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post #251 of 266
10/16/10 at 7:37pm
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Originally Posted by Black_Dahlia View Post
I've never had a stranger who was homosexual come up to me and talk about how great jizz tastes and how they feel so much healthier after switching to cock exclusively, then produce articles, pictures, videos and other documentation to prove how nasty female genitalia really are, and then frown down upon me from their high horse because I still choose to eat pussy exclusively.
I'll volunteer to do this!
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post #252 of 266
10/16/10 at 7:38pm
Vegans get frikkin psychic powers, so fuck that.

And Howard? DOWN BOY!
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post #253 of 266
10/16/10 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by Black_Dahlia View Post
I've never had a stranger who was homosexual come up to me and talk about how great jizz tastes and how they feel so much healthier after switching to cock exclusively, then produce articles, pictures, videos and other documentation to prove how nasty female genitalia really are, and then frown down upon me from their high horse because I still choose to eat pussy exclusively.
I have yet to meet one of these fanatical vegans who is out to convert everyone.

But have you read this thread? It's really funny you would talk about vegans trying to push our lifestyle on other people after several pages of "VEGANS ARE STUPID, ANIMALS ARE TASTY"
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post #254 of 266
10/16/10 at 8:36pm
These fanatical vegans do exist, but I've mostly only encountered them at folk shows, so they're also crazy about a lot of things. Most notably, cars. These people HATE cars, love bikes. Lot of anarcho-primitivists.

In real life, away from that insane sub-culture, most vegans I've met aren't evangelists.
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post #255 of 266
10/17/10 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
These fanatical vegans do exist, but I've mostly only encountered them at folk shows, so they're also crazy about a lot of things. Most notably, cars. These people HATE cars, love bikes. Lot of anarcho-primitivists.

In real life, away from that insane sub-culture, most vegans I've met aren't evangelists.
Yeah, on second thought, my post was too dismissive. It's entirely possible that Black Dahlia has had vegans come up to him/her (forgive me for some gender confusion given the name and avatar contrasted with the post content) and give him/her a lecture. The thing is they're a tiny, fringe subset subset (just as there were, indeed, certain second-wave feminists who were in favor of women all going lesbian several decades ago). It's not like it's a vegan-wide mindset that the world should go vegan.

And Chris, when you hang out with primarily liberal academics in an urban area, I think there just tend to be more vegetarians. There's a pretty diverse mix of reasons, ranging from near-vegan concern for animal welfare to awareness of the economic and ethical issues involved to primarily health- and taste-based "I make exceptions when traveling abroad and for unusual cultural experiences to "I will end up dehydrated and hooked up to an IV due to an allergy/sensitivity to meat/seafood". But not one of them is the traditional "crunchy granola" hippie type.
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post #256 of 266
10/17/10 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
No one's forcing Americans to choke the stuff down, either. Like we've been saying in this thread, it's laziness and ignorance, mostly, and those things are certainly not uniquely American.

It's worse in the U.S. because, as you wrote, the fast food industry started here and our food culture has had more time to develop around it. Could it happen elsewhere? Sure - depends on how much the culture in question relies on fast food/convenience food as a dietary staple rather than as an occasional indulgence (as we used to do). But that just means the world's eventually going to have an obesity problem (among other fast food-related problems), rather than just the U.S. having an obesity problem.

So if your point is "but they're doing it, too," you may be right. But that just means we're worse off as a planet, so it's not exactly a conversation-stopper, if you know what I'm sayin.'
No doubt. And I certainly wasn't excusing ignorance or bad diets at all. Just the fact that the US tends to be a pinata in these discussions. As certain parts of the world become even more industrialized... India for example... pollution will increase as well. And I won't claim that because they do it, it's alright for the Western civilizations to return to a more-contaminating era. I just don't like the "us/U.S. VS them" attitudes.
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post #257 of 266
10/18/10 at 4:04pm
Interesting anecdote that relates to two things discussed in this thread.

My vegetarian-leaning friend who makes occasional exceptions for the sake of cultural experience, etc. is currently traveling in northern Europe. He's a grad student and, as such, doesn't have the cash to eat out much, but he made a point to go to at least one good restaurant in Oslo to try lutefisk. Loved it (particularly with bacon grease, potatoes, and peas or alternately with goat cheese and lefse).

If I recall correctly, he initially gave up meat after having some awful experiences with processed, canned meat in South America. And he loves lutefisk (which he describes as neither bony nor gelatinized, despite what he'd heard about poorly prepared lutefisk). So to the naysayers in this thread who have actually tried it - maybe you just had shitty lutefisk?
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post #258 of 266
10/18/10 at 4:14pm
Are there really roaming gangs of vegans threatening meat eaters*? I think veganism is an extreme response to a situation that doesn't need it but people are acting like it's the Bloods versus the Crips out there.

