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gal...?image_id=9664

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gal...?image_id=9669
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post #78 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:01pm
I'm an unabashed fan of Snyder, but I do hope the subject matter and the guidance of Nolan lead him to reign in some of his lazier tendencies. He may not have nailed the depth and nuance of Watchmen with complete success, but he sure got the grandeur, and that's what Supes needs.
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post #79 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:06pm
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Good, as far as I'm concerned, they need to step away from Donner's sterile Krypton and all those damn 70's crystals and do something like the pulpy Krypton from Superman: Birthright(If you can find an image, I love you. The artist was Leinil Francis Yu)
These were the best I could do.

I love this as well.
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post #80 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:08pm
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These were the best I could do.

I love this as well.
Yeah, I just posted those(I can't seem to post images, so I put URLs to the pictures)
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post #81 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:13pm
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Looks too colorful. Not enough shiny white crystals and white wigs. I kid.

I agree though that they shouldn't recycle anything from the Donner/Singer films, and take the Kryptonian design in a completely different direction. If there's any Krypton in the film that is...
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post #82 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:18pm
Zod again? Come on. I mean, I love me some Zod, but A. it's been done B. it's just not interesting seeing Superman fight someone with the exact some powers as him and C. It's fucking been done. Bring in Brainiac already or at least Metallo.

Since Geoff Johns is DC's golden boy I'm betting it will bare some resemblance to his recent Secret Origins story, though that'll be a bit strange since Gary Frank draws Christopher Reeve and I'm guessing they want some distance from that interpretation.
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post #83 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:19pm
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I agree though that they shouldn't recycle anything from the Donner/Singer films
Even to the point of (and I can't quite believe I'm saying this) ditching the Williams main theme.
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post #84 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:21pm
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Even to the point of (and I can't quite believe I'm saying this) ditching the Williams main theme.
WHOA WHOA WHOA. Let's not start talking blasphemy here.
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post #85 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:22pm
I'm not worried about the visuals because while Nolan's films have a very rooted in reality look - there's also enough hint of stylization to remind you that this is a movie. I like that.

On the other hand you have Snyder's grand CG enhanced (I'm not saying it's a bad thing here) visual style. Should be very interesting to see how these two combine their best elements for this film. I'm looking forward to it!

And I seriously doubt this film will look anything remotely like Donner's or even Singer's.

And I hate that General Zod is the choice for villain. Just hate that.
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post #86 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:22pm
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
Zod again? Come on. I mean, I love me some Zod, but A. it's been done B. it's just not interesting seeing Superman fight someone with the exact some powers as him and C. It's fucking been done. Bring in Brainiac already.
Zod is a safe choice. Known enough, provides a good challenge for Superman and can provide a good deal of visual mayhem. I can live with that.

Much better than Lex fucking Luthor again.
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post #87 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:24pm
I love the Nolan/Snyder pairing and am pleasantly surprised by the positive reactions here! Although I was hoping for Darkseid as a villain.

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Even to the point of (and I can't quite believe I'm saying this) ditching the Williams main theme.
Yes please. The Star Trek reboot got a new theme and it's awesome. It's time to cut ties with Donner's film.
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post #88 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:24pm
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Even to the point of (and I can't quite believe I'm saying this) ditching the Williams main theme.
I actually agree with this. Hey, if Batman was able to ditch the equally iconic theme from Burton's film, then so can Supes.
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post #89 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:37pm
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Originally Posted by m. reporter View Post
Zod is a safe choice. Known enough, provides a good challenge for Superman and can provide a good deal of visual mayhem. I can live with that.

Much better than Lex fucking Luthor again.
A Lex Luthor who brings something with him like Metallo and Bizarro and isn't just interested in real estate and maybe puts on a crazy robo-suit at some point, would be more interesting than Zod. I like Lex Luthor the businessman, but Lex Luthor the uber genius scientist could be fun (as long as he doesn't have a nephew and isn't creating a nuclear man).
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post #90 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:43pm
Zod's pretty tired.
At this point I'd take Todd over Zod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZQXoPKxDWE

My Superman movie dream villains are two that will probably never show up on film: Bizarro and Mister Mxyzptlk
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post #91 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:45pm
Seriously - he's been in a single film thirty years ago and now he's 'tired' and 'uninteresting'?
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post #92 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:48pm
I think I get why they're using Zod as the villain. They want to bring in a Kryptonian villain to cause friction between Superman and Earth and sort of emphasize his otherness. I think that's how they're going to try and tap into the modern era. Bring in that "Obama is a secret muslim terrorist" theme. Kind of makes sense actually. Everybody on earth gets fed up with him and doesn't trust him, then he saves the day and proves everyone wrong. That sort of thing. Ties back to Superman's roots as an immigrant/orphan/outcast kind of character.
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post #93 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:48pm
Yes.
He was in one movie, but he's been over-referenced and over-exposed for years.
Try a different villain.
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post #94 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:49pm
This would be my Zod:


Well I do hope though they do have plans for villains being setup. I mean who didn't get excited when the Joker card was revealed at the end of Begins?

Oh and Star Trek didn't lose the theme, it popped up at the end, so I'm all for keeping at least the opening notes. In fact, the best part of Superman Returns was the opening credits. It pumped you up for something that never came.
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post #95 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:51pm
I could bet 1 in 10 in the audience the movie is going for have no clue who Zod is, literally no frame of reference or anything.
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post #96 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:52pm
I just went to Snyder's twitter feed, and I don't see shit about Zod. Did he delete it?
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post #97 of 234
10/4/10 at 10:59pm
No word on plot details or villains from his mouth on some interview I caught.
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post #98 of 234
10/4/10 at 11:00pm
The Heat Vision blog said Zod was the villain, not Snyder.
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post #99 of 234
10/4/10 at 11:00pm
Can we fucking stop with the John Hamm for Supes, please? It's retarded at this point.
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post #100 of 234
10/4/10 at 11:11pm
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Can we fucking stop with the John Hamm for Supes, please? It's retarded at this point.
Alright, Nathan Fillion then.
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