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Unbelievable. It's almost a small step forward for nerd-kind.

With a genuine auteur taking the reins of a populist commercial franchise, let's hope the result is more Batman '89 than Alien: Resurrection.
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Screw cynicism, bring it on, Aronofsky! Get us a good Wolverine movie.
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Oh well. Let's hope for the best.
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This is a terrific news, and it reunites Aronofsky with Jackman after The Fountain. I hope the end result will turn out better than Ang Lee's Hulk, which an art house director tackled a popular superhero property and failed to score with the general audience.
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This should be interesting.
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All I can think is: I wonder what film Aronofsky will get to make after he does this?
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Nothing could get me excited about "Wolverine 2: Drinking to Remember." I'm frankly embarrassed for Aronofsky.
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I gotta say, Elisabeth Rappe's writing is so far making me go "Devin who?"
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Really curious to what Aronofsky does with this film. There are just so many compelling factors here. First, there's whatever weird bullshit maneuevers that FOX will pull in order to ensure their precious franchise stay profitable (limited artistic concerns here). But then there's the director, who has never made a mainstream genre flick, is in need of a hit to burnish his credentials (at least to certain important studio people who greenlight films and are responsible for career longevity,) and who has circled big franchises only to try to pull them into daringly noncommercial territory and only then to leave the project. The mainstream Aronofsky flick has been, up until this point, been completely hypothetical. That unknown has me very intrigued.
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I'm calling it now: Wolverine and Sabretooth go ass-to ass.
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This is another movie that should be really, really easy to get right. You just have to keep it simple. Wolverine fights ninjas and has sex with an asian woman. The asian woman dies and Wolverine kills more ninjas.

Hopefully FOX doesn't insist on loading the movie with pointless mutant cameos and God awful cgi.
Let the movie stand on it's own. Don't try to fit it into the crappy X-MEN MOVIE VERSE.
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I gotta say, Elisabeth Rappe's writing is so far making me go "Devin who?"
Yeah, she's making me optimistic about this site's future.
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So should I go watch Wolverine now?
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Quit your naysaying this is going to be great, and it's going to be great for Arronofsky's career (assuming it's not a bomb, which is unlikely given the property) which means bigger budgets for his other stuff.
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So should I go watch Wolverine now?
No! Just watch the Weapon X sequence of X2, and pretend that is Wolverine. It's better (and more accurate to the comics) than the whole goddamn movie.
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So should I go watch Wolverine now?
Probably not. I mean, if you weren't compelled to see it at this point, this news won't really change things. I'm sure you've read the original comic this movie is based on and it has nothing to do with the first film.
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Yeah, she's making me optimistic about this site's future.
Thanks! Considering the "woe is the industry" debate that's going on Twitter right now, I just feel terrible about my place in this world.

But if you guys are happy, I'm happy. You are a fine bunch of readers. No joke!
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I didn't read the comic. I wasn't a Marvel guy in the 80s. And Wolverine's on the DVR in HD from a recent HBO airing. I thought the title sequence through time was pretty cool...
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Wolverine's a horrible movie, but on occasion it's good for some unintentional laughter.
"His brain will heal....BUT HIS MEMORIES WON'T GROW BACK." and the electric guitar riff when Wolverine walks away from an explosion like a fashion model always get me.
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Out of morbid curiosity, I added Wolverine to my Netflix queue. It froze in my blu-ray player around the halfway point. I didn't mind at all. In fact, I was relieved.

Is Fox going to just pretend that that last Wolvie film didn't happen and just chug along with Vaughn and Aranofsky's franchise entries? I think that would probably be the best idea all around. Has anyone figured out yet if Vaughn's film is even a reboot?
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I didn't read the comic. I wasn't a Marvel guy in the 80s. And Wolverine's on the DVR in HD from a recent HBO airing. I thought the title sequence through time was pretty cool...
You're right, that part is cool. The crap completely overwhelmed my memory of that.

