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post #51 of 126
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Originally Posted by Chris Myers View Post
Porn DVDs. Never bought one, so is there stuff like

- audio commentaries
- deleted scenes
- bloopers
- interviews
- making of
- gag reel
- subtitles and foreign language translations

?
yes there is.
post #52 of 126
I have a question. Why so few condoms? It's rare for them to be used for penetration and, as far as I can tell, unheard of for them to be used for oral. Are guys so easily distracted?

And yeah, I know everyone gets tested. But it only takes for one person to have a drunken one night stand with a stranger and they've got 3 months to pass whatever they catch along to their coworkers. Lovely.

EDIT: I'm not just complaining/judging, btw. Genuniely confused - because the majority of indoor prostitution is the complete opposite.
post #53 of 126
That topic came up in another thread and my answer there is the same here: Porn is fantasy, condoms are reality, no one wants to jerk off to reality. It's all about what the consumer wants. Until that changes, condoms in porn will be a rarity despite the risk.
post #54 of 126
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Originally Posted by Cleo View Post
I have a question. Why so few condoms? It's rare for them to be used for penetration and, as far as I can tell, unheard of for them to be used for oral. Are guys so easily distracted?
They were in a great deal of 90s porn.

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And yeah, I know everyone gets tested. But it only takes for one person to have a drunken one night stand with a stranger and they've got 3 months to pass whatever they catch along to their coworkers.
Nothing foolproof, but porn actors are required by law to test negative for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases within 30 days of going to work on a film.
post #55 of 126
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
Nothing foolproof, but porn actors are required by law to test negative for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases within 30 days of going to work on a film.
Are you sure about that? Last I heard, at least in California, there aren't any laws requiring regular testing, and the STD rate in the porn industry is actually higher than that of the prostitution industry in Nevada. Most of the 'big' studios (Vivid, Hustler, et al) do require regular testing as part of their work contracts, but the small 'independent' ones generally don't.
post #56 of 126
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Originally Posted by Cleo View Post
EDIT: I'm not just complaining/judging, btw. Genuniely confused - because the majority of indoor prostitution is the complete opposite.
Here's a Weird Question About Prostitution: What does indoor prostitution mean? Are "indoor prostitutes" call girls, as opposed to the "outdoor" street walkers?
post #57 of 126
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Originally Posted by bendrix View Post
I could tell you all about it, but my non-disclosure agreement forbids it.

Even better is Porn for the Blind.
Wait...Porn for the Blind...has to be a joke...right? Please tell me that isnt serious.
post #58 of 126
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Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
9) Name the exact time and date when American Pop Culture is willing to fully embrace pornography. I'm talking Jenna Haze on The Apprentice. I'm talking Sasha Grey actually starring in a mainstream film that people want to see.
Jenna Jameson has been a guest on Oprah. Doesn't get more mainstream than that.
post #59 of 126
Thread Starter 
Jenna Jameson is far from mainstream. She's stuck a toe in the waters a few time, but I'm talking about a fully recognized porn celeb.
post #60 of 126
Maybe Traci Lords, and possibly soon, Sasha Grey (good in The Girlfriend Experience, nigh unwatchable in the equally unwatchable Entourage).

Yeah, I would say Sasha Grey has the bigger chance of becoming the answer to your question if one does not currently exist.
post #61 of 126
Thread Starter 
Sasha Grey and Katie Morgan are trying. I just don't see them doing it yet.

Traci Lords is the harder sell on the matter, when you taken into account her checkered past with porn.
post #62 of 126
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Originally Posted by bendrix View Post
I could tell you all about it, but my non-disclosure agreement forbids it.

