The 2012 Elections Thread - Page 50

It's got to be frustrating for the guy, though.  He spends a decade or so preparing to win the nomination of a party that had fully identified itself as that of the rich and soon-to-be-rich (or "middle class", as it's sometimes known), where the rhetoric contained a healthy amount of outright contempt for the poor.  Now all of a sudden the landscape has changed, and he's got to preach trickle-down economics to crowds that are scraping to stay above the poverty line, which is a much tougher sell than a few short years ago when the entire GOP base viewed itself as upwardly mobile.  It's enough to give anyone rhetorical whiplash, but for a synthetic vocal interface unit like Romney, for whom the examination and rendering of human emotion will forever be a work in progress, it has to be extra difficult.

 I've seen the clip of Mitt saying corpartions are people too. He truly meant that That is also a great reason not to vote for him.

That last comment put amusing thought of Romney being stuck in a dog kennel atop a speeding car.  But seriously Mitt trying to come off as "normal folk" is laughable and insulting. 

My question is.   Why is Romney a frontrunner?   Does it really come down to pragmatism?   That he looks the most mainstream of all the candidates and can therefore win the general?   I would really love to meet a person who is genuinely fired up about a Romney presidency.   I'm not talking about a person fired up about Romney because he has the best chance of taking down Obama but someone excited about Romney's vision of America.   I have a theory that person doesn't exist.

In that way, Romney kinda feels like the GOP version of Kerry.  

 

I don't recall anyone being all that excited for Kerry.  Just that he wasn't Bush.

Yeah I could see that but unlike Romney, Kerry was liked by the Democrats and was seen as being somewhat strong due to his record and military service and got his party's support easily something Romney can't do. I see Mitt as more like the modern Republican version of Edmund Muskie. The guy the establishment was pushing the the "best chance to beat Nixon" and was the inevitable front-runner but got embarrassed and looked like a total loser and was vastly rejected by the voters. I guess that would make Santorum the GOP McGovern, Gingrich would be Humphrey and Paul would be Wallace. It's kind of funny how comparable the 2012 and 1972 elections are although maybe it's just that I finished Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail by Hunter S Thompson; great book by the way.

I have a theory that person is Mitt Romney.

 

There's this guy.

I just love this in oh so many ways:

 

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/02/19/arizona-sheriff-resigns-from-romney-campaign-committee/

 

Lemme sum up with a quote from the article --

 

"A nationally known sheriff resigned from presidential hopeful Mitt Romney's Arizona committee and acknowledged he was gay after a Mexican immigrant with whom he had a relationship accused him of threatening to have him deported. Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu denied he had threatened the Mexican immigrant, a former campaign volunteer, with deportation if he made their past relationship public."

 

A closeted gay Arizona Republican anti-immigrant sheriff was having an affair with a gay Mexican immigrant. You can't write this stuff.  

 

I feel the problem the GOP will run into during the elections is that there is no front-runner in the GOP for president.  Usually, one person pulls away from everyone else by the time they're ready to name the party nominee for president (GOP or Democrat).  But as much as everyone wants to say Romney is the clear-cut guy, he still is losing to Gingrich, Santorum, etc., across the various states.  Even the voters can't all get behind one candidate.  And if that's the case, what's the hope of a GOP candidate winning the election?  

 

I will once again be voting 3rd party/anyone but the Big 2 parties this year.  I'm more libertarian than anything, and I can't stand any of the GOP candidates (other than Paul, because he's essentially a libertarian), and I'm not voting for Obama.
 

 

 

"Go ahead, throw your vote away! HAHAHAH"

 

Basically the Republican party wrapped up in one guy. 

The thing is, the fact that Romney's unpopular with the base doesn't necessarily hurt him in the general. In fact, it may be a sign that he's the most electable. Of course, it depends on why the base doesn't like him--if it's his moderate politics or weird religion, that's not as big a deal when the whole country's voting as opposed to the hardcore. But if they dislike him for the same reasons everyone else dislikes him--he's a rich, privileged git who reminds everyone of the guy who Home Office sent to downsize their department--then OK, that is a reflection of how hosed he is in the general.

I was going to say something about how Santorum is clanging on about Obama being an extreme environmentalist, and how is it in any way Christian to let corporations rape the earth?

 

But screw it, here's a happy baby and a cat.  

 

 

You're welcome.

Edited by MrBananaGrabber - 2/20/12 at 10:53am

Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

But that cat is totally going to fuck up the baby with it's razor sharp cat claws.

c'mon, everyone knows that the photo above is just part of the liberal NACBLA agenda....first it's cats, then it'll be dogs....the next thing you know people will be marrying their pet snakes...then trees and hamburgers and televisions and...and...WHERE WILL IT STOP??

