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post #1 of 48
10/7/10 at 11:10am
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No more Portman.

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post #2 of 48
10/7/10 at 11:25am
Blah.

Also, the link on the left to this story leads to the Mad Max blu-ray review.
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post #3 of 48
10/7/10 at 11:25am
Right headline, but the article is the Mad Max giveaway.

Edit: Damn you, Ryan.
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post #4 of 48
10/7/10 at 11:29am
First non-Jackass 3D movie I think I can get behind.
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post #5 of 48
10/7/10 at 11:31am
All the actresses in the world and they pick Blandy McBoring
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post #6 of 48
10/7/10 at 11:40am
She looks like Michael Jackson.
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post #7 of 48
10/7/10 at 12:15pm
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She looks like Michael Jackson.
nose-job nose.
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post #8 of 48
10/7/10 at 12:20pm
Somehow I figured something like this was inevitable after the Oscar win.
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post #9 of 48
10/7/10 at 12:27pm
I can see this working, actually.
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post #10 of 48
10/7/10 at 12:53pm
I...I'm not really thrilled with this when the other option was Portman. If anything could really deflate my enthusiasm for this movie, this is it.

I'm still really looking forward to seeing new Cuaron, I just would like a more compelling actress at the wheel here.
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post #11 of 48
10/7/10 at 1:03pm
I'm still interested in the film, but to go from Portman to Bullock is a step backward. I've only ever liked Bullock in one movie...Demolition Man.
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post #12 of 48
10/7/10 at 1:16pm
More age appropriate to Downey for sure, but I would have rather had Portman, also. Still interested in the film, though. It's Cuaron!
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post #13 of 48
10/7/10 at 1:24pm
Awwww, fuck. Please fall through. Please fall through.
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post #14 of 48
10/7/10 at 1:28pm
Well my interest level just cratered.
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post #15 of 48
10/7/10 at 1:40pm
Anyone who thinks that the star of the film is going to be anyone other than Cuaron is mistaken. Bullock's a downgrade, for sure, but it looks like this movie needs a star to get made at all, so I'd rather it be Bullock than nothing.
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post #16 of 48
10/7/10 at 1:44pm
I've always liked Bullock in interviews, but rarely as an actress, so this is not the most interesting casting decision in my eyes, but she's capable and it's Cuaron, so I'll be seeing it regardless.
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post #17 of 48
10/7/10 at 2:48pm
welp waitin for dvd now
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post #18 of 48
10/7/10 at 3:04pm
Bullock is a definite upgrade from Portman.
I'm not seeing the problem here.
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post #19 of 48
10/7/10 at 4:03pm
hay guys bad boys 1 is better than 2
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post #20 of 48
10/7/10 at 4:42pm
The whole link-screw up this morning was courtesy of our back end. I fixed it earlier, but sorry for the weirdness this must have been.
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post #21 of 48
10/7/10 at 4:52pm
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The whole link-screw up this morning was courtesy of our back end. I fixed it earlier, but sorry for the weirdness this must have been.
I'm just sad that Sandra Bullock won't be the new Mad Max.
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post #22 of 48
10/7/10 at 5:18pm
Assuming it's going to be as po-faced as Children Of Men, for me, on balance, it's a straight swap. Portman still looks 16 and was always too young to convincingly play an astronaut, but she seems a good fit for Cuaron's more serious sensibilities. Bullock is a more well-rounded actress, a much bigger box office draw and a much better age to play an astronaut, and would have better chemistry with RDJ, but since her strength is more towards the lightweight and comic she seems an odd fit for a straght-faced Cuaron film.

On the off chance it's going to be a more fun take on surviving a fucked space station Bullock is by far the better choice.
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post #23 of 48
10/7/10 at 6:19pm
If she can drive a bus in Los Angeles successfully, she can pilot a space station.

EDIT: Besides, right after Julia Roberts won her Oscar, she began to do actual interesting films along with the narrative cellulite known as the chick flicks that made her name. For every America's Sweethearts and Runaway Bride we got a Closer and Ocean's Eleven. Bullock picked up the "mid-life housewife crisis" demographic and trudged forward with it - maybe now she's aiming for highbrow stuff to mix in with her bread and butter. And other mixtures of analogies and metaphors and, like, similes.
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post #24 of 48
10/7/10 at 6:26pm
But she's so laaaaaaaaaaaaaame.


