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post #101 of 135
10/27/10 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Clark View Post
Yep. Although, I keep waiting for someone to at least say it.
That Russian chick did I believe when teasing Dent about being "the caped crusader".
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post #102 of 135
10/27/10 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by zak chase View Post
BATMAN RISES would have been better. Would have made a nice bookend to BEGINS. But it's the one called THE DARK KNIGHT that made a bajillion dollars, so ...
Winner winner Batman dinner. They'd call this Dark Knight 2 if Nolan said they could.

Nolan's spin on the meaning of the phrase "dark knight", one of the things I loved about that movie, gives this title meaning that works. The last film was essentially the origin of Nolan's Dark Knight.
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post #103 of 135
10/27/10 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
My thoughts as well. The mob underworld is always present (as it has been in BB and TDK), but making them more than set dressing or catalysts/secondary baddies might not appeal to general audiences. Course, "SOPRANOS/THE SHIELD with Batman" might make an interesting TV series. But a summer superhero movie needs to be bigger.
I just think that once you get the Joker out of the way that should free them up to explore other avenues, maybe even creating a whole new bad guy just for the film world. I sort of see them as an extension of the comics and if Batman: TAS can get Harley Quinn into the DCU, I'm sure an awesome villain created by Nolan & Co. would be a welcome addition.

I'm not saying I don't think they could do something cool with whatever villain(s) they choose, it just doesn't make me super-excited the way something completely new would.
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post #104 of 135
10/27/10 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 View Post
My thoughts as well. The mob underworld is always present (as it has been in BB and TDK), but making them more than set dressing or catalysts/secondary baddies might not appeal to general audiences. Course, "SOPRANOS/THE SHIELD with Batman" might make an interesting TV series. But a summer superhero movie needs to be bigger.
This won't be a popular opinion, but I also think calls for Batman to show off his detective skills are a bit much. We obviously know that he's not a moron, and we got some investigatin' in TDK, but my way of thinking is that Batman's detective stuff in the comics is usually best used when there is an actual mystery in play (which is rare). If we know who the bad guys are, and what actors are playing them, what mystery is there to solve?

I suppose we could see him doing some work to unravel a certain plot, but even comic book Batman usually finds out what he needs to know by punching the answers out of someone (or in the case of Nolan's Batman, engaging in large scale destruction of private and public property. The people that parked their cars in that garage at the beginning of TDK have to have a pretty low opinion of the Caped Crusader).

Shit, that's a title: The Dark Knight Summoned.
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post #105 of 135
10/27/10 at 4:12pm
Dark Knight of the Lepus

Title's fine. I like that it at least hints at some optimism this time around, because after the end of the last one, Jesus.
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post #106 of 135
10/27/10 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny View Post
Eh. It suggests a beginning rather than an ending, which is what this is supposed to be.
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Title's fine. I like that it at least hints at some optimism this time around, because after the end of the last one, Jesus.
I just came to said the above. And he should gain the Detective moniker here.
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post #107 of 135
10/27/10 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post
The people that parked their cars in that garage at the beginning of TDK have to have a pretty low opinion of the Caped Crusader).
He has a gadget that gets the plate numbers and then through a tangled web of offshore corporations, makes it appear that their insurance just buys them a new car, no problem.
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post #108 of 135
10/27/10 at 6:20pm
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It's a title. I'll give it that.
Yep..

Can't really say I like that title on any level. It's wacky sounding when pronounced out loud, feels like a rehash of the last movie, and generally is just kind of dull.

Of all the various BM phrases out there (Caped Crusader ETC), I'm not sure why they just affixed a word to the title of the previous film. It's like "THE MATRIX RELOADED" all over again, only in this case not a clever play on words