 

- I'm Rick Santorum and I approve this message.

 

I would marry the living shit out of a hamburger right now and then promptly be arrested for spousal murder/cannibalism.

Quote:

I'm just so happy that that's a white baby there. If you're going to reignite the Aryan dream, I can't think of a more adorable way to do it.

 

The cat's all "I CAN HAZ RACIAL PURITY?"

There's something really foreboding about that baby's expression. Staring pensively off into the distance, thinking of a day he'll have to fight - nay, kill - to save his friend the cat. Or maybe he imagines a murder-suicide would just be easier. 

Lars Von Trier's Calvin & Hobbes

In a world..where babies and cats must fight...

 

ONE SHALL STAND UP AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

WHISKAZ MACHT FREI

 

In some ways, he's worse than Kerry or Gore. First of all, GOP primary voters are a lot more inclined to support whoever is "next in line" so for them to revolt is a bigger deal than when it happens with the Democrats. Romney has built up so much hatred by the base, he almost seems like the GOP's Lieberman or dictionary-definition of RINO.

and now on Bizzaro GOP world.....

 

 

it would seem Santorum has gone "all in" with the crazy.....

 

Seriously, if this was the plot of a movie, it'd be lambasted for its obvious Sundance pandering and upper class liberal condescension towards the South. I love it.

 

Wait, are we posting cute pictures with encoded racial messages now?

 

 

"Listen carefully, children! WE are the SUPERIOR race! This world is OURS to inherit! You shall grow up STRONG! You shall DOMINATE the lesser races! The future is ours, and one day we shall RISE UP to claim our rightful heritage! Raise your tiny fluffy paws in salute! HEIL!"

Rick Santorum always looks like he's morally outraged at something or someone just let out a vicious fart

 

"First they came for the Schnauzers and I said nothing...""

Enough with the hatred people - love!

 

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOVE!!!!!!!!

 

(it's okay Rick, the puppies a boy and the rabbits a girl)

"All this heavy talk is, like, seriously bringing me down. Down, boy, down"

 

 

 

 

 

Dammit! That's why I had to post Baby + Cat.  Read the whole article, it's a mind-breaker.  Where/when did the climate-change-is-a-hoax thing start?  It's coupled with this denial that humans can have any negative impact on the planet.  I mean, I can guess who is behind it, but how did it enter the public consciousness?  

There's plenty of Biblical backing for the idea that the Earth was put here for us to do with as we wish.

 

"You will hear those on the Left say that there exists a line that separates "stupid" from "crazy". Well, I'm here tonight to tell you that there is no line!"

 

 

 

Fixed, because people are determined to use the Bible/Koran/Torah/Manchester United tomes any way they want to commit violence and control others. As CS Lewis said, "The answer to such people is that if they cannot understand books written for grown-ups, they should not talk about them."

The national debate isn't going to go anywhere unless we stop pretending like there exists some kind of superior wisdom within ignorance.

 

"Momma would tell you to go fuck yourself, Art Decade."

What gets me about Santorum quotes are the things he leaves out, that I would expect a decent and civilized human being to mention. The man who obsesses over your right to marry at all mentions his wife only in the context of how many children she's borne, never mentioning love or intimacy when he talks about his marriage or yours. The guy who serves as the face for the Catholic Church's assault on contraception never seems to take into consideration the moral obligation to leave to our descendants a world that isn't a toxic landfill. Santorum is competing with televangelists to be the poster boy for completely insincere expressions of faith as a guise for one's personal hangups.

Silly, the purpose of marriage is to breed plenty of new followers!  That's the only thing that makes all that icky sex worth it.

 

One of the biggest "DUH!" moments in my life - and I'm way too embarrassed to admit when it came  - was this realization about certain religions' stress on the size of your family and/or its stance on contraception. If converts are hard to come, just grow your own!

 

What the devil is this all about?

I always thought the natural conclusion for Forest Gump was to become President and trigger a nuclear holocaust. They pussed out on that ending. 

if you look up the word 'hypocrisy' in the dictionary now, it just has a picture of Adelson with the "Scanners" gif right next to it....

 

 

 

 

 

Not to put words in Merriweather's mouth, but I think he was making the ironic joke by taking a movie character revered for his ingorant wisdom and telling you how the staunch religious right would react to your comment. I, for one, laughed hilariously.
 

 

Franklin Graham isn't sure Obama is a Christian....

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/franklin-graham-obama_n_1290657.html

 

 

 

You have to think Mike Wallace and Billy Graham get together at the Sizzler on Sunday and talk about how lame their offspring are.     I mean c'mon.   THIS again?