Really, when it comes to Fox adaptations, you're better off having not read any comics. Maybe you'll dig it. It's certainly an original Wolverine story.
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
I didn't read the comic. I wasn't a Marvel guy in the 80s. And Wolverine's on the DVR in HD from a recent HBO airing. I thought the title sequence through time was pretty cool...
Fair warning if you do decide watch it: that's the best part of the movie.
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About the only kick I got out of X-Men Origins: Wolverine was seeing fairly amusing onscreen versions of Sabretooth, The Blob, Gambit and (kinda) Deadpool. Also, Dominick Monoghan was good in a small role. The rest of the film is big time shit. The origin story is fine in that it's brisk but... fucking bone claws.
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About the only kick I got out of X-Men Origins: Wolverine was seeing fairly amusing onscreen versions of Sabretooth, The Blob, Gambit and (kinda) Deadpool. Also, Dominick Monoghan was good in a small role. The rest of the film is big time shit. The origin story is fine in that it's brisk but... fucking bone claws.
Bone claws, I could live with. It was the "I'm volunteering for this!" and amnesia bullets garbage that still makes my blood boil like ... well ... a really irate fangirl with not much of a social life.
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Originally Posted by Elisabeth Rappe View Post
No! Just watch the Weapon X sequence of X2, and pretend that is Wolverine. It's better (and more accurate to the comics) than the whole goddamn movie.
Yeah, Singer got Weapon X right with that brief sequence, and I thought Wolverine would've just used that footage but made it 100000 times awesome. As it turns out, the movie was totally different and lousy at that. I'm hoping Aronofsky will right the ship, but my concern is that this director has never directed a big-budget action movie before, much less one based on a superhero; it could be good, or really, really awful.
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You realize they made a complete mess of an X-men movie instead of a solo Wolverine picture fairly early. Then it just gets worse and worse.
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About the best thing I can say about Wolverine is: It's no Daredevil!
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Bone claws, I could live with. It was the "I'm volunteering for this!" and amnesia bullets garbage that still makes my blood boil like ... well ... a really irate fangirl with not much of a social life.
Bone claws is when things start to turn south. By the time the rest of the stuff you mentioned rolls around, I feel like the movie's already dragged me around and worn me down. Though amnesia bullets was what really drove me from the theater wanting to punch someone responsible in the face. Its just supremely lazy plotting, fangirl/boy or not.
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Elisabeth Rappe, I would never fault you for watching...X-Men Origins: Wolverine, as it was in my...Top 5, in 2009! I only hope that, Darren Aronofsky can make a sequel...as great as, XMO:W. I am concerned with this choice as...The Fountain, put me to sleep. I have no interest in any other, Darren Aronofsky film, than...Wolverine 2. I hope that...The Silver Samurai, and The Hand Ninja are in as villains. There could always be room for a fight with...Sabertooth, after Logan returns from Japan.
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About the best thing I can say about Wolverine is: It's no Daredevil!
Eh, I would say that the director's cut has more genuinely inspired moments within its garage of garbage than the clogged colon of X-Men Origins (hooray for alliteration).
post #31 of 64
Man, Aronofsky must really want his bargaining chip to make his own Inception.

I watched the first Wolverine movie about six months ago and can remember virtually nothing about it. Like it's been Lacunaed out of my memory.
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Eh, I would say that the director's cut has more genuinely inspired moments within its garage of garbage than the clogged colon of X-Men Origins (hooray for alliteration).
Fair enough. I've never seen the director's cut since no place I know of rents it and the theatrical cut is so dismal that I can't bring myself to buy it used out of sheer morbid curiosity.
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Fair enough. I've never seen the director's cut since no place I know of rents it and the theatrical cut is so dismal that I can't bring myself to buy it used out of sheer morbid curiosity.
The director's cut is not great, but is a massive improvement from the theatrical, in that plot lines that disappeared are actually dealt with and resolved, and the pace is actually a lot more smooth and functional even thought the film is actually longer. Plus, its officially rated R, so there's that. But, I wouldn't recommend it unless you are a die-hard Daredevil (the character) fan.
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I actually liked Wolverine better than Xmen 3, but I guess that's not saying much since both were shitty. One problem I consistently see is the PG13 rating, which is a problem since Wolverine is a dude who kills by impaling dudes. You rarely see Wolverine break skin or even any blood, and consequently the fights are cut weakly.
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This is another movie that should be really, really easy to get right. You just have to keep it simple. Wolverine fights ninjas and has sex with an asian woman. The asian woman dies and Wolverine kills more ninjas.
Yeah and I don't understand the naysayers. Just think of it as Aronofsky directing an action film set in Japan with Ninjas and a lot of Gaijin jokes. The visuals alone will be gorgeous and i'm sure he'll bring in some top talent for the stunt/fight choreography.

