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post #4051 of 10455
7/11/12 at 6:52pm

Mitt Romney Tried to Rig NAACP Crowd by Flying in His Own African Americans

 

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AAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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post #4052 of 10455
7/11/12 at 7:08pm

I wonder if any of them were these people, who Mitt clearly had no trouble connecting with at all...

 

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post #4053 of 10455
7/11/12 at 7:21pm

"Why is socialism on the rise with African-Americans?"

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post #4054 of 10455
7/11/12 at 7:27pm
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Originally Posted by Martin Blank View Post

Mitt Romney Tried to Rig NAACP Crowd by Flying in His Own African Americans




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AAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

From just where in the fuck did Thurston fly in "his own" black people? Does he literally own some? Maybe on one of the islands where he stashes his money?

Mitt Romney, is this why you won't show us your tax records? Are you a slave owner?

ETA: And why did Jon Stewart pick this week to be on hiatus? A segment on today's NAACP speech would have been GOLD.
Edited by Reasor - 7/11/12 at 8:06pm
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post #4055 of 10455
7/11/12 at 8:08pm
Honestly I don't even know what more to say about Romney self-cannibalization during this campaign. This should be a walk in a park for him the primaries should been a cakewalk and Obama is vulnerable on the issue Romney is suppose to be strong on. Yet he has totally annihilated himself to almost every group that isn't upper middle class of super rich white people. I just find it remarkable how bad of a candidate he is like the neo-con Mondale or McGovern.

Romney better hope he picks an amazing VP pick and gives a great speech at the convention and hides for three months along with his horrid campaign team in a bunker, not unearthing till after election day or he's screwed. Although somehow this might be close ( at worst a 5 point loss for Romney) even though it shouldn't be!
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post #4056 of 10455
7/11/12 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by Arturo RJ View Post

the sad thing is the amount of "Let them eat cake!" moments the Romney campaign has had. Really what will it take for mass public outrage? Maybe the people are just so numb to this by now that no one really cares perhaps that's the saddest thing to take from this election so far is even though Romney is one of the most toxic, atrocious picks ever by the GOP is that it's not enough to quell the "anyone but Obama" sentiment (who I think has done a passable job, not great). Maybe today was a good sign with him getting booed but that might just be an isolated incident like everything else has been.


People who aspire to be Romney admire this shit. Also people who think Jersey Shore is a life to aspire to.

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post #4057 of 10455
7/11/12 at 9:02pm

wow.....Thurston's magic underwear is getting all bunched up.

 

Quote:

 

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/romney-naacp-booing-if-they-want-more-free

 

From Rachel Maddow's show this Wednesday evening, Mitt Romney responded to being booed during his speech at the NAACP for saying he would end "Obamacare," at a fundraiser in Hamilton, Montana and showed his true colors when he said this:

 

 

ROMNEY: Remind them of this, if they want more free stuff from the government tell them to go vote for the other guy -- more free stuff. But don't forget nothing is really free.

 

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post #4058 of 10455
7/11/12 at 9:12pm
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Originally Posted by BlackyShimSham View Post

 

 

As obscene and ugly as that sentiment is, it is true. Lower income people don't know what the fuck is going on. They continually vote against their own interests. I'm a liberal who wants to help them and educate them via social programs, and even I hate them a little bit. I can only image how some sociopathic .01% "personal responsibility" libertarian must feel. No wonder they have no scruples about lying to their faces and stuffing them with misinformation.

 

 

To these people, lower income is all of us, though. So in that sense, it's not completely true. 

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post #4059 of 10455
7/11/12 at 9:21pm
Then you've got the swing voters who can't believe that a politician would run on a promise to phase out Medicare while cutting taxes further for the rich, which is exactly what the Rand Paul budget does. It's as cartoonishly evil as Oilcan Harry tying Pearl Pureheart to the railroad tracks on a Saturday morning. Surely nobody would seriously consider doing that. Surely...
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post #4060 of 10455
7/12/12 at 8:36am
In the wake of Romney's assertion on FOX News that he went in knowing he would be booed, The Daily Beast's Michael Tomasky hypothesizes that the NAACP speech was not an attempt to woo black voters at all, but a piece of race-baiting performance art intended for a white television audience.

Salon's Alex Seitz-Wald has more, including a rundown of politicians and media figures who have made the same speculation. It's a talking point now: the idea that Romney wanted to invoke the "welfare queen" imagery of Reagan's hateful campaigns with footage of a crowd of African Americans booing the proposed removal of "government handouts."

If true, this marks the beginning of a shift in strategy when it comes to attacking the Affordable Care Act. Yesterday, it was "death panels." Today, it's "welfare and therefore black."
Edited by Reasor - 7/12/12 at 10:01am
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post #4061 of 10455
7/12/12 at 12:01pm

Did Romney go to the NAACP conference to shore up his republican base?

