THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Pre-Release Thread - Page 90

I would say Two Face The Riddler and Penguin are all equally iconic, while the Joker is the only one who is universally Mickey Mouse kind of iconic.

 

I swear... they buy up every damn character.

 

Absolutely. Those characters are iconic and I love them, but neither is as thematically rich or as visually interesting or complimentary to Batman as Two-Face. I don't believe that can be argued.

In response to Prankster.

This is NOT a review (embargo is apparently still on), but it's a reaction from an least semi-credible source: Wired magazine.

 

 

 

 

 

You can read the entire article here. There are no spoilers in it.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/07/the-dark-knight-rises-behind-the-scenes-on-the-sound-stage-with-christopher-nolan/

 

A geeky response, but a credible response nonetheless, from Meredith Frost:

 

Armond White said it was a terribly executed film, with cartoonish performances and a scope that feels more like the mouth wash, then anything epic.

 

 

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You had me going until I read the "spolier"  

International chewers spend some time disguising posts to avoid spoilers in the "new posts view", in a post-release Thread for Avengers.

Just in case, please respect non-spoiler policy, this is a pre-release thread.

That's very possible.

I'm surprised you guys didn't include Catwoman in the "iconic Batman villains" list. I whole heartedly agree with the others, but I would have added Catwoman in there as well.

Man that clown Armond White did'nt like none of these movies, if you don't like Spider-Man 2, Iron Man ,TDK or Avengers, chances are highly likely you just don't like comic book films period, no matter how great they are.

The 1960s series helped a lot to make the Batman villains icons to the general public. Joker is arguably the most famous comic book villain of all time (for many reasons). I'd argue that Penguin and Catwoman are probably the next two most recognized villains to the general public thanks in part to Burgess Meredith and Julie Newmar.

Cesar Romero is still my favorite Joker.  I can't help it, it's Cesar fucking Romero in make-up.  That accent makes for a delicious Joker voice.

 

I did include her. 

He did love Jonah hex and Ghost Rider 2! And Green Hornet!

 

Never change Armond, you wonderful wonderful man.*

 

*He legit loves Neveldine/Taylor, though I don't know where he was coming from in his Jonah Hex review. His Green Hornet one is a pretty excellent take on that film, however.

 

In make-up, with a moustache.

 

Yup. You've got to admire a guy who loves his moustache so damned much that he says "No. Fuck you. I'm not shaving this off. Just get that lady over there to put the make-up over it. Any further comments on the matter can be directed to my agent, thankyouverymuch."

Minor, shallow post but from the trailers I really like Tom Hardy's Bane voice inflection. "The punishment must be more seVEEah". Maybe he can rival Liam Neeson's Ras Al Ghul in terms of poetic eloquence.

Fixed.

You're not seriously chiding Cesar Romero for not "committing to character" on a campy, late 1960's kid's show are you?

Moustache or no moustache you can't say Romero didn't commit to the character. I've been watching tons of the Adam West stuff on youtube and in many ways his Joker is easily the most disturbing because Romero sells it so well. Strangely enough none of the Adam West Batman villains seem like they're phoning it in, with Burgess Meredith's Penguin being my favorite. 

Whoa whoa whoa... I love me some Burgess Meredith, but c'mon man, Frank fucking Gorshin. Best Riddler ever hands down.

Romero not wanting to shave his 'stache is quite amazing, actually.  And he gives a great performance anyway, so he clearly didn't lack commitment.

All this talk of the 60s series and not a word of Julie Newmar as Catwoman? Eunuchs, all of you.

Putting makeup over a mustache makes no sense... which is exactly why Joker does it.  Romero's characterization was way ahead of its time!

MichaelM, I agree with you about the lovely Ms. Newmar!  Of course...Yvonne Craig was curvy and appealing as...Bat-Girl!

Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia, on line one.

I jest.

It seems that Nolan is using Bane as an amalgamation of both Ernst Blofeld and The Humongous.

 

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I'd fucking KILL to see Nolan do a 1960's set Bond movie starring Michael Fassbender.

 

P.S. I've always adored the fact that Arkham Asylum is a reference to H.P. Lovecraft. Just one more thing that makes Batman awesome!

