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post #51 of 69
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Originally Posted by MrTyres View Post
But they are analogous. Both places are private enterprises which have a right to regulate its customers within a publicly posted, proscribed manner.
One's wearing a suit and tie to a restaurant for one meal, and the other is willfully disobeying prescribed rules that have been laid down for the community of which you are a part

They are only analogous in the most vaguely technical way.
post #52 of 69
I let vets* punch me in the dick for no reason. Because I love my country.


* Not veterinarians.
post #53 of 69
The thing with analogies is that the two items for comparison are normally nothing alike. But they share a relationship between a second set. In this case

Restaurant 560:shorts::Chud.com/forum:facepalm and citizenkaning

Both are forbidden.
post #54 of 69
I got a 780 verbal on the SATS, and did the verbal perfectly on the pretest (I out thought myself on one analogy about the nape of the neck on the final)

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree
post #55 of 69
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree

That is the third time you have used that phrase in this thread alone. And you are using it increasingly in your other posts. I wrote about this earlier, but then deleted it because you were getting hit in other threads. I think you are trying to cover yourself so you don't look argumentative, but it stops conversation. It announces that there is nothing more to be said, and if someone says something, you will not be swayed, or worse not even listen. Conversation is an exchange, not two people just saying things out loud. If you don't want to continue a conversation, why continue posting?

As for the other, congrats. I can see your verbal reasoning skills, as measured by College Board, inc., should allow you to see that the comparison is valid.
post #56 of 69
Why do you guys engage in discourse with someone who is either a) suffering from some form of mental illness that renders normal discourse impossible b) not a real person or c) both?
post #57 of 69
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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB View Post
Why do you guys engage in discourse with someone who is either a) suffering from some form of mental illness that renders normal discourse impossible b) not a real person or c) both?
Are we talking about Kate or Anderson?
post #58 of 69
Anderson is as real as the rat creature creeping up on your back, yo.
post #59 of 69
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Originally Posted by MrTyres View Post
That is the third time you have used that phrase in this thread alone. And you are using it increasingly in your other posts. I wrote about this earlier, but then deleted it because you were getting hit in other threads. I think you are trying to cover yourself so you don't look argumentative, but it stops conversation. It announces that there is nothing more to be said, and if someone says something, you will not be swayed, or worse not even listen. Conversation is an exchange, not two people just saying things out loud. If you don't want to continue a conversation, why continue posting?

As for the other, congrats. I can see your verbal reasoning skills, as measured by College Board, inc., should allow you to see that the comparison is valid.
In various debates, I reach a certain point where I feel that the difference of opinion cannot be bridged with my reasoning skills, and I've explained myself to the best of my ability. I've gotten myself into trouble in the past on CHUD by getting into over heated arguments, and so "agree to disagree" is my way of respectfully bowing out of a debate when I feel my participation in it would no longer be conducive to a healthy discourse
post #60 of 69
This is the first I'm hearing that dress codes don't apply to veterans. Is that one of those unspoken rules everyone is just supposed to know about?
post #61 of 69
I bet McDonald's wouldn't turn them away if they wanted to get some McNuggets.

And besides, isn't Wolfgang Puck Austrian? Would you let a bunch of people one of whom may have taken a shot at your dad eat at your restaurant?
post #62 of 69
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Originally Posted by stelios View Post
I bet McDonald's wouldn't turn them away if they wanted to get some McNuggets.
Army uniforms are actually mandatory over here if you want some McNuggetSS. That´s how they are produced:
post #63 of 69
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
In various debates, I reach a certain point where I feel that the difference of opinion cannot be bridged with my reasoning skills, and I've explained myself to the best of my ability. I've gotten myself into trouble in the past on CHUD by getting into over heated arguments, and so "agree to disagree" is my way of respectfully bowing out of a debate when I feel my participation in it would no longer be conducive to a healthy discourse
Yeah but then you don't... you know... BOW out...

At all.

Ever.

ETA - FWIW, I blame the group's coordinator/tour guide. This is so completely her bad. You have a group of WWII veterans who will need a nice meal at some point during their visit? You are responsible for making that happen. That's your job. Set up the reservation. Communicate dress code to your guests. Make sure everything goes smoothly.

OR encourage your distinguished and honored group of veterans to just WALK IN to one of the more upscale restaurants in the city and, whenever they enforce their WELL KNOWN dress code, just bitch and whine about the grave injustice and how slighted the whole group feels whenever the Dallas Morning News comes calling.
post #64 of 69
I'm a veteran of Enduring Freedom and have the utmost respect for these men. That being said, I know how to make a phone call and makes sure I'm dressed and prepared for whatever activity I choose to do whenever I leave the house. I can't see any problem with a restaurant not wanting to turn itself into the VFW for crying out loud. The only reason we're talking about this is because old people are really good at complaining.
post #65 of 69
But in this case, the old people didn't really complain. Everyone else did.
post #66 of 69
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Originally Posted by Scruff View Post
I'm a veteran of Enduring Freedom and have the utmost respect for these men. That being said, I know how to make a phone call and makes sure I'm dressed and prepared for whatever activity I choose to do whenever I leave the house. I can't see any problem with a restaurant not wanting to turn itself into the VFW for crying out loud. The only reason we're talking about this is because old people are really good at complaining.
What's hilarious is that the old people in this story did 0% of the complaining.
post #67 of 69
Wait... some old people complained. The vet was in his late eighties. His daughter, the complainer, is in her 60s. Damn Baby Boomers!
post #68 of 69
I guess I'm a sentimental softie. These brave old gentlemen who got their asses bombed and shot at so we could all be born and whatnot could wear pasties and a bedazzled thong and I would serve them. Greatest Generation's got what, 5-10 years left? Let them wear what they want. Send me the check.
post #69 of 69
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
But in this case, the old people didn't really complain. Everyone else did.
Apparently you've never gone out to eat with old people.

On a side note - every veteran I ever met was a war hero who killed nazis or single-handedly fought off a platoon of Vietcong. They're all rangers, airborne, special forces, green beret, or navy seals. Heck, I was alone behind enemy lines and took out a squad of Al-Qaeda with nothing but some chewing gum and swiss army knife. Believe it - because you read it on the internet!
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