 

Also, did he lie about the span of time he was CEO of bain (felony)?

 

http://jezebel.com/5925455/is-mitt-romney-a-race-baiting-felon-possibly

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post #4062 of 10455
7/12/12 at 12:54pm
It appears that he lied to the Securities and Exchange Commission regardless of when he actually left the company, due to his inability to stick to a story.
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Originally Posted by Americablog View Post

Government documents filed by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital say Romney remained chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.

Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”

Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.

So at a minimum, either the 1999 claim that he had retired from Bain or the 2003 claim that he was still the company's CEO sole stockholder is untrue. He has lied on SEC documents either way.

If he was lying to the SEC, I wonder if he was disclosing his continued ownership of and employment by Bain Capital from 1999-2003 to the IRS.
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post #4063 of 10455
7/12/12 at 2:18pm

Sooooo Romney may have committed a felony?

 

The potential for pure unadulterated schadenfreude is strong in this one...

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post #4064 of 10455
7/12/12 at 2:23pm

But we've seen his birth certificate.

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post #4065 of 10455
7/12/12 at 2:26pm

Yes, but have we seen his long-form tax returns?

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post #4066 of 10455
7/12/12 at 3:01pm

Pshh... Taxes are un-American anyway!

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post #4067 of 10455
7/12/12 at 3:07pm

Obama's media team should be pushing the Bain thing hard:

 

http://wonkette.com/477977/by-left-bain-mitt-romney-actually-meant-continued-to-runown-100-ofchair-bain-for-years

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post #4068 of 10455
7/12/12 at 3:09pm
Please let Romey being guilty of tax evasion or perjury it'll make this election even more fun. Just when you think this election can't get any weirder. Honestly Jon Stewart can give his writing team a vacation with the amount of material Romney is giving him.
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post #4069 of 10455
7/12/12 at 3:12pm

Romney drops out.

 

Ron Paul is only dog left in race.

 

Best outcome or BESTEST outcome?

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post #4070 of 10455
7/12/12 at 3:18pm

Why do I have a feeling this is another one of these things that I'm going to get excited about only to see the Republican skate?

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post #4071 of 10455
7/12/12 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

Why do I have a feeling this is another one of these things that I'm going to get excited about only to see the Republican skate?

 

Because you've been paying attention for the last, oh, 30 years or so.  

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post #4072 of 10455
7/12/12 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by Master Shake View Post

Romney drops out.

Ron Paul is only dog left in race.

Best outcome or BESTEST outcome?

"Whoever Wins, we LOL."
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post #4073 of 10455
7/12/12 at 4:48pm

No wait wait even better

 

GINGRICH jumps back in.

 

Oh man, just the thought of Gingrich actually having to undergo public scrutiny while debating Obama...  The schadenfreude by itself could feed entire third world nations.

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post #4074 of 10455
7/12/12 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by Arturo RJ View Post

Please let Romey being guilty of tax evasion or perjury it'll make this election even more fun. Just when you think this election can't get any weirder. Honestly Jon Stewart can give his writing team a vacation with the amount of material Romney is giving him.

 

This could basically be his first show when he comes back:

 

"My name is Jon Stewart and this is The Daily Show."

 

*plays nonstop half-hour montage of recent bad Romney press*

 

"I'm Jon Stewart and this has been The Daily Show."

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post #4075 of 10455
7/12/12 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post

Obama's media team should be pushing the Bain thing hard:

 

http://wonkette.com/477977/by-left-bain-mitt-romney-actually-meant-continued-to-runown-100-ofchair-bain-for-years

 

Should be?

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post #4076 of 10455
7/13/12 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by Kevin Matchstick View Post

 

Should be?

 

Right.  Was. Is?  Wuzzle?

 

Anyway

 

http://wonkette.com/478122/romney-campaign-responds-to-bain-controv-oh-my-god-look-over-there-its-condi-rice#13422016583241&action=collapse_widget&id=2912000

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post #4077 of 10455
7/13/12 at 12:17pm

I could be wrong, but it seems like this is going to backfire a bit on Obama. They are really playing with Republican tactics this election cycle. No one deserves it more than Romney, though. He destroyed his opponents with negative ads during the primary. But it feels weird. Like it's going to bit him back at some point. In the bum area.

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post #4078 of 10455
7/13/12 at 12:22pm

That's the Chicago way.

