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post #3051 of 10454

Gingrich is actually running a close second in both races, so I don't think he's planning on dropping out any time soon.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post

Gingrich is actually running a close second in both races, so I don't think he's planning on dropping out any time soon.



Yeah true, really depends on what happens come Louisiana. But Gingrich would probably just be happy to make Romney's life miserable and prevent him from getting the "magic number" come August after what happened in Iowa and Florida. 

 

Also I heard this story that Mitt actually running out of money with this tough primary battle which I find very interesting and funny,

 

edit: Santorum has officially won both Mississippi and Alabama. Bad, bad day for both Gingrich and Romney.


Edited by Arturo RJ - 3/13/12 at 7:53pm
post #3053 of 10454

Santorum took Mississippi and Alabama, but Newt and Romney were not actually very far behind.  It was by no means a wide-margin victory in either state.  In Mississippi, it was just a scant few percentage points between Santorum and Newt, who came in 2nd before Romney each time.

post #3054 of 10454

Their convention is looking like it's going to be a blood bath.

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Originally Posted by Parker View Post

Their convention is looking like it's going to be a blood bath.

 

excellent....
 

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post #3056 of 10454

You mean Romney saying he likes grits and saying "Y'all" didn't help him?   I find it fascinating that every time Romney tries his hand at being normal, he seems even more abnormal.   Check out this clip from the Daily Show...

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/jon-stewart-mitt-romney-southern-pandering_n_1340957.html

 

See if you don't cringe when Romney tries to say "Y'all"

post #3057 of 10454
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Originally Posted by yt View Post

On the Alexandra Pelosi piece, I wish the Democrats would pay some think tanks to figure out how to speak to those people.  The left raises their eyebrows and scratches their heads, but there's got to be a way to reach them (not counting using lowest common denominator racism and ego-stroking about "real America" and "get govmint off my back" catch-phrases). 



They live in an emotion driven world of how things make them feel with no interest in facts, logic or rational thought. This isn't an opinion.

 

How exactly do you try and enlighten someone that doesn't have any interest in honest rational engagement?

post #3058 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Draco Senior View Post

Santorum took Mississippi and Alabama, but Newt and Romney were not actually very far behind.  It was by no means a wide-margin victory in either state. 



True, but you have to take into account that Mitt Romney outspent his opponents 5.5 to 1 - yes, thats five and a half times as much money spent on running ads in states he placed third in. 

 

It's actually sort of heart-warming. Money can't buy everything. 

post #3059 of 10454
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post

You mean Romney saying he likes grits and saying "Y'all" didn't help him?   I find it fascinating that every time Romney tries his hand at being normal, he seems even more abnormal.   Check out this clip from the Daily Show...

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/jon-stewart-mitt-romney-southern-pandering_n_1340957.html

 

See if you don't cringe when Romney tries to say "Y'all"



Does anyone else get a bizarro Jean Ralphio vibe from Romney when he quotes song lyrics? You can tell he knows he should stop, but he just has to finish the entire verse. And the chorus.

post #3060 of 10454
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post
How exactly do you try and enlighten someone that doesn't have any interest in honest rational engagement?


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j/k ....?

 

or maybe....

 

post #3061 of 10454
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Originally Posted by BlackyShimSham View Post



True, but you have to take into account that Mitt Romney outspent his opponents 5.5 to 1 - yes, thats five and a half times as much money spent on running ads in states he placed third in. 

 

It's actually sort of heart-warming. Money can't buy everything. 



 After reading this I stopped being bitter and cynical for a whole five minutes.

post #3062 of 10454

According to Newt, he's not leaving the race "for Mitt Romney" and still has a chance to pull an upset because he's doing better in the South.

 

This guy is determined to stay in for as long as possible, I'll give him that.

post #3063 of 10454

I think they'll wait until the convention and pull Jeb Bush out of their asses because A: it would cause a stir ala Palin and B: These knuckle dragging cretins still believe that Bush did a great job and C: it means that they have avoided the endless debates and kept Jeb from being scrutinized.

post #3064 of 10454

Jeb Bush would get slaughtered against Obama.

post #3065 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Draco Senior View Post

According to Newt, he's not leaving the race "for Mitt Romney" and still has a chance to pull an upset because he's doing better in the South.

 

This guy is determined to stay in for as long as possible, I'll give him that.



Newt's not leaving because he's raking in the dough.

 

 

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Gingrich, meanwhile, directly benefits from continuing to run. His campaign has paid him, personally, more than $100,000 in "unspecified expenses in what amounted to petty cash," as the Washington Times' Luke Roziak puts it. The Gingrich campaign has also paid or otherwise subsidized Gingrich's for-profit enterprises, in the process raising his profile and, presumably, his speaking fees. Gingrich's top aides are rewarding themselves with plenty of Sheldon Adelson money, too -- one super-PAC aide paid herself $220,000 for about 10 weeks of work.

