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I thought he did?

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Christopher Nolan on including Catwoman (from Empire)...

 

"I was nervous about how she would fit into our world. But Jonah was very much convinced that there would be a great way to do it and eventually turned me around," said Nolan. "Once I got my head around the idea of looking at that character through the prism of our films, saying, 'Who could that person be in real-life?' we figured it out. She's a bit of a con-woman, something of a grifter. A hard-edged kind of criminal."

 

 

Unpublished excerpt: "Including such a strongly va...va.. (at this point during the interview, Nolan doubles over and appears to suppress the urge to vomit) vaginal character was quite a frightening prospect for me."

 

 

I kid the man, I'm sure he bucked up and adjusted.

 

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I'm glad that I'm not the only one absolutely puzzled by Gordon's fake-death.  Though, I understand why they did it as it follows the same line of reasoning as XXXXXX's death from XXXXXXX...

You ASSHOLE.

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You ASSHOLE.


Sir are you one of the three people under the age of 60 that did not see Avengers yet?

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Sir are you one of the three people under the age of 60 that did not see Avengers yet?

 

/raises hand

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Spoiler! No, I don't care. Apparently, it has been confirmed that at no point in the film is Selina Kyle ever referred to as "Catwoman". It's a pretty rigid decision. They fit in "Two-Face", but I guess you could say that you almost have to do that, otherwise to those not entirely familiar, he'd be "that dude who had his face melted off". Catwoman is so iconic that everyone is already referring to Hathaway as Catwoman anyway, so you don't need to drop in that awkward piece of dialogue where a cop or a reporter or whoever gives her the name (or explain why she gave herself the name). I can see the logic, but he'll still catch shit for it because there's all this shit laying around just waiting to be thrown.

 

 

Edit: That reminds me. Does anyone think it was Christopher Nolan's idea or wish for Bale to reprise Keaton's iconic "I'm Batman" line in Batman Begins? I am almost absolutely fucking certain that it was not. Speaks to his increased influence that he's able to forego doing stuff like that.


Edited by JacknifeJohnny - 6/1/12 at 1:24pm
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you need to rectify that sir

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Does he ever refer to himself as Batman? 

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Regardless of how corny the line seems, it worked perfectly in the film. Much more so than the "Two-Face" metaphor used in TDK

 

edit: at least it just feels forced

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Originally Posted by Monster Pete View Post

Does he ever refer to himself as Batman? 

 

 

Besides this...don't think so?

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still can't beleive they deleted the scene where Batman is cutting Falcone's coat, and he just can't get it right.

 

"WILL YOU HOLD STILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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Originally Posted by Monster Pete View Post

Does he ever refer to himself as Batman? 

 

"Batman has no limits"

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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

Spoiler! No, I don't care. Apparently, it has been confirmed that at no point in the film is Selina Kyle ever referred to as "Catwoman". It's a pretty rigid decision. They fit in "Two-Face", but I guess you could say that you almost have to do that, otherwise to those not entirely familiar, he'd be "that dude who had his face melted off". Catwoman is so iconic that everyone is already referring to Hathaway as Catwoman anyway, so you don't need to drop in that awkward piece of dialogue where a cop or a reporter or whoever gives her the name (or explain why she gave herself the name). I can see the logic, but he'll still catch shit for it because there's all this shit laying around just waiting to be thrown.

 

He said that the name "Catwoman" wasn't used at all in the script but he never said the final film. Yeah, I know... but I still think the name "Catwoman" will be there somewhere if even a throwaway line in a news report. I really liked the "Two-Face" reference. 

 

I don't know why but it bothered me a little that in Spider-Man 3 Eddie Brock was never referred to as "Venom".

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Never noticed, how exactly does he go up in that scene? There is clearly no zipline. And where does he go? There doesn't seem to be ... anything.


No wonder Rade Zserberdsja is confused.

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Wow I didn't realize that was Boris The Blade.

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And while we're nitpicking about the previous movies, didn't they completely neglect the grappling gun in "The Dark Knight"? I can't remember it being used in that movie. He didn't even use it much in "Batman Begins". I know there was more than one instance where he did, but the only one that comes to mind is when he uses it to let the speeding train pull him along at the end. I want more cool moments like that in Batman movies.

 

And the grappling hook sure would have come in handy when he was trying to save Rachel after The Joker dropped her out the window. I couldn't help but wonder why he broke her fall by landing on his back over the hood of a car when it would have been so much more practical (and less painful) for him to use the grappling gun to keep them from landing hard on anything.

 

As a fan of the animated series, I'm a little disappointed by how current movie Batman doesn't use these gadgets more often (instead of the lame more 'realistic' gizmos like the sonar shit). I guess they don't fit in with Nolan's 'gritty/plausible' world, but I miss that stuff.

