MELT YOUR EYEBALLS WITH A NEW SUCKER PUNCH TRAILER - Page 3

Yeah, and I was gonna apologize if it came off really dickish (it got deleted so it must've been worse than I remember) but it's just one of those things that bothers me way more than it should.

(scutters over to the not-too-interested team)

This is going to have to be one of those movies that hit me on a completely emotional level to work. Going to see movies in theaters these days, it feels like these are the only types of movies I see trailers for. Movies that play everything up to an inch of their lives. It feels like there's no break to the geeky-pandering and I'm dulled to most everything like it that doesn't hit that sweet spot.

Believe me, if this trailer had hit that sweet spot in me, I'd be singing about how much I'm looking forward to it. I preferred the teaser which was all images, and even then I was wary of it. Now that I'm seeing what the movie is supposed to be about, I'm less interested.

I don't mind the speed-ramping. But I do agree that Snyder's action sequences, which always look awesome, rarely manage to get me invested in anything. The setup isn't there. The action itself is too postured to feel grounded in the film's own world.

It's context. Tell me that Edgar Wright wrote and directed this and I'd be much more excited. Knowing how I feel about Snyder's films, I'm not feeling this.

If only this had come out around the same time I was all excited for Casshern. Hahahahahaha, ugh.

I actually thought 300 hit some good emotional beats. Namely when Leonidas had that sexy little flashback to Queen Gorgo, and then launched himself to his death.

I'm a sucker for any guy who screams "My queen! My wife! My love!" before biting the dust though.

I think Rorschach's death was poignant, but I think it was more Jackie Earle Haley than Snyder. Although the Doctor Manhattan sequence was pretty chilling, and I do give Snyder and Billy Crudup equal credit for that. Dr. Manhattan left me absolutely flat in the book, but in the movie, I actually sympathized and understood him. I'm sure Alan Moore fans (not that I don't consider myself one; I just don't think he walks on water) will crucify me, but I honestly think Crudup's faint "I am tired of Earth" line in the film sums up the character better than Moore's long dialogue bubbles did.

mcnooj82, You like...Edgar Wright's films over, Zack Snyder's? I know I am in the minority, that I do not think, Edgar has the...Wright stuff, as a director. Watchmen is...Awe-Inspiring, and to me, The...Best Superhero film ever made. Jackie Earle Haylie as Rorscharch was terrific, but my favorite...Dynamic Duo was Malin Ackerman as Silk Spectre 2 and Patrick Wilson as Nite Owl 2! The only superhero film that could be as epic is...The Avengers. I just think that, Snyder is, Super...Man! I cannot wait to see...The Man Of Steel!

Spoiler tags please. Maybe someone else won't be spoiled after the tagging.

Don't feel bad, this is a CHUD thing, where any and every movie seems to get spoiled in conversations outside of their respective threads of discussion.

Dude - it's nearly five years old.

The other big problem is that I really can't distinguish between the girls, because the way they're made up/costumed, they look nearly identical. It's so confusing.

And the story it's telling is over two thousand years old. There's a statute of limitations on that stuff.

I know. I know. This is a common argument that comes up when people discuss what is or isn't a spoiler: That everyone should have seen the same mainstream fare by now. Fair enough. I am just offering a request, even as I understand that most people find it excessive.


*LOL*


Really guys, I know. Rappe, don't feel bad. Some message boards are strict on spoilers, but CHUD isn't one of them and I should know by now just to avoid any tangental threads.

In other words, disregard and carry on. [/derail]

So a samurai schoolgirl, a medieval lady, a pilot, an army nurse, and, uh, whatever Jamie Chung's supposed to imagine herself as walk into a bar...

Something tells me this might be more of a problem on your end than something the movie's doing wrong.

And am I mistaken, or did I read someone actually calling the frame skipping that's all over the first half of this trailer "speed ramping"?

Oh wait, it was The Prankster. I'm not shocked at that at all.

I actually find that frame-skipping way more obnoxious than speed-ramping. I remember REALLY disliking its use on Die Another Day, which is around the time I recall seeing a lot of it being done.

See, but we don't know if that's something just for the trailers or if it's in the movie itself. I imagine the AICN test screening reviews would've mentioned something that jarring. Neither one did, so I'm just going to presume it's just some marketing nut's idea.

Actually, this makes me wonder what would happen if you put out something like the Italian Bay of Blood trailer (the one with scenes from the film solarised) today. Something tells me far too many people would bitch about not being able to see anything, thereby completely missing the point.

I mean, we've got someone bitching here about a lack of Jon Hamm in the trailer, when we got a whole lot of Scott Glenn, who makes Jon Hamm look like fucking Jake Gyllenhaal in terms of badassery.

The funny thing is how the trailer manages to sidestep A.) the lobotomy ticking clock and B.) the entire brothel level of reality (which, hey, is why this trailer is also Hamm-free). The way the trailer sells it, she's in an asylum and is imagining she's in WWI trenches and Japanese dojos and on space trains, rather than the much more insane and interesting "she's in an asylum and imagines that it's a brothel to reflect the horrible reality of her imprisonment, and through song and dance in the brothel level we're dropped even further into the separate, free-of-the-bonds-of-reality levels of her and her friends' internal mental projections."