 

There are also other articles out there describing how his "media" compaies have earned a fortune from the Adelson Super Pac money.

post #3066 of 10454

Thinking from the ugly montage of pupp-kicking clips that is Newt's perspective, there is zero for him to be gained if he drops out now. He's making money, he''s got the party focused on him, and he's pissing Romney off. The kudos he'd get for dropping out is chump change compared to such rewards.

post #3067 of 10454

If this actually goes to a brokered convention, the GOP might as well not even run. They'll have three months to Obama's four years to win anyone outside the base. They needed to have this wrapped up on Super Tuesday, but that didn't happen, and unlike the Hillary/Obama fight, no one is particularly interested by any of these candidates.

post #3068 of 10454

I think this campaign would have been over if it weren't for Super PACs and "Citizens United".   The reason Newt is still running is because he has a billionaire sugar daddy investing $5-$10 million whenever he runs low on cash.   I'm sure Santorum has someone like that too.   If it was still against the law for companies and private citizens to donate unlimited amounts of money to a campaign, Super Tuesday would have been a coronation instead of another primary contest.

 

Also, everyone says that Romney has the best chance of beating Obama but for some reason I'd be more worried about Santorum.   If he chills out on the social issues and just talks about the economy, he could be a force to be reckoned with.   Add to that, I imagine he can inspire the grass roots of his party in a way that Newt and Mitt just can't.   Romney, while looking and sounding presidential, is so plastic and fake that I sincerely doubt there's anyone out there who actually likes him or is looking forward to his presidency.   It would be hard for him to garner traction in the general.

post #3069 of 10454
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Originally Posted by dynamotv View Post

Also, everyone says that Romney has the best chance of beating Obama but for some reason I'd be more worried about Santorum.   If he chills out on the social issues and just talks about the economy, he could be a force to be reckoned with. 



Thing is, it's the social issues that have given Santorum his current momentum.

post #3070 of 10454

I find Romney far more worrisome because he seems much more tractable to special interests and anyone with influence. Santorum's rigidity, which makes him appealing as a candidate to some, would make him a horrible president. There's no way he'd be able to force his hyper-conservative, fundamentalist Catholic agenda on the nation, especially with a Democratically-led Senate. And if Santorum were to become president and then did a lot of compromising, that'd hose him for re-election in four years, as the very people who supported would think of him as a sellout.

 

Romney's willingness to say and do anything to make the leadership happy is serious cause for concern, especially since it seems like the GOP really, really wants to go to war with Iran.

post #3071 of 10454

Santorum is talking the right kind of crazy for the right kind of crazies that will win him primaries, but Presidential Nominee Rick Santorum will be the death knell of the GOP. Moderates and fiscal conservatives will flee the party; many are already wary. He will be the perfect visual of a party folding in on itself and becoming an harbinger of outdated viewpoints, unacceptable in a modern world.

 

I'm actually OK with that.

post #3072 of 10454

How did we miss this Santorum zinger:

 

 

 

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"The dangers of carbon dioxide? Tell that to a plant, how dangerous carbon dioxide is," he said.

 

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2012/03/13/rick-santorum-says-wildly-stupid-thing

post #3073 of 10454

It's actually interesting to note that while the GOP has harbored the hard-right fundamentalist vote for decades now, there hasn't ever really been a GOP candidate who directly reflects that. Even Dubya is, after all, an east coast blueblood from a family of poiltical insiders (which is why getting people to accept him as a down-home reg'lar fella who thumps the bible with the best of them was such a masterstroke--the bible belt saw him one way, the smarter entrenched interests saw him more for what he was but were happy to let the charade continue). Up til now, the fundies have always voted the way they're told with the assurance that the money-mongers are gonna keep Jesus in politics and keep the gays in their place and maybe get around to abortion one of these days. For some reason, Romney isn't making this implicit connection, and sad to say, it's probably because of his religion.

 

Nevertheless, Santorum the candidate would be something we've never seen before: an honest-to-God fundamentalist candidate. It's possible that the money men will bite their tongues and get on board with him because he still promotes the values they endorse, but I tend to agree that the guy's unelectable. It's too late to tone down the rhetoric--he's already scared away everyone who isn't a straight white male Christian, and whereas the wonkish/moneyed side of the GOP can keep the fundamentalist side in line, I don't think it'll work the other way around. The old school "country club" Republicans, the ones who aren't big on the culture wars or social conservativism, are going to be driven off.

post #3074 of 10454
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog View Post


They live in an emotion driven world of how things make them feel with no interest in facts, logic or rational thought. This isn't an opinion.

 

How exactly do you try and enlighten someone that doesn't have any interest in honest rational engagement?


What I want to know is, how do you reach them without facts, logic or rational thought, or honest rational engagement?  If those greedy f*&^s in the GOP can do it, why can't the Dems, who would be a far better ally?  In other words, money has figured out how to manipulate the poor, uneducated and God-fearing into helping money make more money and gain more power.  They use them to then turn around and hurt them for their own personal gain.  Why can't the Democrats, who at their best can actually balance the scales a little bit, reach them in an emotionally resonant way that speaks to their deepest selves?  (without resorting to racism or ego-stroking?)

