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The Great Borgnine Resurgence of 2010: Suck it, Betty White!

post #1 of 37
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lol just kidding

But he is in Red, he will be getting a lifetime achievement award from SAG in the new year, plus he is 93 and still kicking ass, so I think this living legend deserves an appreciation thread.

Expert at the likeable and sympathetic lug/sidekick/gramps role, and possessed of solid comic timing, Borgnine has always given his all. Never a subtle actor, occasionally a great one (Marty and The Wild Bunch are obvious though perfect examples), but more often than not just a big ball of bluster and energy and hammy gusto. And the man could do any role given- with only the most minimal adjustments made to that bug-eyed stare, gap-toothed grin, and permanent waddle, Borgnine would "disappear" into his roles like a ninja at a Witeout factory. Over the years his chameleonic versatility enabled him to play: various goons and thugs, a chopper co-pilot, a New York taxi driver, a Viking chieftan, a Mexican landowner, a 300 year old goat-priest of Satan, and Lt Commander Quinton McHale of the US Navy. And although I have never seen these three movies, apparently he was an Asian shopkeeper named Hu Chang in his debut film China Corsair, he tried a cockney accent for Crossed Swords, and in Violent Saturday his character was called Stadt the Amish Farmer (according to a review at one point he says "I thank thee, neighbour!")

Borgnine has played many classic assholes and scumbags and crazies in his time too. From Here To Eternity (took a strong personality to bust Sinatra's balls!), Emperor of the North, Hannie Caulder, Bad Day at Black Rock (getting his ass famously whupped by a one armed Spencer Tracy), Willard, The Split (he don't like Jim Brown!), Convoy (he don't like truckers much neither), The Devil's Rain, Deadly Blessing etc. I love Benign Borgnine, but he can only do so much to help a dull movie. But if you get a bit of Bastard Borgnine in the role, that's like a guarantee that the film is not going to be a total letdown (hi again, Convoy). That gleefully sadistic gleam in the eyes tells you this is a man who really enjoys his work. Even though he is old as fuck now and looks like your grandpa's gramps, I honestly want to see him play an evil, deranged old loon one last time. Other reasons I love the man include:

-He was once married to Ethel Merman

-the Academy Award winning actor made a film called Holiday Hookers in 1976, then did Jesus of Nazareth in 1977. Penance?

-He was part of some of the most oafishly enthusiastic fight scenes ever put to film (e.g. Bad Day at Black Rock, Chuka, The Split)

-The original title to his autobiography "Ernie", was "I don't want to set the world on fire, I just want to keep my nuts warm"

-Last Christmas I spent the holidays with my SO's very Catholic family, and sadly my best excuses were all dried up, so we ended up watching the aforementioned Jesus movie on TV. When he showed up as a Roman Centurion asking Robert Powell to heal his friend, I had to leave the room (I was laughing so hard that it almost caused a fracas). Borgie: A man of deep faith!

-Whenever you're feeling old, remember that this guy was an aging outlaw in a Peckinpah movie FOUR DECADES AGO. And he's still going.


Also Re that SAG award, this article:

http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_...-borgnine.html

... asks if they should be honouring him given some controversial Brokeback comments ("I didn't see it and I don't care to see it. I know they say it's a good picture, but I don't care to see it. If John Wayne were alive, he'd be rolling over in his grave!"... please try to imagine how this sounded). My personal feeling is that 87 is the cutoff age where these kinds of comments stop being unpleasant and start being HILARIOUS.

Anyway feel free to post about the amazing, immortal, indestructible SOB in this thread.
post #2 of 37
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Classic lines:

"My father was a very ugly man!" (Marty)

"Behold, Lilith! Queen of delights!" (The Devil's Rain)

"No gringo will ever marry my daughter!" (A Bullet for Sandoval)

"Oh, I'm gonna have a ball breaking you!" (The Split)

"Anyone know who the father is?" (to a black dude who just told him his wife is expecting, in Convoy)

"UP, YOU MOTHER!" (while trying to get a plane off the ground in the hilariously shitty men-on-a-mission flick Skeleton Coast)

"Ain't too often I get a pair of weasels to shoot at this close." (from Vengeance is Mine, a really strange and hard to find little home invasion movie where three criminals cross paths with him and soon come to realize they fucked with the wrong farmer. The Borg unleashes biblical justice with his shotgun and his two killer dogs, Peter and Paul. An essential Batshit Borgnine)

"You are a stench in the nostrils of God!" (Deadly Blessing)

and from golden age The Simpsons:

[Borgnine walks into frame, laughing] "Hiya! I'm sure you kids know me best as Sergeant Fatso Judson in From Here to Eternity!"
post #3 of 37
Wow, Disciple!