Sorry. Just cannot stand her as an actress. At all.
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post #25 of 48
10/7/10 at 6:37pm
Ignoring the fact that she generally doesn't make movies I get excited about, I actually don't mind this change-up at all. But then, I'm not all that excited about Natalie Portman anyway, which would probably explain it.

As long as Cuaron sees something in Bullock and is confident with her abilities, I don't see anything wrong here. My interest is ever the same.
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post #26 of 48
10/8/10 at 12:25am
Has anyone read the script? Is the main character being a woman an integral part of the film? I'm asking because with all this casting trouble it seems to me like it would be easier to just change the sex of the protagonist. Like they did with Salt.
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post #27 of 48
10/8/10 at 1:35am
Can't stand the woman. A definite disappointment for me. I'd take almost anyone besides Bullock.
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post #28 of 48
10/8/10 at 1:46am
I'm not a fan of Bullock, but I have faith in Cauron. This is still on my must-see list, hopefully it doesn't run into more snags.
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post #29 of 48
10/8/10 at 6:25am
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I'm not a fan of Bullock, but I have faith in Cauron. This is still on my must-see list, hopefully it doesn't run into more snags.
I can totally see Bullock not being a prima donna though, and given she's now third or fourth choice perhaps she'll be easier to work with and take direction. Especially since she's outside of her comfort zone. I've tended to like her more in the serious roles she's played - particularly the one about the troubled cop. Shit film (which I can't now remember the title of) but I thought she was strong in it. She does vulnerable well.

Frankly I'd rather have Bullock over Jolie (who in my view completely lacks charisma on screen other than superficial visual impact) or Johanssen (who suffers the Di Caprio effect with me and doesn't have the option of facial hair to add cosmetic gravitas).
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post #30 of 48
10/8/10 at 1:02pm
Sad to see Portman depart, but Bullock is a great replacement assuming she agrees to take part in the film. She's the right age, and even though she's not my favorite actress or the most talented person in Hollywood, she's scrappy and I bet she'd dedicate herself to a fairly method portrayal of astro-courage. I could be wrong, but she seems like the kind of person who would do alot of research on NASA, interview female astronauts ETC all to prepare for the role.

If she has the star power to get the movie the kind of financing it needs to be done properly, then I see no reason she shouldn't be welcomed aboard as a member of Cuaron's crew
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post #31 of 48
10/8/10 at 2:54pm
I have a higher tolerance for a fair amount of Bullock's work than most, and if she's able to use her star power post-Academy Award/marriage fall-out to ensure some proper financing for the film, then I'm all for it. I don't agree that Portman, with her fierce appearance and thoughtful intelligence, would have been unable to carry the role of an astronaut, but I do think that Bullock has the build and the presense to make it somehow work.
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post #32 of 48
10/8/10 at 4:15pm
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I can totally see Bullock not being a prima donna though, and given she's now third or fourth choice perhaps she'll be easier to work with and take direction.
I don't keep up with the gossip, but Bullock seems like the least prima donna actress in all of Hollywood. Any actor who has enough humility and sense of humour to turn up and accept their Razzie is pretty damn cool in my book.

She knows she's not blessed with an abundance of talent like Blanchett or Naomi Watts, and she's not knockout pretty either like Portman or Cruz, but she works her ass off and that combination of vulnerability and, as Kate calls it, scrappiness, works really well for her when she's playing off of the leading man in a decent action film.
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post #33 of 48
10/8/10 at 4:22pm
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She knows she's not blessed with an abundance of talent like Blanchett or Naomi Watts, and she's not knockout pretty either like Portman or Cruz...
Does she know that? Really?
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post #34 of 48
10/8/10 at 6:16pm
Sentiment seems to be that this ain't so bad because hey, Bullock's got the pull to help ensure the movie gets made. But do you really want to see this movie get made with such an unexciting performer?