I just hope we get a nastier and uglier Logan than we've seen so far and maybe see him adopt his Patch persona for a scene or two.

(Really, what all of us should be asking ourselves is where does Mark Margolis fit into all this?)
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One problem I consistently see is the PG13 rating, which is a problem since Wolverine is a dude who kills by impaling dudes. You rarely see Wolverine break skin or even any blood, and consequently the fights are cut weakly.
Tell that to chambara! The Zatoichi films in particular used sound, acting, and not a drop of blood to construct some excellent fight scenes. But besides that, all the blood in the world wouldn't have made Wolverine a better movie.
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I hope they drop the title "X-Men Origins: Wolverine 2" and call it something like "Wolverine: Ronin".
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"I think it's likely the characters will speak English rather than Japanese with subtitles." - Lauren Shuler Donner

http://www.empireonline.com/features...se/default.asp
That's a huge pet-peeve of mine. I don't mind if the Japanese characters speak some English but they better incorporate the native language. Hopefully that's going to change now that Aronofsky is on-board.
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So should I go watch Wolverine now?
Absolutely not. The ghost of D.W. Griffith could come back to life and partner with Spike Lee to direct the next one of these and it still wouldn't be worth watching Wolverine.

Pessimistic prediction: will this be Aronofsky's Green Hornet?
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You've seen GREEN HORNET?
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You've seen GREEN HORNET?
Just the trailers. It looks awful and it's being released in January. I love Gondry, but it looks like a misstep. I'll be the first to eat my words if it's actually good.
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I've only seen one trailer and thought it looked mediocre. I'm not going to get too down on it yet.
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wadew1, I would definitely not see...The Green Hornet, as there are already the 2 big strikes against it...Seth Rogen as Britt Reid, and Director Michael Gondry. I also saw the trailer, and it does look bad.

Wolverine 2, on the other hand, is a much more...X-Citing proposition, as it is a sequel to the...X-Cellent, X-Men Origins: Wolverine!
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So Aranofsky's gonna be able to make his Noah epic now?

Fantastic.
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Probably not if this bombs...
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It's a Wolverine sequel. Bombing is frankly not possible.
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I wonder how much this would actually help him get budgets for future projects, though. This isn't an A-List franchise and he's going to be fighting the bad word of mouth from the first movie. Guillermo used Blade 2 to get Hellboy made his way but there's a much larger leap between Wolverine and Noah's Ark.

That all being said, despite my lukewarm feelings towards this, I am VERY intrigued to see what Aronofsky can do with this kind of movie. He's proven himself adept at all kinds of filmmaking styles so it wouldn't surprise me if he knocked an action movie out of the park as well.
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Bombing is frankly not possible.
Probably not, but if the last piece of shit left a bad enough taste in folks mouths, it's not like it's outside of the realm of possibilities.
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What interests me with this is if Jackman actually did something remarkable in his role as a producer and managed to produce some talent this time. Who knows, maybe he had nothing to do with it.
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What interests me with this is if Jackman actually did something remarkable in his role as a producer and managed to produce some talent this time. Who knows, maybe he had nothing to do with it.
I will say that what intrigues me more than Aronofsky or Jackman's involvement is that Christopher McQuarrie wrote the script. I'm really curious about the story here. Are they going to try to cram this in after the clusterfuck of a chronology of the last movie? Is Wolverine going to space (because let's face it, in the last movie he was pretty much everywhere else). Is he going to become a renegade gunman that kidnaps a pregnant woman and holds her for ransom? Wolverine vs. Kaiser Soze? What exactly can be such a bold story that features such a boring character as Wolverine? That's what I'd like to know.
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I just hope they don't have Skip "THE SPECIALIST" Woods 'fix' the script like he did with David Benioff's on the first one.
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