As to the rest of the news, I am sure Nolan will choose someone suitable, but I must say that I dispute your notion that Riddler could not work in Nolan's Bat-verse. Riddler seems like one of the more realistic villains in BM's rogue's gallery. A "Riddler" type terrorist does not seem at all out of place in the world of Bale's Bruce Wayne, IMHO. It just depends on who you cast and how you write the part, but the Riddler does not automatically equal Jim Carrey IMHO. To compare him to Killer Croc is a bit of a stretch
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post #109 of 135
10/27/10 at 6:51pm
I don't think Chris Nolan spent alot of time thinking about the title for the third film. It's not a terrible title, but they could've done better. Why not call it the "Caped Crusader"? No reason to use the title "Dark Knight" twice in a row.
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post #110 of 135
10/27/10 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by Anger Management View Post
I don't think Chris Nolan spent alot of time thinking about the title for the third film. It's not a terrible title, but they could've done better. Why not call it the "Caped Crusader"? No reason to use the title "Dark Knight" twice in a row.
James Cameron's next film will not be called simply Pandora Rising but Avatar: Pandora Rising for the name recognition. Where's Dre? I bet keeping The Dark Knight in the title is worth at least 20 mil for this pic alone.
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post #111 of 135
10/27/10 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by TzuDohNihm View Post
James Cameron's next film will not be called simply Pandora Rising but Avatar: Pandora Rising for the name recognition. Where's Dre? I bet keeping The Dark Knight in the title is worth at least 20 mil for this pic alone.
Nolan could call it Batman instead of Dark Knight, and change it up a little.
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post #112 of 135
10/27/10 at 7:15pm
Fine by me.
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post #113 of 135
10/27/10 at 7:41pm
"The Dark Knight" was such an elegant, bold and non-Hollywood title for a sequel.

This new title may not be horrible, but it's just the exact opposite of everything the previous one was.
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post #114 of 135
10/27/10 at 7:55pm
I'm calling it now: either Hush or Deadshot will be showing up.
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post #115 of 135
10/27/10 at 8:12pm
I loved how every Knight Rider episode (original and remake) tried to do something with the word Knight. Like "Knightmares" or "A Hard Day's Knight".
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post #116 of 135
10/27/10 at 8:46pm
Ugh. I'm already dreading the geekifying that's going to swirl around this movie in both its leadup and aftermath - and whats worse is I'm sure I'll be drawn into it as much as evertone else.

To wit: The title's awful, lazy and obviously chosen to keep the WB money men happy, someone mentioned Eva Green as Talia Al Ghul and I must admit I swooned a little and finally I really think Nolan should go for Tom Hardy as Deadshot, who acts as a dark mirror of Bruce Wayne and his quest while being hired to hunt down the now rogue Batman.

Okay, that's me done for at least a little while.
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post #117 of 135
10/27/10 at 9:56pm
Shaky title ... but it simply doesn't matter. We'll all be there opening night ... with our Grandmother and her friends from "the home."
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post #118 of 135
10/27/10 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by Phillip J. Titsworth View Post
Shaky title ... but it simply doesn't matter. We'll all be there opening night ... with our Grandmother and her friends from "the home."
True that. After Dark Knight and Inception, it could be called "Batman's Twinkie Hole" and still break box office records.
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post #119 of 135
10/27/10 at 11:07pm
Not crazy about the title, but it's no worse than "Character Name" "Number" as a title.

I'm actually digging the lack of The Riddler. I figure Catwoman is very likely to show up, which should ensure the classic villain quota. Something like Black Mask and the False Face Society would give us the mirror image Bruce Wayne and plenty of thugs to beat up.
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post #120 of 135
10/27/10 at 11:16pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post
True that. After Dark Knight and Inception, it could be called "Batman's Twinkie Hole" and still break box office records.
Not to mention James Cameron filming a special 3D Joker flashback sequence. That'll fill some theaters.
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post #121 of 135
10/27/10 at 11:32pm
"Reign of the Bat", "Reign of the Knight" or some variation of that I think would be cool. Or...

You Will Meet a Tall Dark Knight
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post #122 of 135
10/27/10 at 11:57pm
Jesus, between the last two Potters, Batman 3, the two Hobbits and even films like Sherlock Holmes 2 and The Hangover 2, is there another studio in Hollywood right now that has a dance card as full of such sure-fire money makers over the next few years as Warner Brothers?

They've really lined their ducks up in a row. Smart.
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post #123 of 135
10/28/10 at 12:58am
I was partial to Dark Knights, Big City myself.