I grant that Cuaron very easily could draw something great from her, and that Cuaron is the real reason to see the film in the first place, but I'd prefer a more compelling actress in the role. Bullock rarely succeeds in engaging me-- literally, The Blind Side is one of the only times I can remember watching her and actually feeling compelled by her acting.

I'm happy to give Cuaron the benefit of the doubt since this is his show, here, but I would have liked a more robust actress in the lead, is all.
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post #35 of 48
10/8/10 at 6:56pm
Well, I really like Bullock. So yay me I guess. I also like Portman, but I don't see this as a step down at all.
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post #36 of 48
10/9/10 at 2:23pm
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Sentiment seems to be that this ain't so bad because hey, Bullock's got the pull to help ensure the movie gets made. But do you really want to see this movie get made with such an unexciting performer?

I grant that Cuaron very easily could draw something great from her, and that Cuaron is the real reason to see the film in the first place, but I'd prefer a more compelling actress in the role. Bullock rarely succeeds in engaging me-- literally, The Blind Side is one of the only times I can remember watching her and actually feeling compelled by her acting.

I'm happy to give Cuaron the benefit of the doubt since this is his show, here, but I would have liked a more robust actress in the lead, is all.
Overall I agree with you, especially about the capability of Cuaron to draw out a performance.

Thing is, personally, I wouldn't class Jolie as an exciting actress. She's done what maybe two interesting performances in her career. As for Portman, I totally get the love, but again without yet seeing Black Swan I don't yet buy her as a great actress. And I really want to see Black Swan.

Besides, she doesn't to my mind fit the profile of the character as trailed in the publicity. She still comes off to me as "young", hence my Di Caprio comment earlier. If the role skews young then I stand corrected, but the impression I get is that isn't the case.

I don't think Bullock is the premier actress around at the moment - for my money that's Cate Blanchett or Tilda Swinton, either of whom could have been good for this (were they trailed as possible candidates?). But I do think she's capable of a compelling performance, even if to date her CV is mostly average romantic froth.
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post #37 of 48
10/9/10 at 3:00pm
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I don't think Bullock is the premier actress around at the moment - for my money that's Cate Blanchett or Tilda Swinton, either of whom could have been good for this (were they trailed as possible candidates?). But I do think she's capable of a compelling performance, even if to date her CV is mostly average romantic froth.
I'll assume you're talking about acting ability, not box-office draw here.

Angelina Jolie, Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock probably the three biggest female names. I only marginally like Jolie out of those three.

Ideally, Cuaron could get the project going with Cate Blanchett, Jennifer Connelly, Julianne Moore or Uma Thruman.
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post #38 of 48
10/9/10 at 3:07pm
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I'll assume you're talking about acting ability, not box-office draw here.

Angelina Jolie, Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock probably the three biggest female names. I only marginally like Jolie out of those three.

Ideally, Cuaron could get the project going with Cate Blanchett, Jennifer Connelly, Julianne Moore or Uma Thruman.
Yep - ability not box office. Hence why I would argue Bullock isn't as bad a choice as people make out. She has box office draw, and for my money chops, though underused. Blanchett has pretty good name recognition I would have thought, but agree not at the same level as any of the other three.

As an aside, I totally only get the Jolie phenomenon as a derivative of celebrity wank that has taken over most of popular culture. Are there people who think she's actually much of an actress?
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post #39 of 48
10/9/10 at 4:12pm
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As an aside, I totally only get the Jolie phenomenon as a derivative of celebrity wank that has taken over most of popular culture. Are there people who think she's actually much of an actress?
I would argue Jolie has charisma. Something I find absent in Bullock.
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post #40 of 48
10/9/10 at 4:34pm
Bullock has charisma, she's a fairly adept comic actress (who happens to do mostly terrible comedies) but her capacity for "heavy-lifting" is in question.

I understand why she has detractors (I'm more ambivalent about her than anything else) but for some to intimate that Bullock has absolutely nothing going for her is, I think, kind of bullshit.