Even better is Porn for the Blind.
I just listened to the audio description of http://www.elvisrape.com. So fucking funny! Thanks, Bendrix. That link is the gift that keeps on giving.
post #63 of 126
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Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
Sasha Grey and Katie Morgan are trying. I just don't see them doing it yet.
You don't? I found that incredibly easy to "see." And it worked just fine for my evening session. Thank you for that.
post #64 of 126
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Originally Posted by bendrix View Post
All of the above.
I once caught a French dubbed version of an American film and I just didn't understand the dubbing of all the moans, etc. More distracting than anything else. I understand for the dialogue between scenes, but really...? Do people need moaning in their native language to get off? Do they really need "Oui Oui!" instead of "Yes yes!"
post #65 of 126
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Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
Are you sure about that? Last I heard, at least in California, there aren't any laws requiring regular testing, and the STD rate in the porn industry is actually higher than that of the prostitution industry in Nevada. Most of the 'big' studios (Vivid, Hustler, et al) do require regular testing as part of their work contracts, but the small 'independent' ones generally don't.
I got it from the Associated Press:

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California’s multibillion-dollar adult entertainment industry has been left reeling after another positive HIV test for an adult film performer; the revelation Tuesday (October 13th) led to two of the industry’s biggest companies (Wicked Pictures and Vivid Entertainment) shutting down production as a precaution. Neither the name nor the gender of the performer was released.

The actor was a patient of the Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation (AIM), a San Fernando Valley clinic for pornographic actors. Clinic spokeswoman Jennifer Miller told the Los Angeles Times that efforts are under way to notify individuals who may have had sexual contact with the actor, but Miller did not return calls or e-mail from The Associated Press on Tuesday. Last year, a woman tested positive for HIV immediately after making an adult film, and in 2004 an HIV outbreak affecting several actors spread panic in the industry and briefly shut down production at several California studios.

Los Angeles County public health officials and state occupational health officials have said the widespread lack of condom use on porn sets puts performers at risk for contracting HIV and other diseases, but adult film producers say viewers find them to be a turnoff. Porn actors are required by law to test negative for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases within 30 days of going to work on a film, but state workplace safety officials at Cal/OSHA are considering strengthening rules designed to prevent transmission of disease through bodily fluids to specify the use of condoms in the adult entertainment industry. Currently, the same laws that call on health care professionals to wear gloves and other protective barriers when dealing with patients applies to the adult film business, but the laws don’t make specific provisions for porn. AIDS Healthcare Foundation President Michael Weinstein said his organization has been advocating for a tightening of the rules, and the adult entertainment industry and AIM clinic would “do everything in its power to prevent us from knowing who was impacted.” Weinstein said the latest case is the ninth HIV-positive adult film star to be treated at the AIM clinic since the 2004 outbreak.

Chief Counsel for Cal/OSHA Amy Martin said the clinic has been uncooperative in providing state regulators with key information by citing a patient’s federal right to medical privacy. But the clinic has even refused to provide redacted copies of employment histories for infected actors, which would allow the state to investigate porn production companies without naming the sick patients, Martin said.
post #66 of 126
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Originally Posted by Chris Myers View Post
Porn DVDs. Never bought one, so is there stuff like

- audio commentaries
- deleted scenes
- bloopers
- interviews
- making of
- gag reel
- subtitles and foreign language translations

?
Gag reel.... lol
post #67 of 126
Would Mary Carey's public run for (some form of) office have any impact on bringing porn to the mainstream?
post #68 of 126
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Originally Posted by ZombieFever View Post
Would Mary Carey's public run for (some form of) office have any impact on bringing porn to the mainstream?
Only had she won.
post #69 of 126
Big Sausage Pizza = awesome
post #70 of 126
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Originally Posted by Tundro View Post
Gag reel.... lol
Glad I wasnt the only one that caught that.
post #71 of 126
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm View Post
Only had she won.
Exactly.
post #72 of 126
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
Here's a Weird Question About Prostitution: What does indoor prostitution mean? Are "indoor prostitutes" call girls, as opposed to the "outdoor" street walkers?
Pretty much yeah - though call girl is a bit of a useless term that means different things depending who you ask :P Indoor covers independents offering incall, outcall to houses and outcalls to hotels, agency employed workers offering the same, and brothel workers. Outdoor is on the street. I'm not saying outdoor workers don't use condoms, by the way, I just have absolutely zero experience or knowledge of that way of working so didn't want to assume
post #73 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
I once caught a French dubbed version of an American film and I just didn't understand the dubbing of all the moans, etc. More distracting than anything else. I understand for the dialogue between scenes, but really...? Do people need moaning in their native language to get off? Do they really need "Oui Oui!" instead of "Yes yes!"
There's a funny scene in Denys Arcand's "Jesus of Montreal" about a porn dubbing session where one of the actors doesn't show up, and a guy has to pull double duty. Good stuff.
post #74 of 126
Serious question: How is the online distribution business model feasible for material of this type?