Y'see, Gotham's...big...sorry
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post #124 of 135
10/28/10 at 1:58am
As I stated earlier, it doesn't really matter. But, if I were naming it? 'Dark Knight ... Badass.'
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post #125 of 135
10/28/10 at 2:07am
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
I was partial to Dark Knights, Big City myself.

Y'see, Gotham's...big...sorry
Even just reordering the words makes for a better title IMHO: RISE OF THE DARK KNIGHT

PS I met the author of BRIGHT LIGHTS BIG CITY earlier this year
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post #126 of 135
10/28/10 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
Jesus, between the last two Potters, Batman 3, the two Hobbits and even films like Sherlock Holmes 2 and The Hangover 2, is there another studio in Hollywood right now that has a dance card as full of such sure-fire money makers over the next few years as Warner Brothers?

They've really lined their ducks up in a row. Smart.
I'd argue the HOLMES 2 and HANGOVER 2 aren't "surefire" by any means, but overall, yeah. WB has done a very good job acquiring and running with tentpole flicks.
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post #127 of 135
10/28/10 at 7:53am
I would say Holmes is. However I could say that Hangover 2 could be a let down for some and maybe hurt box office but still it's not going to be a failure.
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post #128 of 135
10/28/10 at 8:07am
It would seem like Poison Ivy would be a great villain. Just make her an eco nut. Someone with a huge knowledge of poison and runs a "green" company
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post #129 of 135
10/28/10 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt View Post
I would say Holmes is. However I could say that Hangover 2 could be a let down for some and maybe hurt box office but still it's not going to be a failure.
I don't know the international numbers, but I was under the impression that SHERLOCK HOLMES barely made back its production and marketing budget in US box office, though DVD sales may have given it a bigger margin. Without a stronger story and great villain (obviously the character of Moriarity is a great villain, but that doesn't mean he'll be well executed onscreen), I'd say HOLMES 2 remains an uncertain thing.
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post #130 of 135
10/28/10 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
I don't know the international numbers, but I was under the impression that SHERLOCK HOLMES barely made back its production and marketing budget in US box office, though DVD sales may have given it a bigger margin. Without a stronger story and great villain (obviously the character of Moriarity is a great villain, but that doesn't mean he'll be well executed onscreen), I'd say HOLMES 2 remains an uncertain thing.
Holmes production budget was $90 million. Domestically the movie made $209 million, and international numbers were $314 million. Definite hit.

I think the sequel's biggest hurdle is that people "liked" not "loved" the first flick. That seems to be what I hear from most casual movie-goers anyhow.
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post #131 of 135
10/28/10 at 11:29am
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Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
Holmes production budget was $90 million. Domestically the movie made $209 million, and international numbers were $314 million. Definite hit.
I stand corrected. Thanks for the numbers.

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I think the sequel's biggest hurdle is that people "liked" not "loved" the first flick. That seems to be what I hear from most casual movie-goers anyhow.
Agreed, and I was thinking the same thing. Rightly or not, I was comparing it to the first PIRATES movie - people came away loving it, and ready for more. People came away from HOLMES saying, "Eh, it was OK."
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post #132 of 135
10/28/10 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
I stand corrected. Thanks for the numbers.



Agreed, and I was thinking the same thing. Rightly or not, I was comparing it to the first PIRATES movie - people came away loving it, and ready for more. People came away from HOLMES saying, "Eh, it was OK."
Same thing could be said for Batman Begins. That flick opened to decent numbers, but had legs and also gained a big audience on DVD.
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post #133 of 135
10/28/10 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
Same thing could be said for Batman Begins. That flick opened to decent numbers, but had legs and also gained a big audience on DVD.
Difference being that BEGINS had good buzz from critics and those who actually saw it; HOLMES has not experienced a home video surge of love or fandom.
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post #134 of 135
10/28/10 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by matches View Post
Not to mention James Cameron filming a special 3D Joker flashback sequence. That'll fill some theaters.
Wait, what? Is my sarcasm meter busted?
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post #135 of 135
10/28/10 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
Difference being that BEGINS had good buzz from critics and those who actually saw it; HOLMES has not experienced a home video surge of love or fandom.
Maybe not where you live, anecdotally I've met plenty of people who have discovered how delightful it is now it's on dvd.

It's pretty roundly liked in my experience.
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