I love THE SPLIT for giving me a Borgnine fight with Jim fucking Brown.

Push comes to shove tho, the ultimate Borgnine performance/movie combo is EMPEROR OF THE NORTH POLE. He's sinister, sad, and badass.
post #4 of 37
Silver Rings?! my ass, these are just washers!
post #5 of 37
The only man badass enough to go toe to toe with Hackman in The Poseidon Adventure.
post #6 of 37
Of Course, for me...Airwolf, is my favorite, series or film co-starring Ernst Borgnine! He was...Terrific, as Dominick Santini!
post #7 of 37
I love me some Borgnine. During Tropic Thunder's heyday, I kept telling people that Jack Black's 'on-screen' soldier was supposed to be a Borgnine impression, but none of my friends knew who he was. His westerns, Poseidon, his war movies. The man who says his secret to long life is self-pleasure cannot be less than a great man. I always like to imagine a universe where he got to play Nick Fury.


Nice write up Disciple.
post #8 of 37
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Push comes to shove tho, the ultimate Borgnine performance/movie combo is EMPEROR OF THE NORTH POLE. He's sinister, sad, and badass.
The highlight of EMPEROR OF THE NORTH POLE is when Lee Marvin is hiding underneath Borgnine's train, so Borgnine attaches a heavy steel dildo to a rope and drags it under the train in such a way that it bounces off the tracks and repeatedly strikes Marvin with its hard dildo surface until Marvin falls off.
post #9 of 37
Resurgence! Don't forget Mermaid Man (with Conway as Barnacle Boy) voicework on Spongebob!

post #10 of 37
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The man who says his secret to long life is self-pleasure cannot be less than a great man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I_PeLNzxNQ

He really does look amazing for his age.
post #11 of 37
He's the last of a dying breed, his fight with Sterling Hayden in Johnny Guitar is a classic brawl.
post #12 of 37
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Push comes to shove tho, the ultimate Borgnine performance/movie combo is EMPEROR OF THE NORTH POLE. He's sinister, sad, and badass.
Lee Marvin is the ultimate train hopping hobo. Borgnine is a train conductor who HATES HOBOS. It's a clash of giants!

As great as Marvin was in that movie, you know if it was Charles Bronson's Great Depression free riding hobo then the fight would have been over in like a minute. Then The Littlest Hobo could finish what's left of Borgnine.

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Best "hot mic" situation ever. God bless him.
post #13 of 37
It boggles my mind he's still alive. I remember growing up with MST3K where Mr Borgnine appeared in the episode MERLIN'S MYSTICAL SHOP OF WONDERS which featured an old creepy Merlin movie starring none other than an already ancient Borgnine. The fact that he's now headlining movies again is to my mind totally inexplicable but admittedly kind of cool
post #14 of 37
The man has the voice of an angel. Just watch Baseketball for proof.
post #15 of 37
How have I never heard of Emperor of the North Pole before? Come on!

I've had him as my pick in the life pool me and some friends have going. Instead of ancient, legendary celebrity to die first, we each try and pick the one who'll outlive them all. Already seen Heston and Hopper go, I feel pretty good about going with the Borg. Although my friend picked Jack Lelane, thus giving me some cause to worry.

Anyway, Wild Bunch motherfucekrs.
post #16 of 37
Quint's recent long interview with the legend:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46980

Class act. And now I *really* need to see Emperor of the North Pole.
post #17 of 37
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lulzy marriage comments ahoy! On ex-wife, Katy Jurado (of High Noon): "Beautiful... but a tiger!"
post #18 of 37
Loved Ernie since I was a little kid as he seemed to stubbornly refuse to age. But most of you have way too much taste if you can't get find a spot for POSEIDON ADVENTURE. This is my absolute favorite role of his. His feature length screaming match with Gene Hackman (in his awesome, angry mode) never, I mean never, fails to rivet me. It's near the top of my top ten comfort films.



"You! Preacher!! Murderer!! I started to believe in your promises, that we had a chance. What chance? You took from me the only thing I ever loved in the whole world, my Linda."