The big film studios have the resources (both technical, financial, and legal) to try and stem the tide of piracy and protect their content. They can sue, and afford teams of people dedicated to finding pirated material online and getting it yanked.

I can only assume that adult websites do not have the resources required to effectively combat the theft of their intellectual property. Youtube cares enough to listen to the studios and yank offending videos when they complain but there are a host of non youtube videosharing sites out there though so I wonder how an adult website gets people to pay for it's content when that same content could be hosted and viewed for free on any number of websites across the net
post #75 of 126
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Originally Posted by Cleo View Post
I just have absolutely zero experience or knowledge of that way of working so didn't want to assume
Is this implying what I think it's implying? Not that it's any of my business.
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
getting it yanked.
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post #76 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Is this implying what I think it's implying? Not that it's any of my business.
Did you miss that thread?
post #77 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Is this implying what I think it's implying? Not that it's any of my business.
Cleo is an escort over in England.
post #78 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Is this implying what I think it's implying? Not that it's any of my business.

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LATE PASS!
post #79 of 126
That'll teach me to just dabble in this part of the forum.
post #80 of 126
Darkmite8,

I meant getting pirated content pulled or taken down
post #81 of 126
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Darkmite8,

I meant getting pirated content pulled or taken down
Don't spoil my "that's what SHE said" fun.
post #82 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Don't spoil my "that's what SHE said" fun.
OK, I was not trying to spoil anyone's fun, just wanted to make sure I was clear with my language.
post #83 of 126
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Originally Posted by Anderson View Post
12) Does necrophilia count as rape?
No.

I don't have any legal expertise but my understanding of rape is that most criminal law defines it in fairly specific terms. Technically, a woman can't commit rape as she doesn't possess a penis. Forcibly penetrating someone with a foreign object (dildo, bottle, etc.) without consent consitutes sexual assault but not actual rape. The penalty under the law for such a crime will be the same but the strict definition varies.
post #84 of 126
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
Serious question: How is the online distribution business model feasible for material of this type?

The big film studios have the resources (both technical, financial, and legal) to try and stem the tide of piracy and protect their content. They can sue, and afford teams of people dedicated to finding pirated material online and getting it yanked.

I can only assume that adult websites do not have the resources required to effectively combat the theft of their intellectual property. Youtube cares enough to listen to the studios and yank offending videos when they complain but there are a host of non youtube videosharing sites out there though so I wonder how an adult website gets people to pay for it's content when that same content could be hosted and viewed for free on any number of websites across the net
People still pay. A lot of websites are all part of the same group, and so you would buy a group pass.

Hell looking casually at some of the youporn-esque sites a lot of the groups upload truncated versions of their movies with their watermark on there, so they're at least aware of the fact a lot of their material is being pirated and watched for free.

At the moment it seems like they don't care, but videos are taken down all the time. I'm sure a time will come when they'll get an..ahem...tighter grip on things, but for now they're happy to co-exist.

I gather the move into HD is helping as well. A lot of sites are offering HD content, and you won't see those for free without torrenting them. It seems like that's something that's going to get a lot more people paying for it - though lord knows why. Nick Manning's caveman like features do not need to be seen in 1080p.

On that note, how much better would 'A Serbian Film' had been if Nick Manning was the star?
post #85 of 126
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Originally Posted by James View Post
People still pay. A lot of websites are all part of the same group, and so you would buy a group pass.

