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post #51 of 67
10/15/10 at 5:16pm
Lizard was a favorite of mine as a child. I don't even care if they go with the more modern versions of him where he is more 'lizardy'. I just hope he stays looking like a lizard for the climax. Morphing back and forth so the actor can spout dreary one liners was possibly the worst element of Venom.

What is it with purple pants in the Marvel Universe? And when will the movie universe embrace it?!

p.s. In 'Godzilla 2000' and 'Godzilla vs Megaguirus' he was a dark green. Nix on all of yee!
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post #52 of 67
10/15/10 at 5:26pm
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Molina might be 10% more well-known than Baker. That doesn't make him a movie star. Raimi clearly wasn't casting for recognition factor in either case, so it's a moot point.
QFT,

Molina was probably most recognized for his prologue in RAIDERS (by the masses, FRIDA for the cineasts) and "the retard from Wings" wasn't gonna bring in the crowds. Great casting, but not for name recog.
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post #53 of 67
10/15/10 at 5:52pm
I can't believe you guys have all forgotten the wave of Molina Fever that hit the states in the early oughts. Molina Molina Molina. That's all anyone could talk about.
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post #54 of 67
10/15/10 at 7:05pm
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I can't believe you guys have all forgotten the wave of Molina Fever that hit the states in the early oughts. Molina Molina Molina. That's all anyone could talk about.
TEAM ALF shirts were all the rage.
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post #55 of 67
10/16/10 at 4:45pm
It's unfortunate that SONY dragged their feet on Dr Lizard all through Raimi's time on the franchise, and now chooses him once Rami has left..
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post #56 of 67
10/17/10 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
Molina might be 10% more well-known than Baker. That doesn't make him a movie star. Raimi clearly wasn't casting for recognition factor in either case, so it's a moot point.
I'm really surprised there's even any debate about this. One guy's been on the radar for ages and the other's kinda been on the (geek) radar for the last few years. Big difference.

I never said anything close to "Molina is a movie star." The discussion's about which actor was higher profile, Molina or Baker (it's the former.) The status of the actor playing the antagonist in a summer tentpole is also hardly a "moot point" since it's the reason someone like Ifans - not Baker - is cast and why we're even having this discussion in the first place.
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post #57 of 67
10/17/10 at 6:08pm
Yes, but Raimi was clearly casting for suitability, and didn't care at all for fame. If he did, he would have gone for somebody much higher profile than Molina or Baker.

See Schumacher's Batman movies for examples.
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post #58 of 67
10/18/10 at 5:48am
Molina has his three minutes in RAIDERS over Baker. That's it. Seriously, go compare IMDb pages - Baker's been all over TV and smaller films since the early 90s. ANd there's no way that Raimi would have recast him had he stayed on and used the Lizard.
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post #59 of 67
10/18/10 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by Greg David View Post
Yes, but Raimi was clearly casting for suitability, and didn't care at all for fame. If he did, he would have gone for somebody much higher profile than Molina or Baker.

See Schumacher's Batman movies for examples.
When did Raimi not cast for suitability during his run on that franchise?

Molina wasn't the only actor age and look appropriate for that part. Obviously, there aren't many "movie stars" his age and build so there's more to it than that.

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Molina has his three minutes in RAIDERS over Baker. That's it. Seriously, go compare IMDb pages - Baker's been all over TV and smaller films since the early 90s. ANd there's no way that Raimi would have recast him had he stayed on and used the Lizard.
That's going a bit far.

I don't need to, 'cos I already know they've both worked a lot (I mentioned it already.)

Yeah, Raimi would've probably wanted to use him again, but I was just talking about who was a higher profile actor at the time of their casting. It's no coincidence Willem Dafoe was picked for the first movie.
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post #60 of 67
10/19/10 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Myers View Post
As I told ya three days ago, Ifans is Lizard. OWNAGE
To be fair, Myers87 called this a couple years ago. Even though he got the date wrong, he still owns us all.

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On a side note, I really look forward to the day Rain Dog cheers up about this movie. And I'm confident he will. It's just mildly depressing seeing such a cool Chewer be this adamantly negative about a project that is so completely on the right track thus far.
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post #61 of 67
10/19/10 at 2:27pm
I like how casual the Lizard appears in Myers's poster. He's just hanging out on the corner.
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post #62 of 67
10/19/10 at 2:30pm
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I like how casual the Lizard appears in Myers's poster. He's just hanging out on the corner.
With pen and paper in hand too.
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post #63 of 67
10/19/10 at 2:42pm
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With pen and paper in hand too.
Back off, man. He's a scientist.
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post #64 of 67
10/19/10 at 2:44pm
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Back off, man. He's a scientist.
Batman's a scientist.
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post #65 of 67
10/19/10 at 6:19pm
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I like how casual the Lizard appears in Myers's poster. He's just hanging out on the corner.
He's staring off into space, pensively, considering what his tragic life has become, completely unaware of the painful Spidey-boot to the Lizard-head he's about to receive. The poor guy just wanted to take notes on a sunny day in the Big Apple. As Phil noted, the first victim/villain in the Spideyverse...
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post #66 of 67
10/19/10 at 6:54pm
Thanks Litmus, I searched the myers thread for that very poster the other day and couldn't find it to save my life. So very, very awesome.
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post #67 of 67
10/19/10 at 6:56pm
It kind of makes Spider-Man look like the villain, terrorizing innocent, scholarly lizard-men from behind.
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