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Horror make-up artist arrested for corrupting morals in Canada

post #1 of 20
10/14/10 at 10:16pm
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For those who believe Canada is some kind of leftist paradise:

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Gory films artist: 'I'm not guilty'

Thu Oct 14, 12:20 AM

By Pierre Saint-Arnaud, The Canadian Press
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MONTREAL - It was like a scene from a Wes Craven movie Wednesday outside the Montreal courthouse.

There were about 20 demonstrators, dressed as ghouls and zombies, around the building to protest criminal charges being laid against a maker of gory films.

Remy Couture requested a jury trial and pleaded not guilty to charges of moral corruption and distributing obscene material, laid under Section 163 of the Criminal Code.

Police say they arrested Couture after international complaints about the extremely gruesome and realistic-looking violence on his website. That site,www.innerdepravity.com, is temporarily shut down.

But Couture calls the case a disgrace.

"I believe it's a waste of time. A waste of time for me, and for society," he said Wednesday.

"It's a waste of money, too. Because I'm not a criminal. I have no record. I'm a special-effects artist. . .

"I find this a bit of an embarrassment for Quebec, that this time wouldn't be spent on real cases. But they're going ahead."

He said his only crime is using fake blood, latex and silicone to help tell disturbing stories.

He has in the past scoffed at attempts to draw a link between gory films and real-life violence; he has noted that millions of people watch those movies without becoming killers, while a simple Beatles song (Helter Skelter) was cited as an inspiration for the Manson family murders.

Couture's case has drawn thousands of supporters to an online petition and to his own personal website.

Some of those people came out to express their support in person Wednesday.

One woman painted as a zombie said she wasn't even a fan of horror films but felt it important to fight for Couture's right to make them.

Another woman with a mock facial wound said, "It's censorship," as fake blood oozed from her lips.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1.../film_too_gory
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post #2 of 20
10/18/10 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by The Alexor View Post
For those who believe Canada is some kind of leftist paradise:



http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1.../film_too_gory
You know, that story could operate as a decent framing device for a good horror movie.
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post #3 of 20
10/18/10 at 12:16pm
That's a sad story, I'm in a state of disbelief that Canada would go after horror films.
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post #4 of 20
10/18/10 at 12:17pm
Ah yeah. That story. I met the guy at a party once. Decent guy.

The prosecution is gonna get destroyed if this gets further...
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post #5 of 20
10/18/10 at 12:22pm
And by the way, the local cops (stupidly) acted upon pressure by Interpol. The law about moral corruption is full of grey areas, and the cops took advantage of it.

It's still is retarded beyond belief.
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post #6 of 20
10/18/10 at 5:07pm
What the holy hell? Interpol was involved with this?

Christ...
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post #7 of 20
10/18/10 at 5:16pm
They pressured the local police to act on it. Go figure.
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post #8 of 20
10/18/10 at 5:20pm
Stupid. Just plain stupid. Having looked at his portfolio I can see why people would be disturbed but to arrest him? Bah.
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post #9 of 20
10/18/10 at 10:20pm
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The prosecution is gonna get destroyed if this gets further...
That's the worst part of it all. The manpower, time and money wasted on this bullshit could've been used for something real.
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post #10 of 20
10/18/10 at 11:36pm
Unfortunately, there are lots of outdated, largely indefensible sections in the Canadian criminal code, and I consider S. 163 to be one of them. For example, subsection b of the same section says that anyone commits an offence who "makes, prints, publishes, distributes, sells or has in his possession for the purpose of publication, distribution or circulation a crime comic." Essentially DC Comics could be prosecuted for publishing Batman. The reason that such sections aren't altered or removed is because there is no political pressure to do so, while the legislature has tons of pressure on it to deal with other, more politically sensitive issues.

I am really not sure why the police would go forward with an arrest, or why the Crown prosecutors would feel they have a good chance of conviction; my guess is that enough squeaky wheels complained about this website to the right people and made it into a local political issue. I agree with Martin that the prosecution will have a tough time getting a conviction, since S.2(b) of the Canadian Charter provides everyone "freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication"

In order to override that right it would need to be demonstrably justified that doing so would be in the best interest of society, with emphasis on the fact that we are a free and democratic country.

I agree with the Alexor that this appears to be a likely waste of taxpayer money. The silver lining I see is that such gross infringement on freedom of expression is unlikely to be upheld. The head of the Supreme Court of Canada is going to be speaking to my law school class in a few weeks, maybe if I muster the courage I'll ask her about this case.
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post #11 of 20
10/18/10 at 11:42pm
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Originally Posted by Graynadian View Post
The head of the Supreme Court of Canada is going to be speaking to my law school class in a few weeks, maybe if I muster the courage I'll ask her about this case.
Post back if you do!
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post #12 of 20
10/18/10 at 11:52pm
I certainly will, however seeing how the issue hasn't even gone to trial, let alone been appealed, I doubt she would be willing to speak on it at this point. I'll talk to my constitutional and/or criminal law professor(s) and see what they say about the appropriateness of such a question.
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post #13 of 20
10/18/10 at 11:59pm
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I certainly will, however seeing how the issue hasn't even gone to trial, let alone been appealed, I doubt she would be willing to speak on it at this point. I'll talk to my constitutional and/or criminal law professor(s) and see what they say about the appropriateness of such a question.
Pussy.
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post #14 of 20
10/19/10 at 12:00am
Hey, Canada - that sounds like the kind of stupid shit America pulls. Knock it off, or I'll have to flee this Teabagging hellhole for someplace in Europe.

Or Singapore.
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post #15 of 20
10/19/10 at 2:46am
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Originally Posted by The Alexor View Post
Pussy.
Although historically a force for good, Chief Justice McLachlin has a well developed Force Grip and will not hesitate to use it. I can live with your cruel jabs.
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post #16 of 20
10/19/10 at 2:58am
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Or Singapore.
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post #17 of 20
10/19/10 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by Graynadian View Post
Although historically a force for good, Chief Justice McLachlin has a well developed Force Grip and will not hesitate to use it. I can live with your cruel jabs.
Alright then. At least ask her if she received "the pictures" and if "my problem" will go away.
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post #18 of 20
10/19/10 at 11:27am
Well, if it helps restore our lefty tendencies in the eyes of the world, Calgary elected a liberal Muslim Mayor last night.
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post #19 of 20
10/19/10 at 11:34am
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Well, if it helps restore our lefty tendencies in the eyes of the world, Calgary elected a liberal Muslim Mayor last night.
That's pretty cool. I doubt this would happen in Montréal.
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post #20 of 20
10/20/10 at 3:45pm
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Alright then. At least ask her if she received "the pictures" and if "my problem" will go away.
Are you sure? I think she would find your lack of faith disturbing.
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