Hell looking casually at some of the youporn-esque sites a lot of the groups upload truncated versions of their movies with their watermark on there, so they're at least aware of the fact a lot of their material is being pirated and watched for free.

At the moment it seems like they don't care, but videos are taken down all the time. I'm sure a time will come when they'll get an..ahem...tighter grip on things, but for now they're happy to co-exist.

I gather the move into HD is helping as well. A lot of sites are offering HD content, and you won't see those for free without torrenting them. It seems like that's something that's going to get a lot more people paying for it - though lord knows why. Nick Manning's caveman like features do not need to be seen in 1080p.

On that note, how much better would 'A Serbian Film' had been if Nick Manning was the star?
Interesting! Good info to have, thanks, James. I am kind of surprised to learn that HD could be enough of a draw to make the economics workable, given that I gather we're finding out that the market generally doesn't care about picture quality or size as much as the studio's had hoped when they selected HD as 'the next big thing'

*what with NETFLIX INSTANT, or watching stuff on iPods ETC
post #86 of 126
13) Fake spun? Really?
14) Angle tricks are done all the time. Why bother?
post #87 of 126
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Originally Posted by bendrix View Post
Even better is Porn for the Blind.
This made my day. If anyone has a porn addiction, they should visit that site because it will surely cure them.

I am dying laughing at these. No expression. Just "One woman is touching the penis, one is bent over SUCKING the penis, (bored sigh) one woman is massaging her breasts while simultaneously eating a slice of pizza... Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, MORE reverse cowgirl, and the man finally comes to fruition."
post #88 of 126
15] Anyone else bothered by harsh "gagging" on film during oral?

I get a little sympathetic gag reflex myself in my throat and have to skip past.
post #89 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
15] Anyone else bothered by harsh "gagging" on film during oral?

I get a little sympathetic gag reflex myself in my throat and have to skip past.
I know!

I don't get it... it isn't endearing... it's embarrassing.
post #90 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
15] Anyone else bothered by harsh "gagging" on film during oral?

I get a little sympathetic gag reflex myself in my throat and have to skip past.
Yes! Thank you. I had a massive argument with an aspiring pornographer about exactly this. I don't believe most men enjoy stuff like this but because there's so much of it about, it gets bought, and then new people to the industry assume that's how it has to be done.
post #91 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
15] Anyone else bothered by harsh "gagging" on film during oral?

I get a little sympathetic gag reflex myself in my throat and have to skip past.
Not in a making me nauseous kind of way. Even when it's not used in the morally objectionable ways it usually is, I find it terribly distasteful. Instant turn off.
post #92 of 126
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Originally Posted by Cleo View Post
Yes! Thank you. I had a massive argument with an aspiring pornographer about exactly this. I don't believe most men enjoy stuff like this but because there's so much of it about, it gets bought, and then new people to the industry assume that's how it has to be done.
I'm all about enthusiasm, but not if it means puncturing through the back of the girl's head like an ALIEN flick or Itchy & Scratchy cartoon. ANd I'm all about moisture, but not if it's vomit. It's hard enough to watch when the girl's initiating it (like I said, sympathetic gagger here), but when a guy is pile driving her skull onto himself with his hand on the back of her head/neck, it borders on mean.

I have a sore throat just thinking about it.
post #93 of 126
Bigger turn off: out of sync audio, or a smoke detector beeping for new batteries in the background?
post #94 of 126
Gagging looks really grotesque and mean, but it's an extension of rough sex, and some people simply dig that stuff. When it gets to the puking and all that, well, I think that shit is very telling about the fantasy lives, and perhaps concurrently indicative of the personal lives and psychological makeup of the men who get off on it.

That said, a kink or a fantasy isn't harmful until it is. So there's that.
post #95 of 126
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post
Gagging looks really grotesque and mean, but it's an extension of rough sex, and some people simply dig that stuff. When it gets to the puking and all that, well, I think that shit is very telling about the fantasy lives, and perhaps concurrently indicative of the personal lives and psychological makeup of the men who get off on it.