 

I'd also like to once again see those big batarangs in a Batman movie. The ones that actually work like boomerangs and can knock a gun out of someone's hand. Much better than those wussy little bat-shaped throwing stars Bale's Batman uses. What good did they ever do besides knock out some lights in "Batman Begins"?

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Did he use it on Maroni after breaking his ankles?

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Originally Posted by Naisu Baddi View Post

And while we're nitpicking about the previous movies, didn't they completely neglect the grappling gun in "The Dark Knight"? I can't remember it being used in that movie. He didn't even use it much in "Batman Begins". I know there was more than one instance where he did, but the only one that comes to mind is when he uses it to let the speeding train pull him along at the end. I want more cool moments like that in Batman movies.

 

He uses it a ton in the climactic scene in the unfinished building and the SWAT team.

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He used it on the Joker, didn't he?  He didn't have to save him, but he did.

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Yes. He uses it a lot in THE DARK KNIGHT, arguably more than in BEGINS.

 

If you're going to nitpick at least make an effort to be observant.

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Some GIF'y goodness

 


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I hope Gordon says, upon having to temporarily pilot The Bat, "I got to get me one of these."

For realz.

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Yes. He uses it a lot in THE DARK KNIGHT, arguably more than in BEGINS.

 

If you're going to nitpick at least make an effort to be observant.

he's clearly not using the clutch in his Lamborghini the way he should.  He will burn that sucker out in 3 months.  

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He's rich as hell, he could afford to replace them every three months.

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Originally Posted by neoolong View Post

He's rich as hell, he could afford to replace them every three months.

he did probably order them in bulk. 

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB View Post

Yes. He uses it a lot in THE DARK KNIGHT, arguably more than in BEGINS.

 

If you're going to nitpick at least make an effort to be observant.

 

Obviously, people are forgetting a lot about The Dark Knight. Makes sense when you account for the recent backlash ha!

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Originally Posted by Sebastian OB View Post

Yes. He uses it a lot in THE DARK KNIGHT, arguably more than in BEGINS.

 

If you're going to nitpick at least make an effort to be observant.


Ah, okay. I remember the scenes people have mentioned. I thought he just had rope in those, because I don't recall seeing the actual gun. Cheerfully withdrawn!

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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post

Obviously, people are forgetting a lot about The Dark Knight. Makes sense when you account for the recent backlash ha!

 

Yes, because everyone in the world loved it unreservedly when it came out.

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Yes, because everyone in the world loved it unreservedly when it came out.

 

Lol, wasn't saying that.

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Originally Posted by Monster Pete View Post

he did probably order them in bulk. 
via dummy corporations.

I loved how his grappling gun looked like Deckard's from Blade Runner. In fact, the Bat looks a little like his car as well. Wonder if Batman sees a white bat in his dreams?
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Originally Posted by Carnotaur3 View Post

 

Lol, wasn't saying that.


Right but you misused the word backlash, it's not as though this film was totally loved at first and then hated later, quite the opposite. If anything, people are forgetting how overrated these films are. That was the spirit of these and other boards back in the day anyways, it didn't go over all that well for everyone.

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Right but you misused the word backlash, it's not as though this film was totally loved at first and then hated later, quite the opposite. If anything, people are forgetting how overrated these films are. That was the spirit of these and other boards back in the day anyways, it didn't go over all that well for everyone.

 

See The Avengers in 3 years.

 

Anything that reaches an extreme level of popularity will always be called "overrated" by a small but vocal number of people on the internet.

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See The Avengers in 3 years.

 

Anything that reaches an extreme level of popularity will always be called "overrated" by a small but vocal number of people on the internet.

 

See: the first two Spider-Man movies (That's mostly from retard fanboys who are pretending they didn't love em because the reboot is coming and by default will be better), the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels, Avatar, etc.

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Yes, that makes perfect sense. We're all forgetting that back in the day, the few people who didn't like THE DARK KNIGHT were right all along.  I keep forgetting that, and so do the majority of people who continue to name THE DARK KNIGHT as one of the best superhero films ever made. NEVER FORGET!

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Originally Posted by User_32 View Post

 

See The Avengers in 3 years.

 

Anything that reaches an extreme level of popularity will always be called "overrated" by a small but vocal number of people on the internet.

No. Sorry it doesn't work like that, that's just what people like to say when they don't want to admit that something they like has flaws.

 

This is not just a "oh it's popular so let's hate on it" sort of thing. TDK was good, absolutely. The criticism stands out only because so many more people lavish praise on it that was quite frankly never deserved.

 

For a film hyped so much as the "greatest super hero movie ever" I never felt the need to watch it more than once in theaters and a couple of times on dvd/blu ray, and I know I'm not alone on that.

 

There might be some haters out there sure, but who is really going to try and argue The Avengers isn't a fun film with endless spectacle and a nice dose of humor? That's pretty much the height of praise for that film.