 

post #3075 of 10454
Santorum comes across to me like a twisted sex freak who got lucky and stumbled onto a way of making a career out of it. He seems incapable of talking about much other than "social issues," by which we mean his endless fascination with gay sex. He's Walter from The Big Lebowski, only instead of Vietnam, he brings every conversation back to how tempting he imagines sex with another man to be. I don't think it's an act he puts on when he's in front of a camera. I think he nags his wife about it constantly when he's at home.
post #3076 of 10454

Yeah, I'm guessing his internet search history is a doozy.

post #3077 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post

Yeah, I'm guessing his internet search history is a doozy.



post #3078 of 10454

Some of us Chewers should assemble at one of Santorum's town halls, meetings, what have you, and spontaneously burst into song before we're escorted out:

 

 

Maybe the crowd will sing "God Bless America" back to us.

 

post #3079 of 10454

I don't know if it's been posted yet, and while it probably belongs in the Religion forum, aren't we pretty much talking about the same thing when we talk Politics or Religion? I wonder what The Man himself would view the current political race...

 

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Fireproof

 

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Firepoof

post #3081 of 10454

Basically the best thing ever: Romney as Data

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"Bleep blorp"

post #3083 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer View Post

Yeah, I'm guessing his internet search history is a doozy.

Oh, I'm sure his hard drive looks like the pre-Giuliani Meatpacking District.
post #3084 of 10454

 

quick PS

maybe more yellow?

 

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post #3085 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post




:55-:59 is worthy of Jesus status.

 

post #3086 of 10454

AAArgh this CRT monitor is bullshit!!

post #3087 of 10454

So, allow me to bitch, but I've been seeing this idiotic political cartoon meme showing up on Facebook lately.

 

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I get this isn't meant to be flattering. But uhh...isn't this just fundamentally displaying how our Government works?

post #3088 of 10454

Holy Buckets, I didn't realize how much Chris Christie was hiding under his suit jacket:

 

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post #3089 of 10454

I gave up on trying to find any sort of logic in political cartoons a while back.

post #3090 of 10454

Am I the only one who thought the acting in that Fire Proof clip was on par with a 70's porno?


Edited by Chaz - 3/15/12 at 5:40pm
post #3091 of 10454

I'm in the process of re-watching Game of Thrones and it occurred to me that Mitt Romney is basically a less overtly petulant and better controlled version of Viserys. Which of course makes Obama Khal Drogo come November 4th. biggrin.gif

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...."flat earth society..." biggrin.gif

 

post #3095 of 10454

Not that I don't agree with his sentiments, but the Christopher Columbus analogy? Columbus didn't think the earth was flat, he thought it was bigger than it was. He kickstarted slavery in America, he was a bible-thumping monster, and he went to his grave believing he discovered India. He was less a visionary of progress than the equivalent to those dudes who think Obama was born in Kenya.

post #3096 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Mama-Killin' Gee-Tar View Post

Not that I don't agree with his sentiments, but the Christopher Columbus analogy? Columbus didn't think the earth was flat, he thought it was bigger than it was. He kickstarted slavery in America, he was a bible-thumping monster, and he went to his grave believing he discovered India. He was less a visionary of progress than the equivalent to those dudes who think Obama was born in Kenya.



I don't believe Obama was referring to Columbus (or other explorers of the time) per se, I believe  he was referring to the individuals who didn't like the idea of challenging the status quo and looking for alternate paths to the future....a simplified analogy to be sure but I think it verbalizes the intransigence of the average modern day republican politician.

post #3097 of 10454

How would this even be enforced! God how could anyone with any brain cells would vote for that idiot!

 

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/16/santorum-addresses-pornography-pandemic-position/

post #3098 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Arturo RJ View Post

How would this even be enforced! God how could anyone with any brain cells would vote for that idiot!

 

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/16/santorum-addresses-pornography-pandemic-position/


Outlaw "porn"?! Just what country does this idiot think he's campaigning to govern? Good luck with that, buddy. That's like saying he wants to outlaw Facebook because it destroys inter-family communication. Newt's moonbase is a more realistic prospect.

 

And "porn causes profound changes in the brain chemistry of adults & children"? Man, this cat is so secretly gay, it hurts.

post #3099 of 10454

Well, there's an Internet-killswitch in development (or already finished, I can't remember).  That would put a damper on things.

 

Can't get a new encyclopedia now either, so that's at least two birds with one stone!

post #3100 of 10454
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Originally Posted by Art Decade View Post


Outlaw "porn"?! Just what country does this idiot think he's campaigning to govern? Good luck with that, buddy. That's like saying he wants to outlaw Facebook because it destroys inter-family communication. Newt's moonbase is a more realistic prospect.

Why, he'd enforce a ban on pornography with the power of small government and the free market! That's how that works, right?
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