 

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post #4079 of 10455
7/13/12 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by Reasor View Post
From just where in the fuck did Thurston fly in "his own" black people? Does he literally own some? Maybe on one of the islands where he stashes his money?
Mitt Romney, is this why you won't show us your tax records? Are you a slave owner?
ETA: And why did Jon Stewart pick this week to be on hiatus? A segment on today's NAACP speech would have been GOLD.

Hasn't it been a golden rule that, whenever the Daily Show takes a hiatus, something hilarious happens? 

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post #4080 of 10455
7/13/12 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin Matchstick View Post

I could be wrong, but it seems like this is going to backfire a bit on Obama. They are really playing with Republican tactics this election cycle. No one deserves it more than Romney, though. He destroyed his opponents with negative ads during the primary. But it feels weird. Like it's going to bit him back at some point. In the bum area.


Obama is in a tough place. He can't recycle the "Change" message and optimism of 2008, because frankly, things haven't improved a whole lot, and look to be getting worse in some respects (economic slowing in China, Euro crisis).

 

A majority of Americans dislike Obamacare, even though they like the law when broken down into its' component parts. So Obama can't tout Healthcare as a signature reform, and he can't afford to waste time and money educating people on the benefits of his major accomplishment while in office (which I'm sure burns him).

 

I think you are right about the current campaign tactics coming back to haunt the Obama campaign. When Romney provides so many real facts that damn him, there really is no need to do much beyond point to the man's own words, in their context.

 

I suspect we are going to see a campaign characterized by lots of noise but even less substance than usual.

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post #4081 of 10455
7/13/12 at 3:27pm

Woah, Romney is doing serious damage-control tonight, hitting the major networks that aren't fox:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/13/mitt-romney-network-interviews-abc-nbc-cbs_n_1671808.html

 

It's been an awfully cynical week for me, so I'm still thinking Obama will lose because corporate money, stupidity, and racism are his opponents, and they are powerful.

 

Of course he's got the big banks on his side.


Edited by MrBananaGrabber - 7/13/12 at 4:06pm
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post #4082 of 10455
7/13/12 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post

Woah, Romney is doing serious damage-control tonight, hitting the major networks that aren't fox:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/13/mitt-romney-network-interviews-abc-nbc-cbs_n_1671808.html

 

It's been an awfully cynical week for me, so I'm still thinking Obama will lose because of corporate money, stupidity, and racism are his opponents, and they are powerful.

 

Of course he's got the big banks on his side.

 

 

"Willard,  you have some 'splaining to do!"

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post #4083 of 10455
7/13/12 at 4:09pm

My right wing childhood friend on FB is a complete Fox zombie.  Everything I've ever presented to him about Romney has been easily written off by ammunition handed to him that morning from Heritage by way of Fox, Limbaugh, etc.  Tax dodging is "good business."  Fox has convinced these people that Romney's finances are the same as their own.  They take the paltry tax write-offs we regular folks get and see Romney's schemes as the same thing, which to me is appallingly simple but nonetheless that's what they think.  I don't think him committing perjury and bold-faced lying at every turn will affect Republicans who absorb the alternate Fox reality.  But maybe, if the so-called independents are paying attention, it could degrade his support from them.

 

And Cylon, Obama is himself touting a positive message with the basic tone of "we have been hit hard but things are improving; if we pass my jobs bill, they will get better whereas if we go back to the policies of the past, we've all seen the results" and also touting the components of Obamacare as they kick in.  The campaign is hitting the negatives about Romney but it seems to be a case of preemptive warfare since such a massive tsunami of money is poised to crash down on his head in the fall. 

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post #4084 of 10455
7/13/12 at 4:11pm

Actually from what I've been reading, Romney may have been CEO in name only: specifically that he left Bain suddenly to run the Olympics and Bain's Board of Directors were unsure how long he'd be gone or if he intended to return.

 

But it is irrelevant if Romney happened to OK a particular round of layoffs. He built a company devoted to doing that. There is actually a case to be made in favor of PE firms, but it's not a case that can be made in bright Day Glo colors, so instead Romney falls back on "Well I created jobs (at Bain Capital)".

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post #4085 of 10455
7/13/12 at 4:36pm

I think it could get pretty serious but because it's so complex it's not easy to summarize in bite size pieces in a way that would clearly resonate.  I think in any other era, Bain Capital's business would be considered cynical and unAmerican but we're living in through-the-looking-glass times.  Mr. Potter from It's a Wonderful Life has been given a makeover and profit at all costs mentality has been normalized.

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post #4086 of 10455
7/13/12 at 4:41pm

So I'm at Comic Con and, evidently, so is the 1%.  This is parked out in the harbor.

 

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post #4087 of 10455
7/13/12 at 4:51pm

Looks like Dennis Washington's yacht.

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post #4088 of 10455
7/13/12 at 6:38pm

He's still got that old thing??  *snicker*

 

Looooser.