*Pretty unfair fight, really. Steroid laden red meat versus organic chickpeas, I know who'll be raging first.
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post #259 of 266
10/18/10 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
If I recall correctly, he initially gave up meat after having some awful experiences with processed, canned meat in South America. And he loves lutefisk (which he describes as neither bony nor gelatinized, despite what he'd heard about poorly prepared lutefisk). So to the naysayers in this thread who have actually tried it - maybe you just had shitty lutefisk?
*paging Judas Booth!*
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post #260 of 266
10/19/10 at 12:22am
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Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
My vegetarian-leaning friend who makes occasional exceptions for the sake of cultural experience, etc. is currently traveling in northern Europe. He's a grad student and, as such, doesn't have the cash to eat out much, but he made a point to go to at least one good restaurant in Oslo to try lutefisk. Loved it (particularly with bacon grease, potatoes, and peas or alternately with goat cheese and lefse).

If I recall correctly, he initially gave up meat after having some awful experiences with processed, canned meat in South America. And he loves lutefisk (which he describes as neither bony nor gelatinized, despite what he'd heard about poorly prepared lutefisk). So to the naysayers in this thread who have actually tried it - maybe you just had shitty lutefisk?
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Originally Posted by Martin S View Post
*paging Judas Booth!*
I'm forced to eat lutefisk once a year over the Christmas holidays. Why? Because of my in-laws. HE'S from Norway and SHE'S from Sweden.

He used to cook lutefisk and other vile Scandinavean concoctions for all of us. None of it was good, but the lutefisk was particularly nasty. My agreement with my wife was that I'd eat 3 bites of the gelatinous, bony shitfish and that was it. I'd motor down the bites as fast as I could and try and fill up on bland, boiled Swedish meatballs and potato sausage.

He doesn't make it anymore...now, we go out and eat it at a restaurant. I've now had lutefisk done right. It's edible but not something that I'd ever want to eat by choice. Again, I'll do 3 bites.
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post #261 of 266
10/19/10 at 1:22am
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
I'm forced to eat lutefisk once a year over the Christmas holidays. Why? Because of my in-laws. HE'S from Norway and SHE'S from Sweden.

He used to cook lutefisk and other vile Scandinavean concoctions for all of us. None of it was good, but the lutefisk was particularly nasty. My agreement with my wife was that I'd eat 3 bites of the gelatinous, bony shitfish and that was it. I'd motor down the bites as fast as I could and try and fill up on bland, boiled Swedish meatballs and potato sausage.

He doesn't make it anymore...now, we go out and eat it at a restaurant. I've now had lutefisk done right. It's edible but not something that I'd ever want to eat by choice. Again, I'll do 3 bites.
I'm pretty adventurous when it comes to meat, if prepared properly I'll give almost any part of an animal a try and I'll eat most animals as long as they can't be kept as pets.

...but after Anthony Bourdain taught me what lutefisk was in his Minnesota episode of No Reservations, I reckon you'd have to put a gun to my head to put that shit in my mouth. Blech.
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post #262 of 266
10/19/10 at 3:20am
I'll try anything once. I'd try lutefisk, what would I have to loose? At worst it would be so unpleasant that I'd have to vomit it back out. That's what, 30 seconds of discomfort? No big deal.
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post #263 of 266
10/19/10 at 8:53am
Cut that shit into nuggets, bread and deep fry them, and I'll eat a 20 piece (with sweet and sour and a diet coke please).
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post #264 of 266
10/19/10 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
No doubt. And I certainly wasn't excusing ignorance or bad diets at all. Just the fact that the US tends to be a pinata in these discussions. As certain parts of the world become even more industrialized... India for example... pollution will increase as well. And I won't claim that because they do it, it's alright for the Western civilizations to return to a more-contaminating era. I just don't like the "us/U.S. VS them" attitudes.
To be sure, give China some time and their factory farming systems will make the US's look like friggin Old MacDonald.
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post #265 of 266
10/19/10 at 9:53am
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
I'll try anything once. I'd try lutefisk, what would I have to loose? At worst it would be so unpleasant that I'd have to vomit it back out. That's what, 30 seconds of discomfort? No big deal.
Imagine eating that shit you hate every year.

You dread that 30 seconds of discomfort every single year. I guess it's like prison, where you have to give Big Bubba his 30 seconds of happiness else you'll be shanked. That's lutefisk for Judas Booth, and I understand.
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post #266 of 266
10/19/10 at 10:57am
Let me put it this way: eating lutefisk absolves you of all sins. That's the only reason that I can think of as to why anyone would willingly eat this shit.
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