Of course, then again, how the fuck do you get that across clearly in two and a half minutes? I'm not sure it's even possible. This movie has screamed "marketer's nightmare" since the first hints of the plot synopsis came out way back when.

What the fuck? Speed ramping is the process of speeding up and then slowing down the film. Whether it's done artificially or in-camera, it's still speed ramping. What's with the sneer?

You must love REPO: THE GENETIC OPERA.

Look, this kind of wacky mind-trip shit is a real fine tightrope to walk. Forgive us for doubting that the guy whose projects have been horrendously thematically lunkheaded so far will be able to pull it off. You've clearly already decided that he has done just that, so kudos to you I guess.

And you've clearly already decided that he didn't.

Not at all. I think the trailer looks like the same old Zack Snyder, that's all. If he's pulled off something genuinely interesting beyond the eye-candy I'll be as happy as anyone. I've been rooting for the guy since he landed WATCHMEN. But Cameo over there seems pretty sold on the movie already, and seems to be taking offence that people aren't digging the trailers et cetera.

Burden of proof's on Snyder.

And yeah, unless you're following every detail of this thing, how in sweet fuck am I supposed to glean anything mentioned in post 112 from the trailer? Answer: I AM NOT

So there are three levels of "reality" going on. So what. Still looks videogame-anime retardo.

So she fantasises she's in a brothel, then during THAT fantasy she imagines all this other shit? Snyder is no Chris Nolan - that's a serious juggling act there.

I don't mean this to rain on a number of people's parades, but - like so much in that trailer and the teaser - it's either so convinced it's "awesomez" or desperately trying to be that it just comes off really amateurish... even with a muscular budget and savvy director behind it.

The promise of all the scantily-clad Jena Malone I could ask for isn't even enough to make this a must-see for me, and that's really saying something. Let's face it: this is the kind of film that wants to lure you in for just that kind of reason and it's failing on even that level.

You and me both, your future eminence. You and me both.

Dialogue contest:

Sucker Punch: "The fifth thing is a mystery."
Transformers: The Movie: "I've got better things to do tonight than die!"

Advantage: Transformers: The Movie.

Hundred's "Looks like a video game I wouldn't play" line was perfect, by the way.

The appreciation for Transformers: The Movie, I keep seeing popping up in this thread, better be ironic.

Snobbery must be stopped... no matter the cost.

And yet... oh, the comments on that to come.

I feel like the inevitable comparisons to Inception are going to really grate on me.

Hey, Nolan did FOUR levels of reality. Suck on that, Snyder!

One shot in the trailer that made me chuckle was one where 2 of the girls are sneaking into a caged door. All the other shots around it are sped-up and slowed-down with fancy camera moves and insane action! And then... a completely stationary shot where two girls are sneaking. No speed-ramping or anything!

By virtue of contrast, the shot sticks out as mundane and became the MOST INTENSE SHOT IN THE TRAILER!

This looks like the retarded cousin of Pan's Labyrinth.

Interesting that you would bring del Toro's film up right as I talked to a friend who has friends who supposedly saw a screener of the film (I know, I know...).

The gist of it is that:
-it's very much like Pan's Labyrinth in that it's mostly set in the 'real world.'
-there's actually not that much giant robot vs school girl action
-most of such action is seen in the trailer
-the story is primarily set within the asylum

Now, if any of this is actually true:
-I'm much more interested in the film
-people are gonna be piiiiiiiissed because of the expectations set by the marketing

Boy I hope your friend's friends are full of crap because that just sounds...meh (though I wouldn't hold it against Snyder, plenty of movies have had the old trailer bait and switch foisted upon them).

Right now Joss Whedon is furiously masturbating.

This is Bayonetta the movie. That's a bad thing.

Pan's Labyrinth was outstanding, but I was taken aback by how much the fantasy stuff was pushed in the trailers compared to how much was on screen in the actual film. What was sold was definitely not what was delivered. A female friend of mine, walking out, said that she felt mind-raped by it. She expected a nice meal with a nice man, but after taking a few drinks, woke up exhausted, sore and depressed. It reminded me of the marketing for Heavenly Creatures that played up the clay-people fantasy world elements that make up about 30 seconds of the movie. Same could be the case here, but if so, that would indicate restraint Snyder hasn't shown since Dawn of the Dead.

I have to concur when it comes to the offensively trashy/silly (or 'retarded', if you will) tone on display in that trailer. I know that some things are just "not for me" as opposed to being objectively bad, but this does look pretty retarded. I feel somewhat vindicated given the fact that I was placed on TIME OUT earlier this year for suggesting that it was disrespectful for Snyder to bring this kind of nonsense to the genuinely horrific and oft forgotten battle fields of the first world war

Anyway, seeing as this is of no interest to me this is probably one of the last posts I'll make about the film till it comes time to discuss it's BO

*If* the fantasy elements of Sucker Punch are not as prevalent as they appear, this would imply many more scenes of Snyder-penned drama and dialogue. Oh, the horror.

That was a seriously awesome trailer. I didn't really know what to make of it before since I had no idea what it was. Not too sure I know what it is now other than it's a weird fantasy that possibly takes place in someones mind, although I bet that's just a red herring. But it looks absolutely amazing. The giant robot towards the end of the trailer, how cool is that? I have a feeling this movie is going to be awesome.