 

Avengers is getting praised for reasons that actually hold up upon viewing the film multiple times. Because it's fun, and the action is really good and the script did a really great job handling so many huge personalities. No one is claiming absurdities about it like branding it a "masterpiece" or saying absolutely ludicrous things like "Watching The Dark Knight is like gazing into a mirror on a waning moon night: chilling and mesmerizing."

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Originally Posted by Benny Reno View Post


 

Avengers is getting praised for reasons that actually hold up upon viewing the film multiple times. Because it's fun, and the action is really good and the script did a really great job handling so many huge personalities. No one is claiming absurdities about it like branding it a "masterpiece" or saying absolutely ludicrous things like "Watching The Dark Knight is like gazing into a mirror on a waning moon night: chilling and mesmerizing."

 

I'd love to know where this quote comes from.

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Lisa Kennedy with the Denver Post I believe.

 

And there was never any backlash from me because I never got behind these movies in the slightest.

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I'm gonna guess The Lord Byron Movie Review.

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I'm glad that I realize how wrong I was about loving The Dark Knight.  Thank you, Benny -- everyone who talked down on it in 2008 was right, and we the foolish just took four years to realize how enlightened you all were.

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Originally Posted by Benny Reno View Post

 

 

For a film hyped so much as the "greatest super hero movie ever" I never felt the need to watch it more than once in theaters and a couple of times on dvd/blu ray, and I know I'm not alone on that.

 

But I did.  So I guess you're wrong then.

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Lisa Kennedy with the Denver Post I believe.

 

And there was never any backlash from me because I never got behind these movies in the slightest.

 

It is hilarious that a "legitimate" reviewer actually typed that.

 

I think the backlash derives from that kind of hyperbole. I'd say most people think these are entertaining, enjoyable films and leave it at that. I know I do.

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I'm glad that I realize how wrong I was about loving The Dark Knight.  Thank you, Benny -- everyone who talked down on it in 2008 was right, and we the foolish just took four years to realize how enlightened you all were.

 


Every forum needs the pretentious douche who gets off on being "that guy".  When he said the Avengers had a strong script, I nearly had coke coming out my nose from how hard I was laughing.  Can't wait for the next "Tiptoes" reference. 

 

I get it, people may not think The Dark Knight is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but to ignore that it is a well directed, well acted film that has changed the face of what Super Hero film can be, is wrong. 

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Every forum needs the pretentious douche who gets off on being "that guy".  When he said the Avengers had a strong script, I nearly had coke coming out my nose from how hard I was laughing.  Can't wait for the next "Tiptoes" reference. 

 

I get it, people may not think The Dark Knight is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but to ignore that it is a well directed, well acted film that has changed the face of what Super Hero film can be, is wrong. 

The Tiptoes thing was obviously a joke, really how dense can you be?

 

I never said The Avengers had a strong script. That just was not posted at all or even hinted at.

 

As for the rest of your post, I'm with you up to the point you claimed The Dark Knight was anything more than a well directed and well acted film, which is the only thing I've been saying here overall but apparently any kind of criticism about this film makes you a troll here, even when you're simply responding to a lowly loser internet bully referring to your opinions as (and I quote) "total bullshit".

 

Only thing surprising about this post is that you're not typing in all caps.

 

Enjoy your nice little circle jerk though guize, don't let me stop you...

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FACT: Movie A was great, and I loved it, and so did others, so there!

FACT: Movie B is bad because I talked to some guys who agreed and I never watch it on DVD!

 

I am a MOVIE SCIENTIST!

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FACT: Movie A was great, and I loved it, and so did others, so there!

FACT: Movie B is bad because I talked to some guys who agreed and I never watch it on DVD!

 

I am a MOVIE SCIENTIST!

I can't tell if you're trying to troll, or just trying to troll the other trolls in here. : \

post #3748 of 4802

Benny, when you're passionate about films on this board, you can't pretend to be an expert, you have to ask questions. Your statements are of dubious truth, and your wording and manner demean those who would disagree. That's no way to love movies, or people.

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I'm sorry, I'm dying in the corner laughing right now. God, I love CHUD posters!
 

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Originally Posted by Benny Reno View Post

As for the rest of your post, I'm with you up to the point you claimed The Dark Knight was anything more than a well directed and well acted film, which is the only thing I've been saying here overall but apparently any kind of criticism about this film makes you a troll here, even when you're simply responding to a lowly loser internet bully referring to your opinions as (and I quote) "total bullshit".

 

Just so we're clear, you essentially said that anyone who held TDK up as a great film is a delusional fanboy still in denial.  There's nothing at all wrong with disliking TDK.  But stopping half an inch short of labeling the people who love it sheep, then getting mad when you're called on it?  That's sillllllllllly.

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