 

Edited by TheDarkside - 7/9/12 at 7:05pm

 

I always loved Eartha Kitt, even though she was only in a handful of eps. Her voice is just divine to listen to in anything.

Too bad we couldn't get an Arkham Asylum spin-off movie Directed by David Cronenberg. You know, I think it would be fucking GREAT if they ended TDKR with Bruce Wayne being a patient in Arkham, having been driven insane by the murder of his parents as a child and everything we've seen a figment of his imagination. Just give the audience a Brazil-style FUCK YOU!

Well, when it turns out that Bane is Bruce, and this entire film was just like Fight Club, you will get your wish. 

 

You know you all want to see the gigantic finale, and when Bane is fighting Batman, you see it from the perspective of the citizens and it's Batman shadow boxing himself. 

That might be the greatest thing ever.

Well this is odd. "The Art and Making of The Dark Knight Trilogy" is coming out on the 20th. I pre-ordered it on Amazon back in March. Last night I get an email from them saying the release date has been moved up to the 12th and that I was being charged for my order. This morning I get a confirmation saying my order had shipped and I would be getting it on the 11th. I double check and sure enough it says it shipped. Then I went to the product page to see what the page count was and it says the relase date is back to being on the 20th. So I guess I'll be getting it 9 days early! Wondering if I should put it up on Ebay for double, maybe triple, the price. I'm sure there's got to be some impatient retard out there who will pay more to get it a little sooner.

 

Blake:  How long has Mr Wayne been doing this?

 

Gordon: On and off, last time was 8 years ago.  Just let him be, he'll tire himself out.  Want some popcorn?

Odo, same thing happened to me. As far as I can tell, my copy arrives tomorrow. Which sucks balls, because I won't look at it until after the film releases. Going to let it sit in the box until about 3 AM 7/20.

 

Hahahaha.

 

Yeah, I like the way that he says that line too.

 

I couldn't get my head around his accent at first (seeing as I'd been expecting him to sound like Danny Trejo) but now (after watching the trailers a billion times) I kind of love it. The guy looks like a beast but speaks like an Oxford University professor. That contrast is interesting to me.

I know right!  At first it was so jarring but it serves to make him seem less goonish and more smart and capable. 

 

I want to see Batman throw a pipe through Bane and say "let off some steam, Bane."

 

 

Or decapitates him with a surfboard and says "SURF'S UP PAL!!!"

 

P.S. Entire TDKR score available to listen here..... http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34498

I can't believe the praise for Caesar Romero in this thread. Having re-watched some of the '60s series a few years ago, I was shocked by how terrible he was in the role. The way he would overenunciate every word drove me nuts.

 

Romero's delivery was so unbelievably irritating that I now have to skip Joker episodes if I go through the show. His laugh was okay and he fared a little better when he had other villians to play off (as in "Batman: The Movie"), but he was grating as hell and couldn't carry an episode on his own. Frank Gorshin, Julie Newmar, and Burgess Meredith were clearly the MVPs of that show. The three of them were hilarious and fit perfectly into its world. Caesar Romero did not.

Look, everyone, Naisu is wrong about something again!

Checking photos of Romero and his whitened 'tache, it occurred to me that none of the most notable Jokers through the years have been thin. Romero, Nicholson, and Ledger were all a bit chunky, which is odd considering one of the defining characteristics of the character is that he's a thin dude...his look originally based on the German actor Conrad Veidt...

 

 

It's not make or break, but one day I'd like to see a slimline Joker.

Hooooooooly fuck yes. Brenner you've done it again. 

And I thought my jokes were bad.

Did someone just describe Heath Ledger as chunky? Fucking hell nerds, step back a bit. Also, Ledger's Joker is hugely inspired by Romero's in look and personality.

I remember when some of the first photos were released of Ledger as The Joker, some fans expressed gratitude that he looked lanky, much like The Joker of the comics. He wasn't Topher Grace-in-"That '70s Show" skinny, but he was far from "chunky".

Well, maybe 'chunky' is not the best word, that applies more to Nicholson and Romero, but Ledger's Joker's head is squarish, as opposed to the classic triangular shape from the comics.