Made this for folks, feel free to use next time you're at 4Chan.(You know you go!)
post #19 of 37
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"The Preacher was right! That beautiful son of a bitch was right!"

Nice, soylent. Yeah, love those Hackman & Borgie shouting matches. Poor guy was in love with a hooker in that movie! (predates fat guy/hot wife sitcoms by some thirty years)
post #20 of 37
The world awaits the Borgnine/White team up movie!
post #21 of 37
Sorry, Ernest...but to quote 'Cabbie', "I thought you were dead..."
post #22 of 37
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Teary Cabbie gets the standing ovation:

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-20030019-10391698.html

post #23 of 37
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So today, about 10 minutes from me, Ernest Borgnine was filming some exterior scenes for a small low budget movie called "The Man Who Shook the Hand of Vicente Fernandez". I found out about it too late, but my SO who works there managed to chat to him during a break, and got a couple of pics taken with the man plus a hastily googled image from Marty signed with "so what do you feel like doin' tonight?" (it was Borg's own idea to sign this way, gotta love him). He was totally approachable and super sweet and friendly.

 

Apparently he will be back filming on Monday, and I am going to try to see if I can get a quick embarassing/starstruck geekout session in with him then. I don't normally go around looking for famous people's signatures, but it's Ernest Frigging Borgnine and I will never get a chance like this again. I am planning on taking just one pic printed out on nice photo paper for him to sign. My first thought was maybe a Cabbie pic or something from The Wild Bunch, but he must get that stuff a lot. So now I'm thinking something cool and unexpected, like this:

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LN_P9uZB4ig/TBELGd645SI/AAAAAAAADbs/Wku-QRlv-as/s1600/Emperor+of+the+North+spanish.jpg

 

or this:

 

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/bad_day_at_black_rock2-e1299437539801.jpg

 

Or maybe I'll try to get something from my recording of The Split. Anyway, I'm pretty excited. ERNEST BORGNINE.

post #24 of 37
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Rest in peace you wonderful bastard
 

post #25 of 37

Great in Marty. Great in The Wild Bunch. Great in Baseketball. What a career. You'll be missed, sir.

post #26 of 37

95 is a fantastic innings no question. Truly one of the last of the greats has left us.

 

See ya Cabbie.

post #27 of 37

Good-night, sweet prince.

 

And everyone should check out Emperor of the North for Borgnine's best performance as a psycho train conductor who kills hobos with a hammer and gets into an axe fight with Lee Marvin.

post #28 of 37
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Good-night, sweet prince.

 

And everyone should check out Emperor of the North for Borgnine's best performance as a psycho train conductor who kills hobos with a hammer and gets into an axe fight with Lee Marvin.

 

Why the fuck have I never heard of this movie before????

post #29 of 37

borgnine.jpg

Bless.


RD, here's a superb look at Emperor Of The North from TRAILERS FROM HELL:

post #30 of 37

My other favorite Borgnine performance is as Ragnar, king of the Vikings and Kirk Douglas' Pop, in Richard Fleischer's The Vikings.

post #31 of 37

harrybooth1.jpg

 

He'll always be Harry Booth: "Crazy Astro Scientist" Skeptic Extraordinaire to me.

post #32 of 37

Great in a small part in Gattaca 15 years ago; also great as a baddie in one of my faves, Bad Day at Black Rock.

post #33 of 37

The ending to Marty is still one of the all-time great "ATTA BOY!" moments.

post #34 of 37

I'm sad he's not still around. I liked knowing he was out there in the world, doing his thing.

post #35 of 37

I could be thinking of another actor, but wasn't Borgnine the Academy member who refused to watch or even consider voting for Brokeback Mountain?  Something about John Wayne rolling in his grave? 

post #36 of 37

You are right. He did not see Brokeback Mountain and there was some media kerfluffle.

 

His response:

 


 

 

Some links for a great interview about his earlier works.

 

Interview Part 1

Interview Part 2

Interview Part 3

Interview Part 4

Interview Part 5


Edited by MrTyres - 7/9/12 at 9:56am
post #37 of 37
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Looks like it's Borgnine tribute day all day on Turner Classic Movies. Some classics plus a few more obscure things in there. Also repeating the TCM "Private Screenings" where he was interviewed by Robert Osborne, well worth watching.

 

On right now: Pay or Die. Ernie IS Lt Joe Petrosino, in the true story of a heroic NYC cop who took on the mafia!
 

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