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post #4089 of 10455
7/13/12 at 9:54pm

saw this over on C&L

 

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post #4090 of 10455
7/13/12 at 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by neoolong View Post

Looks like Dennis Washington's yacht.

 

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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

He's still got that old thing??  *snicker*

 

Looooser.

 

I just can't with that.  How many yachts do you have to land your helicopter on? 

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post #4091 of 10455
7/13/12 at 10:28pm
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Originally Posted by yt View Post

 

 

I just can't with that.  How many yachts do you have to land your helicopter on? 

 

Wait.... don't tell me.  I know this one!

 

Q: How many yachts do you have to land your helicopter on?

 

A: All of them.  If my helicopter can't fit on it, it's just a motorboat.

 

Did I get that right?  I always mess these up!

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post #4092 of 10455
7/14/12 at 12:02am

Haw haw.  But of course, Lovey. 

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post #4093 of 10455
7/14/12 at 9:20am

Found this interesting....

 

How the Mormons Make Money

 

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The Mormon Church is hardly the only religious institution to be less than forthcoming about its wealth; the Catholic Church has been equally opaque throughout history. On the other hand, says historian D. Michael Quinn, who is working on a book about the LDS Church’s finances and businesses, “The Mormon Church is very different than any other church. … Traditional Christianity and Judaism make a clear distinction between what is spiritual and what is temporal, while Mormon theology specifically denies that there is such a distinction.” To Latter-day Saints, opening megamalls, operating a billion-dollar media and insurance conglomerate, and running a Polynesian theme park are all part of doing God’s work. Says Quinn: “In the Mormon [leadership’s] worldview, it’s as spiritual to give alms to the poor, as the old phrase goes in the Biblical sense, as it is to make a million dollars.”

 

Quote:

According to an official church Welfare Services fact sheet, the church gave $1.3 billion in humanitarian aid in more than 178 countries and territories during the 25 years between 1985 and 2010. A fact sheet from the previous year indicates that less than one-third of the sum was monetary assistance, while the rest was in the form of “material assistance.” All in all, if one were to evenly distribute that $1.3 billion over a quarter-century, it would mean that the church gave $52 million annually. A study co-written by Cragun and recently published in Free Inquiry estimates that the Mormon Church donates only about 0.7 percent of its annual income to charity; the United Methodist Church gives about 29 percent.

 

....and we aren't we taxing churches because.....??

 

Also, I'm wondering what it would take to start a feud between Mormons and Scientologists?

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post #4094 of 10455
7/14/12 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by VTRan View Post


 

Also, I'm wondering what it would take to start a feud between Mormons and Scientologists?

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 What if someone started a rumor that Xenu was from Kobol?


Edited by Chaz - 7/14/12 at 4:10pm
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post #4095 of 10455
7/14/12 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by Chaz View Post

 What if someone started a rumor that Xenu was from Kobol?


good...good...

 

How about the Angel Moroni that visited Joseph Smith was actually Xenu in disguise?

 

An acquaintance came up with the idea of making a biographical film about Joseph Smith and either John Travolta or Tom Cruise stars in it.

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post #4096 of 10455
7/14/12 at 5:19pm

anyway....back to the topic at hand.

 

Anyone else catch this new Obama commercial? 

 

 

which kind of segues into this piece by Krugman "No Bain, No Gain"

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post #4097 of 10455
7/14/12 at 5:44pm

I think Willard is going down, personally. Obama is all too willing (gleeful, even) to rip Romney's fucking face off, and Romney's limp dick response conveys a shocking lack of preparedness.

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post #4098 of 10455
7/14/12 at 8:20pm

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post #4099 of 10455
7/14/12 at 9:02pm

Similarly:

 

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post #4100 of 10455
7/14/12 at 9:24pm

Here's an option for the political agnostics out there....

 

Quote:

 

Green Party Picks Mass. Doctor For Presidential Bid

 

A doctor who ran against Mitt Romney for Massachusetts governor a decade ago won the chance to challenge him again on Saturday, this time as the Green Party's presidential nominee.

 

Jill Stein, an internist from Lexington, Mass., blasted both Romney and President Barack Obama, saying both had become too dependent on donations from corporations in order to acquire office at the expense of the nation's citizens.

 

"We need real public servants who listen to the people not to the corporate lobbyists that funnel campaign checks into the big war chests," Stein told applauding supporters at a Holiday Inn in Baltimore. "That's what brought me to the Green Party, the only national party that is not bought and paid for by corporate money."

Stein acknowledges that her candidacy is a super long shot. Still, she notes that a growing number of people are expressing frustration with the two major political parties and she cites the Occupy Wall Street movement as an example of that.

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