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post #101 of 126
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Originally Posted by t3cii View Post
Also, pretty presumptuous of you to think these women are miserable.
Sorry, should have made it clear. They're getting off on a woman LOOKING miserable. Whether she genuinely is or not is another matter and I would never assume that there aren't any women who are into it.

I would however, make an educated guess that far more of them are doing it to get more work (I'm very familiar with the feeling of looking at your 'will do' list and thinking 'what boundaries can I push to get more business') than are doing it because they think it's hot. Would I do anything that made me miserable just to make money? No. But you know what would be presumptuous? Assuming that everyone in the industry has the luxury to be that picky.

EDIT: This was mainly in response to your bit about how certain pornstars do certain things and have do's and don'ts. If you need work and all you're getting offered is stuff that's outside your comfort zone, it can be very tempting to be flexible (and in the sex industry, whatever section of it we're talking about, being flexible with your boundaries isn't great for you mentally which is why I don't do it). I don't wanna hijack this thread but if you want more detail I can explain what I mean by PM.
post #102 of 126
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Originally Posted by Cleo View Post
Sorry, should have made it clear. They're getting off on a woman LOOKING miserable. Whether she genuinely is or not is another matter and I would never assume that there aren't any women who are into it.

I would however, make an educated guess that far more of them are doing it to get more work (I'm very familiar with the feeling of looking at your 'will do' list and thinking 'what boundaries can I push to get more business') than are doing it because they think it's hot. Would I do anything that made me miserable just to make money? No. But you know what would be presumptuous? Assuming that everyone in the industry has the luxury to be that picky.
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post #103 of 126
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Originally Posted by Cleo View Post
Sorry, should have made it clear. They're getting off on a woman LOOKING miserable. Whether she genuinely is or not is another matter and I would never assume that there aren't any women who are into it.

I would however, make an educated guess that far more of them are doing it to get more work (I'm very familiar with the feeling of looking at your 'will do' list and thinking 'what boundaries can I push to get more business') than are doing it because they think it's hot. Would I do anything that made me miserable just to make money? No. But you know what would be presumptuous? Assuming that everyone in the industry has the luxury to be that picky.

EDIT: This was mainly in response to your bit about how certain pornstars do certain things and have do's and don'ts. If you need work and all you're getting offered is stuff that's outside your comfort zone, it can be very tempting to be flexible (and in the sex industry, whatever section of it we're talking about, being flexible with your boundaries isn't great for you mentally which is why I don't do it). I don't wanna hijack this thread but if you want more detail I can explain what I mean by PM.
No, I get what you mean.

Is gagging a thing, though? Like are there movies with that specific kink to them? I guess this is what I'm wondering. I know I've seen it, but I can't tell if that's the main purpose of the video, or the actress just happens to do that. It's almost like when I see actresses swearing in their movies. Are they doing it because that's just what they do, or they think that's what people want to see? Is there a demand for gagging?
post #104 of 126
Google gagging or gagging porn and all will be revealed. I recently, and quite by accident, caught a mercifully quick glimpse of a scene between a girl and what appeared to be a severely malformed, gender ambiguous dwarf of some kind; something out there for everyone.
post #105 of 126

When did "sperm" and "cunt" become verbs?

post #106 of 126

I count oral 'gagging' (and we're all talking about Sasha Grey here, right?) as the porn equivalent of a 'signature move'. It's a specialty, one she's mastered, and she wouldn't do it if it didn't sell.

post #107 of 126

Sasha Grey porn is the kind of porn I mute, and not because of "abuse" or gagging or whatnot. She just not enticing to listen to. If I were one of those porn actors I'd be like "Errr could you just stop cursing so much? I'm trying to fuck the shit out of your fucking asshole here!"

 

Still want to see The Girlfriend Experience though.

 

Porn where women are made to look like shit is popular I think because most guys are jerks and can't get away with humiliating their girlfriends or wives(or realdolls) in the same manner, but sure wouldn't mind it if they could. Personally, not my thing, though mascara tears look neat.

post #108 of 126
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post

Sasha Grey porn is the kind of porn I mute, and not because of "abuse" or gagging or whatnot. She just not enticing to listen to. If I were one of those porn actors I'd be like "Errr could you just stop cursing so much? I'm trying to fuck the shit out of your fucking asshole here!"

 

Still want to see The Girlfriend Experience though.

 

Porn where women are made to look like shit is popular I think because most guys are jerks and can't get away with humiliating their girlfriends or wives(or realdolls) in the same manner, but sure wouldn't mind it if they could. Personally, not my thing, though mascara tears look neat.


Even though I think she's fucking hot and I love the way she carries herself, Sasha Grey porn does absolutely nothing for me. It's her choice and she does it because it pays better but when I watch strangers fuck each other on camera I prefer some good manners.

