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post #2551 of 10454

Rick Santorum looks like an evil Jerry Seinfeld.

 

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post #2552 of 10454

Fucking Paul. "Voting for Planned Parenthood is voting for abortion"...It's also voting for low cost to free prenatal and gynecology care for those working poor and 'certain ethnic groups'. Y'know, those planning to keep the babies you profess to care so much about. 

post #2553 of 10454

(Also, maybe we should take our live running commentary to the chat?)

post #2554 of 10454

I actually like it here.   For posterity....

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Originally Posted by SeanCE View Post

Rick Santorum looks like an evil Jerry Seinfeld.


speaking of.....if you can't correctly quote Seinfeld, don't bother to attempt it at all...

 

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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post

So let me get this straight.   All the candidates are talking about how black people are having babies out of wedlock but they are against birth control which would prevent those babies from being conceived.   Jeez....



The poor working class has to maintain its numbers.

post #2557 of 10454

And now we're pandering to Arizona White People.

post #2558 of 10454

I can't watch the debate as the video won't play for me, but I'm following the Guardian's live text coverage which is pretty good and concise with highlighting the more, uh, fucking MENTAL things they say. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/23/cnn-republican-debate-live?newsfeed=true

post #2559 of 10454

Holy Christ: "When we come back we're going to ask each candidate to describe themselves in one word!"

 

I wish they were asked to describe an opposing candidate in one word: that could be Gold.

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From another message board:

 

Somebody did a word cloud:

Number of times the word "Women" was used in the entire birth control segment: 0

post #2561 of 10454

Ron Paul is worried the Draft could come back.

post #2562 of 10454

I can not wait for Obama to tear up the eventual nominee on foriegn policy....

 

"Not tough on foreign policy?   Not tough on foreign policy?!?!"

 

<takes out Osama bin Laden's severed head t>

 

"Guess who else though that way"

post #2563 of 10454
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I can not wait for Obama to tear up the eventual nominee on foriegn policy....

 

"Not tough on foreign policy?   Not tough on foreign policy?!?!"

 

<takes out Osama bin Laden's severed head t>

 

"Guess who else though that way"

 

perhaps something along the lines of when O Ren Ishi is talking to the Yakuza in Kill Bill v.1  ...?
 

 

post #2564 of 10454

Do you want to trust a president to wage a war on Iran when he doesn't know that the president has no power in that country?

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Do you want to trust a president to wage a war on Iran when he doesn't know that the president has no power in that country?



He will once we occupy them!

post #2566 of 10454

Newt's audition for SNL = Teh Fail.

post #2567 of 10454

Looks like this might be the last debate of the GOP primary season.   The winner tonight for the 20th straight time and still undefeated: Barrack Hussein Obama.

post #2568 of 10454

The last question is of course, a stupid one. "Tell us what is the biggest misconception about you?"

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Laugh all you want dynamotv. Do you realize that 10% of all Americans are born Black?!



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post #2570 of 10454

goddamnit....no one brought up any of the possible moonbase related issues...

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Thread Starter 
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They ... they want to win, right?



A Republican has no hope of carrying Michigan in the general election. At this point, they could eat babies live on tv and it won't change the final outcome. 

post #2572 of 10454

Wait so Santorum argues that whoever gets the GOP nomination is up against Obama's money machine, which would logically lead one to choose Romney, but no, you don't want someone with a large campaign warchest, you want someone who can run on a shoe string. Wut?

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goddamnit....no one brought up any of the possible moonbase related issues...



No "Space Coast" in AZ.

post #2574 of 10454

Funny that Romney dodged the misconception question and was a dick about being reminded what the question was.   It's funny, after 20 or so debates, I have a pretty good bead on Paul, Gingrich and Santorum but still have no idea what to make of Romney.   The only time I felt I saw the real Romney was when he defended the bank bailouts.   The rest of the time it feels like he's spouting off talking points that are painstakingly focus grouped for maximum appeal.    The guy is just aggressively bland.

post #2575 of 10454

So, just to diverge slightly, when has it become the policy of these candidates to openly mock the French?