That said, a kink or a fantasy isn't harmful until it is. So there's that.
Different strokes/chokes for different folks, I s'pose.

Don't get me wrong, a little rough play or aggressive bedroom bevavior is fine in my book. Seeing someone nearly lose their lunch deliberately and repeatedly is something I can't handle. Course, I'm getting old. I can't ride rollercoasters or planes anymore without Dramamine.
post #96 of 126
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
Different strokes/chokes for different folks, I s'pose.
My problem with it isn't so much that it exists - there's porn for every different taste and that's a good thing, so long as it's legal and consenting then I'm fine with it. My problem is it's not seen as a niche thing so much, it's everywhere. A lot of men who watch a lot of porn and don't get laid all that often don't realise that a blowjob doesn't have to include thrusting all the way into a lady's throat and making her gag.

I know porn is a fantasy and guys have the right to see what they enjoy, but from talking to a lot of men about this stuff I'm getting the impression that the consumers are very bad at figuring out what they actually want and will just buy whatever they're told they should enjoy - and then they take those ideas home to their wives/girlfriends/prostitutes.

Throat fucking/gagging should be presented as a niche kinky thing, not "this is how you should expect things to be". Plus it's fucked up - sorry if you like it, but I'm quite comfortable judging guys who get off on seeing a woman miserable :/
post #97 of 126
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Originally Posted by Cleo View Post
My problem with it isn't so much that it exists - there's porn for every different taste and that's a good thing, so long as it's legal and consenting then I'm fine with it. My problem is it's not seen as a niche thing so much, it's everywhere. A lot of men who watch a lot of porn and don't get laid all that often don't realise that a blowjob doesn't have to include thrusting all the way into a lady's throat and making her gag.

I know porn is a fantasy and guys have the right to see what they enjoy, but from talking to a lot of men about this stuff I'm getting the impression that the consumers are very bad at figuring out what they actually want and will just buy whatever they're told they should enjoy - and then they take those ideas home to their wives/girlfriends/prostitutes.

Throat fucking/gagging should be presented as a niche kinky thing, not "this is how you should expect things to be". Plus it's fucked up - sorry if you like it, but I'm quite comfortable judging guys who get off on seeing a woman miserable :/
Doesn't it come down to the actress herself? It's not as if they're all doing it.

Also, pretty presumptuous of you to think these women are miserable.
post #98 of 126
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Originally Posted by t3cii View Post
Doesn't it come down to the actress herself? It's not as if they're all doing it.
They either do the deed or they don't get paid.
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Also, pretty presumptuous of you to think these women are miserable.
No, it isn't.
post #99 of 126
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Originally Posted by Jared Melton View Post
They either do the deed or they don't get paid.
Says who? This is what I'm getting at. Is it a matter of "they either do it or they don't get paid" or "this is something that particular porn stars do"? You know, there are many different types of porn out there, and many different types of porn star. Certain girls (and guys) do different things. Porn is often like a check list of things for the porn star to do. They almost always culminate in a blow job. Sure, I've seen porn where the girl will gag on the guys dick. I'm not into it, but I find that it's almost never the sole purpose of the movie. I'm also not so sure it's a case of the director demanding his actress do something she doesn't want to do. I think most porn stars are up front about what they will or will not perform, so it shouldn't be a case of them "doing it or they don't get paid". If she (or he) doesn't want to do it, there's countless other porn movies out there for them to star in. If they're smart, they can set themselves up in a good situation where they have control of their product, and can do whatever they want to do and make a ton of money from it.

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I know porn is a fantasy and guys have the right to see what they enjoy, but from talking to a lot of men about this stuff I'm getting the impression that the consumers are very bad at figuring out what they actually want
I wanted to go back to this comment. I think there is some truth to it, but I think it might be simpler than that. I think it's more about the consumers not being very particular about what they want to watch. Some porn out there is really specific and appeals to a certain.....demographic? Is that the word? But I think a lot of people aren't that specific, and will watch anything they can find, to a certain extent.
post #100 of 126
That's not how low-end straight porn works.
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