Just wait, and we'll see.
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post #41 of 48
10/9/10 at 5:01pm
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I understand why she has detractors (I'm more ambivalent about her than anything else) but for some to intimate that Bullock has absolutely nothing going for her is, I think, kind of bullshit
I honestly don't understand her appeal at all.
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post #42 of 48
10/9/10 at 5:17pm
Well, if you can't see it, you can't see it. I do, I just don't go along with it. She didn't become huge after SPEED for no reason, and she's fun in DEMOLITION MAN the year before. She has something, and it's her own thing.
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post #43 of 48
10/9/10 at 5:40pm
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I'm happy to give Cuaron the benefit of the doubt since this is his show, here, but I would have liked a more robust actress in the lead, is all.
I agree that there are actresses who would make it a more mouth-watering prospect, but Bullock just isn't a step down from Portman for me. I mean, Portman is a delight to look at, but she has gaps in her game and I don't think she's a premier league actress. Yet.


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Does she know that? Really?
To be honest I'm not a real doctor, or even a vet, but that's how I see her. She seems like the "real" actress most happy to take the piss out of herself this side of Kate Winslett. In fact, I think she's probably even the other side of Winslett. I don't think you get to that place unless you know yourself and you acknowledge your weaknesses. Which is also probably why she works her ass off to try to exceed those limits.


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... Tilda Swinton ...
Good call JHP1608. If it was me who had the role of finding an actress to fill the astro-nappies opposite RDJ then Tilda "The Greatest Thing About Burn After Reading That Doesn't Involve Welding" Swinton would be in first or second place. She has that great, icy, take-no-bullshit fierceness that would kick ass in a sci-fi role like this.
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post #44 of 48
10/9/10 at 5:56pm
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I would argue Jolie has charisma. Something I find absent in Bullock.
Totally a matter of taste, but as an actress I find her conspicuously absent charisma. Specifically if you define charisma as something ineffably attractive and compelling that isn't just down to looks or outre behaviour. No doubt she could burn the chrome off a bumper at fifteen paces when it comes to how sexually attractive she is, but as an actress, where what you look like or what you do in your private life is either taken for granted or is irrelevant, I think she's pretty flat.

Does anyone know the budget of Children of Men? I ask only because that wasn't filled to the brim with star power but it still got made. Wonder how far down the list Julianne Moore is - my vote for best current US actress.

The other interesting thing is if Bullock has been chosen for her star power over, some clearly say, her talent, is this the kind of film that's going to galvanise the Bullock fanbase? Does that matter to these kinds of decisions?
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post #45 of 48
10/9/10 at 6:03pm
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Good call JHP1608. If it was me who had the role of finding an actress to fill the astro-nappies opposite RDJ then Tilda "The Greatest Thing About Burn After Reading That Doesn't Involve Welding" Swinton would be in first or second place. She has that great, icy, take-no-bullshit fierceness that would kick ass in a sci-fi role like this.
For my money it depends on whether the role calls for any sensuality or sexuality. Swinton has it but it's very much at the more, shall we say, sophisticated end of the spectrum. Someone like Blanchett or Moore could do that, plus more "apple pie" sexy and match convince in a dramatic context. Again, totally depends on the script and any one of the three would be awesome choices.

The movie I was thinking about was called Murder by Numbers. Pretty shit, but I thought Bullock's turn successfully demonstrated a lot more complexity than her usual fluff, and the scene where she tries unsuccessfully to seduce the other cop hinted at a darker sexuality too.

Look at me - I'm one step away from writing Bullock erotic fan fic...Jesus.
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post #46 of 48
10/9/10 at 6:11pm
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For my money it depends on whether the role calls for any sensuality or sexuality. Swinton has it but it's very much at the more, shall we say, sophisticated end of the spectrum.
Young Adam disagrees with you.
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post #47 of 48
10/9/10 at 8:46pm
Law of averages would suggest that Sandra Bullock has to be in a movie that doesn't suck at some point, so maybe this will work? However, this movie sounds conceptually to be pretty reliant on the actors as well as Cuaron's direction, so I am no longer excited for it.
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post #48 of 48
10/9/10 at 9:05pm
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Young Adam disagrees with you.
Still feel her way of sexing things up is pretty edgy. Perhaps necessarily given she isn't conventionally pretty.

Either way, fair point.
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