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/feb/22/rick-santorum/rick-santorum-says-you-cant-name-one-time-last-20-/

 

First Gingrich's absurd line about Romney being able to speak French, and now Santorum's gross oversimplication of US-French relations.

post #2576 of 10454

So after the debate I took a "power walk" with the Soundtrack to the South Park movie playing on my iPod. Palate Cleanser or Double Feature? You decide!

 

I think I figured out what Santorum's argument was in that last question. You see, because Obama can outspend him, Santorum can only win on a faith based campaign. Thus, if Santroum wins, it is proof of the existence of God.

post #2577 of 10454

Mitt Romney tried to quote Seinfeld tonight and didn't do so well:

 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/scott/romney-misquotes-george-costanza

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post #2579 of 10454

Bill Maher weighs in on the debate last night....

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/republican-debate-review_b_1296036.html

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The Republicans sure have the right symbol with the elephant. Republican debates are nothing but elephants in the room.

 

The biggest of which must be: to someone out there who's hurting, they spend the whole two hours yammering away about earmarks and illegal immigrants and contraception and every other peripheral, wish-I-had-the-time-to-worry-about-it issue they can think of.

 

Then there is the elephant of how they all -- with the sometime exception of Ron Paul -- nod along to insane statements just because they don't want to ever look like they're to the left of anybody, on anything, especially the evilness of Barack Obama. So Wednesday night when Newt said the president of the United States had a history of practicing infanticide... yep, yep, yessir, that's what he does all right. Clubs infants like baby seals in his spare time. Ike played golf, Kennedy liked boating...

 

Ron Paul said foreign aid just helps our enemies. Which, I believe, would make Israel and Egypt our two biggest enemies. Yup, yup, hate foreign aid. A meaningless percentage of the budget, btw.

 

Newt said where government becomes the central provider of services, it's a move towards tyranny -- yeah, except in all the countries where it isn't, like all of Scandanavia and much of Europe. Today a barium enema paid for by medicare, tomorrow Poland.

 

And isn't a highlight of every debate when Mitt Romney takes umbrage at being accused of the best thing he ever did in his life -- Romneycare? Something he should be proud of? Last night he took out his dueling glove and declared that when he was governor, he made sure there was NO requirement from the church to provide morning after pills for rape victims. They will be punished with a baby, as Jesus would want. Mitt's attitude is always, "How dare you accuse me of helping people or being compassionate! Why, I'll have you know I'm every bit as much of a cold hearted bastard as any of these other pricks up here with me!"

 

"But Mitt, we have a picture of you giving money to a homeless person."

 

"I did NOT give a bum money! I was paying him to blow me!"

 

<cont.>

 

post #2580 of 10454

Once again, Jon Stewart proves he's a national treasure by showcasing how crazy the GOP has become....

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/23/jon-stewart-gop-obama-fear-mongering_n_1296123.html

 

Also, did Romney do a flip flop last night with the auto bailout saying that he would let GM go into bankruptcy and then swoop in and help them out?     Looking at last night's debate, it occurred to me that these idiots only watch FOX News because their view of America and what's coming out of their mouths is like Christmas to the Obama campaign.    His negative ads will probably just consist of excerpts from the GOP debates.   Stick an "I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message" on it and call it a day.

post #2581 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Draco Senior View Post

Mitt Romney tried to quote Seinfeld tonight and didn't do so well:

 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/scott/romney-misquotes-george-costanza



"This reminds me of the fictional character Gary Seinfeld that you subhumans enjoy so thoroughly, ha ha ha ha. He was a truly humorous creation. We are not so different, you and I, is the point I am illustrating! I also enjoy trees." 

post #2582 of 10454

I don't understand how you guys do it.  I can't even with these people. 

post #2583 of 10454

Come on, yt, you can't even muster some schaudenfreude over how desperately these yokes are competing for the privilege of getting their teeth kicked in in the general?  I would think even the most hyper-partisan of us would find some amusement in how these guys are at each others' throats for what amounts to a starting position on the Washington Generals.

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Come on, yt, you can't even muster some schaudenfreude over how desperately these yokes are competing for the privilege of getting their teeth kicked in in the general?  I would think even the most hyper-partisan of us would find some amusement in how these guys are at each others' throats for what amounts to a starting position on the Washington Generals.