 

But you really should watch The Girlfriend Experience. Not the easiest movie ever, even for Soderbergh in experimental mode, but she's surprisingly decent in it. She's even quite good in a couple of scenes. 

post #109 of 126

Is it just me, or has the term "MILF" lost all meaning these days as a video category/title key word? I'd say it is now synonymous with "starlet past her prime", only I've seen it so flagrantly used that age and/or child-bearing status doesn't even seem to come into the equation. I only say it out of observance, not due to any fetish. Nor because I want the presence of a kid's stroller just in frame for verification.


Edited by DARKMITE8 - 5/6/11 at 1:19pm
post #110 of 126

Woah...I didn't know it means past her prime now.  A dude called me a MILF the other day and while I wasn't flattered (it's sort of icky if you think about it) I didn't take it derogatorily.  Damn.  I would say Cougar has sort of changed meaning more to "past her prime and creepily staring at younguns who only want her for a sugar daddy and to teach them how to fuck properly for their age appropriate wife in 3 years".

post #111 of 126

I don't think we're talking 'real world' here, only the way the term has been co-opted in porn.

 

And I kind of don't want to live in a world where Brittany O'Connell has to be defined as a Woman Of A Certain Age.

post #112 of 126
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Originally Posted by Verber View Post

Woah...I didn't know it means past her prime now.  A dude called me a MILF the other day and while I wasn't flattered (it's sort of icky if you think about it) I didn't take it derogatorily.  Damn.  I would say Cougar has sort of changed meaning more to "past her prime and creepily staring at younguns who only want her for a sugar daddy and to teach them how to fuck properly for their age appropriate wife in 3 years".

I was referring to "the industry" and how they have co-opted the term. It's kinda meaningless in that context. It's almost as if there are only 3 star ages. "Teen" (legal of course), "non descript", and "MILF" in mainstream materials. And I've seen "MILF" applied to women who look college age to me.

 

You can feel as flattered or icky as you like. It's "complimentary" still IRL.
 

 

post #113 of 126

Ahhh. I knew it was porn related...but sort of thought it crossed the borders. And now I'm getting schooled in porn.  Fantastic. (not sarcasm, I'm a porn moron who has like 5 movies from the 80's bought because they were in the "female friendly" section)   Though I'm more relieved now. I neither look like a past her prime porn star nor a slut.  squee

post #114 of 126

Saw a video where they were like, you're a hot milf! And she said her age, and it was younger than me and I was like FUCK PORN.

post #115 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post

I've seen "MILF" applied to women who look college age to me.
 


Kids these days do get started with the baby making awful young.  They are just capitalizing on the market and societal norms.

 

post #116 of 126

I know, and photograph, a 21 year old MILF, who's had twins at a young age(like 18). True story.

 

The term is meaningless until they get 30+ in my opinion.

post #117 of 126
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post

I know, and photograph, a 21 year old MILF, who's had twins at a young age(like 18). True story.

 

The term is meaningless until they get 30+ in my opinion.


This has to be some sort of weird paradox.  You say there are pics which means it happened yet we see no pics so it must not have happened.

 

post #118 of 126

Vicky Vette is in her 40's, so the term MILF does apply to her.

post #119 of 126

it's funny...

 

I'm from Brazil and brazilian porn is almost a genre unto itself...

 

I asked about this topic to a friend of mine who works in the industry (he only does the lighting, so his stories are more tragic than interesting =P) and he said that here the marketers do just the opposite: they actually HIDE the fact that the woman's a mom (or even "older" - like 30+).

 

he even surprised me with the information that 3 of our most famous porn stars are actually mothers and that some of them are much older than they appear.

 

funny how these things vary from country to country...

post #120 of 126

Ok, serious question.  Who was the marketing genuis who started the "this porno is rated XXX" feature?

 

There is of course no real porno ratings board that decided is something is only double X.  So which PR person started putting a triple X rating on videos.

 

post #121 of 126

The gag-reel is normally incorporated into the film itself.

 

(sorry, just realised this thread is 3 pages long...seems I gagged myself!)

post #122 of 126
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post

I know, and photograph, a 21 year old MILF, who's had twins at a young age(like 18). True story.

 

The term is meaningless until they get 30+ in my opinion.



Yeah, it's an archetype. Like a librarian, nurse or maid.

post #123 of 126

Am I the only person ready to dance a fucking jig that female pubic hair has made a long-overdue return to modern mainstream pornography?

post #124 of 126

Don't really keep up with pornography, but I'm all for pubic hair as long as it's somewhat maintained.

post #125 of 126

Just noticed this the other day...but not in porn.

Down at the beach 1/4 seemed to be sporting 'spider's-legs' out of their thongs... Indeed a turning-point...

post #126 of 126
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Originally Posted by Graham View Post

Just noticed this the other day...but not in porn.

Down at the beach 1/4 seemed to be sporting 'spider's-legs' out of their thongs... Indeed a turning-point...


I'm going to be honest: if that's the case, then thongs need to go away. It's one or the other.

 

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