Is anyone else wondering if the Republican powers that be are throwing this election for some nefarious purpose.  Maybe they know there's a lot more economic disaster on the horizon, and they want Obama to be in charge when it all hits the fan. That way, the Dems are left holding the bag. Or am I giving the Republicans too much credit? It just seems crazy that this is the best candidates that they can produce for a national election.

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I don't understand how you guys do it.  I can't even with these people. 


 

It's a reality show and like Schwartz said, there's something extremely satisfying to see these GOP candidates reaping what their party sowed by radicalizing the Republican Party and encouraging the Tea Party movement.   I can guarantee you that with the exception of Santorum, each of these candidates are not comfortable saying some of the things they have to say to get out of primary season.

post #2586 of 10454
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Is anyone else wondering if the Republican powers that be are throwing this election for some nefarious purpose.  Maybe they know there's a lot more economic disaster on the horizon, and they want Obama to be in charge when it all hits the fan. That way, the Dems are left holding the bag. Or am I giving the Republicans too much credit? It just seems crazy that this is the best candidates that they can produce for a national election.



I think it's straight up pragmatism at play here and not some nefarious scheme.   If you look at the candidates, they are at best the B- Team.   Even Romney who is the strongest of the lot is still weak sauce like Dukakis, Kerry and Dole.   With the economy improving and Obama's impressive foreign policy victories, alot of the A-Listers saw the writing on the wall and decided to wait until 2016.   It's sort of what happened in 2004 with the possibility of Hillary running in that cycle.

post #2587 of 10454

I remember when Dole ran in '96, it felt like, "Fine, you've waited, it's your turn, now run, lose and go away."  This year's Republican slate feels the same way.

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I am a moderate man, socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I tend to vote a straight "Toss the Rascals out" anti-incumbent. I have voted in 12 years for 1 Republican, 1 Democrat, and 1 Constitionalist for president; a Democrat and Republican for governor; at alternating times both parties and myself for Congress. I attend meet the voter events, and have met my current local, state, and federal elected officials. (Lamar Alexander before he became a Senator, but whatever. :D) I am the definition of a Southern moderate.

 

But this stuff has turned me off. The Religious Zealot, the Ivory Tower, the Moneyed Lord, and the Texan Mujahideen keep saying the dumbest things to everyone they meet. I think they have forgotten that the internet exists because all their ideas or statements are cataloged for easy viewing.  The debates may have helped them consolidate their base, but it is pushing the moderates away. If they go any further right, they are going to loop around and suddenly become Leftists. The Republicans keep nominating the worser of two evils or stunt casting with Palin. My local Republicans are legislating from their pulpit or personal morals while outspending their Democratic rivals. My state Republicans think they are running against Obama and pontificate wildly, and my congressman is a cold, lizard-like lawyer who is in Congress for... the business connections?

 

I am almost willing to give money to Chuck Woolery's Restart Congress campaign.

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But this stuff has turned me off. The Religious Zealot, the Ivory Tower, the Moneyed Lord, and the Texan Mujahideen keep saying the dumbest things to everyone they meet.
 

 

I don't watch professional wrasslin' but god damn if that doesn't sound like that could be one of the most awesome Wrestlemania cage matches ever held.

Slap some masks on those guys and book Madison Sq. Garden....BROKEREDCONVENTIONMANIA !!!!

 

 

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I am almost willing to give money to Chuck Woolery's Restart Congress campaign.

 

as far as Chuckie goes....fuck him.

 

a quote from him at the recent CPAC meeting

 

“Majority rules,” he said, dismissing the idea that minorities need protections. “We were born with natural rights. We don’t need civil rights. [African-Americans] don’t need civil rights. They don’t need them. They have inalienable rights granted by God in the Constitution. I mean, I’m discriminated against all the time. I don’t care. It doesn’t bother me. [I’m discriminated against] because I’m old. I’m too old to get a job as a game show host. They say, well, the guy’s 71 and in five years he’ll be 76. And I’m a one per center, and I’m absolutely discriminated against as a one per center.”

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Originally Posted by BlackyShimSham View Post

"This reminds me of the fictional character Gary Seinfeld that you subhumans enjoy so thoroughly, ha ha ha ha. He was a truly humorous creation. We are not so different, you and I, is the point I am illustrating! I also enjoy trees." 

 

"That's sold, Gary! Sold!"

post #2591 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post

I remember when Dole ran in '96, it felt like, "Fine, you've waited, it's your turn, now run, lose and go away."  This year's Republican slate feels the same way.


 

I feel like this a lot, but then I remember a wise man once said, "Great, kid. Don't get cocky." 

post #2592 of 10454

I can't watch this GOP primary unfiltered but I can watch msnbc gawk in disbelief and as the "candidates" double down on CRAZY. I dunno what's going to happen in the fall but I'm sure it will tighten up once the primaries are over. It will be a testament to the electorate's collective amnesia if the voters don't take all this angry hate (not to mention the religious and economic extremism) into consideration when it comes time to vote.

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I thought this article was interesting, that the Republicans have created a fictional construct of President Obama that they're running against. Which is going to be a problem when they have to actually run against the actual President Obama.

 

http://open.salon.com/blog/kemstone/2012/02/10/the_fictional_obama

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I thought this article was interesting, that the Republicans have created a fictional construct of President Obama that they're running against. Which is going to be a problem when they have to actually run against the actual President Obama.

 

http://open.salon.com/blog/kemstone/2012/02/10/the_fictional_obama

 

When Mitt "the trees are the right height" Romney has to stand across the debate stage from Obama, it's going to be a completely different game.

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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

Come on, yt, you can't even muster some schaudenfreude over how desperately these yokes are competing for the privilege of getting their teeth kicked in in the general?  I would think even the most hyper-partisan of us would find some amusement in how these guys are at each others' throats for what amounts to a starting position on the Washington Generals.


I would feel a lot more comfortable laughing at these clowns if I didn't fear their awe-inspiring acumen at marketing and cheating.

 

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Originally Posted by Dr Vivisector View Post
Is anyone else wondering if the Republican powers that be are throwing this election for some nefarious purpose.  Maybe they know there's a lot more economic disaster on the horizon, and they want Obama to be in charge when it all hits the fan. That way, the Dems are left holding the bag. Or am I giving the Republicans too much credit? It just seems crazy that this is the best candidates that they can produce for a national election.


They hate Romney almost as much as they hated McCain, so could be.

 

 

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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post

 

It's a reality show and like Schwartz said, there's something extremely satisfying to see these GOP candidates reaping what their party sowed by radicalizing the Republican Party and encouraging the Tea Party movement.   I can guarantee you that with the exception of Santorum, each of these candidates are not comfortable saying some of the things they have to say to get out of primary season.


That's the only good part, and I can usually rely on you guys or others to send me youtubes of choice moments.

 

Taibbi wrote an elegant piece about this last point:  http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/arizona-debate-conservative-chickens-come-home-to-roost-20120223

 

post #2596 of 10454

Ever notice that Snaieke fucking vanishes as soon as the economy does better and the GOP goes into full on crazy mode? Wonder when he'll be back? Probably once employment/stock numbers start to stall or slump, or the next time he reads a whistling in the dark poll from a Republican devoted source. 

post #2597 of 10454

Unti then Parker he'll be in our hearts.

post #2598 of 10454

With all the much deserved GOP mocking, we should remember that Obama and the Dems could be better.

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/obamas-war-on-pot-20120216?link=mostpopular4

 

  Of course I'm still going to vote for Obama. I like that Bin Laden is dead, we're out of Iraq, there is healthcare reform and the economy is improving.

post #2599 of 10454

Can you believe it was only a few months ago that Herman Cain was still in the race?  

 

Still feeling that Wonkette nostalgia, here's a bit from Ana Marie Cox:

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/ana-marie-cox-blog/2012/feb/23/arizona-cnn-debate-republican-unreality-show

 

 

 

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Of course, the paucity of economic discussion at the debate means that its real winner was President Obama. The more Republicans tangle with subjects that you wouldn't actually want to talk about at the kitchen table (homosexuality, contraception, Satan), the more they lose those voters who are using that kitchen table for paying bills.

 

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When Mitt "the trees are the right height" Romney has to stand across the debate stage from Obama, it's going to be a completely different game.


The way things are going, he may be so lucky to even get that far.

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