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post #1 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:20pm
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Steve finally watches the Friedkin classic, after 25 years of ignoring it.

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post #2 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:24pm
I finally caught up with this just a few months ago. Fucking incredible. I think I've rewatched that freeway chase a dozen times since I've seen it.

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Nudity, violence and language... pretty much sums up the entire cop genre from that time
It features a cop actually saying "I'm getting to old for this shit." Glorious!
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post #3 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:31pm
Your slight against Miami Vice (vacant is the reputation from people that haven't seen it's best episodes) ignored, this movie was golden. It's cynicism actually goes along with Vice great and the ending is a keeper.
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post #4 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:40pm
Peterson is great in this. His little riff on Quentin Dailey is my fav line in the film in a movie full of great dialogue. .
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post #5 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:40pm
I haven't seen the show in ages, so you've got a point. I was referring more towards the fashion and fast lifestyle aspect in terms of the vacancy, and if I ever revisit the show I'd probably see more from your point of view. You're right on with the ending.
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post #6 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:41pm
It's a classic. Too bad we hardly get movies like this now.

And I too shall ignore the wrong opinion on Miami Vice. Watch some episodes from season 1 and 2, even 3 and you will change your tune Mr. Murphy.

And I can't remember what other posters you had on your wall - I remember it being mentioned on a CHUD podcast - but I do remember they were cringeworthy.
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post #7 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:44pm
Wow, really? Alright, I'll catch up on some Vice. I'll have no problem admitting I'm wrong.
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post #8 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:49pm
The show is a lot bleaker than people remember. It didn't look bleak, but the storylines often were.

If you have the time also check out Mann's show CRIME STORY. That show was often more of a downer than VICE. Plus it has Dennis Farina. And Darlanne Fluegel!
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post #9 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:50pm
One of the things I loved the most was how Petersen's assholery was so powerful it was literally virulent. He just turned people into assholes by simply interacting with them. And the film was completely unapologetic about it.
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post #10 of 20
11/4/10 at 12:50pm
Fluegel = SOLD.

I'll check it out.
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post #11 of 20
11/4/10 at 1:45pm
Yeah, don't sell Vice short. Check out Castillo backstory heavy episode "Bushido" for a great Olmos performance with a katana.
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post #12 of 20
11/4/10 at 2:47pm
This is a wonderfully subversive movie. You might know all about the ins and outs of the cop genre, and so you're nodding along with the appearance of the rogue but dedicated cop hero, more restrained partner, etc, until you realize how profoundly fucked up the movie is. For me, that 360 head turn happened around the freeway chase when I realized, maybe these guys aren't the good guys after all. I loved that.
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post #13 of 20
11/4/10 at 2:50pm
Peterson is so good in this (cock shot aside) that it pains me he didn't get more high profile work. Shouldn't have turned down Henry Hill buddy.
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post #14 of 20
11/4/10 at 2:55pm
He turned down Henry Hill? Why? Money issues?
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post #15 of 20
11/4/10 at 2:57pm
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It features a cop actually saying "I'm getting to old for this shit." Glorious!
I did some hard-hitting investigative journalism on this last year.
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post #16 of 20
11/4/10 at 2:58pm
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Peterson is so good in this (cock shot INCLUDED) that it pains me he didn't get more high profile work. Shouldn't have turned down Henry Hill buddy.
I had to fix that.

This film is all types of amazing. The car chase alone makes this film a classic. I have posted that on facebook and friends reply back about how just glorious it is. This was a film that was not of its time - I can't think of any other action film in the 80s that had really no one that wasn't an asshole. Normally I don't go for that - but you just cannot keep your eyes off of Peterson. He is just amazing. Just simply one of my favourite action films. And I love the tight jeans...
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post #17 of 20
11/4/10 at 3:18pm
The guy moves like an animal in this movie.
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post #18 of 20
11/4/10 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by James Woods' Career View Post
Peterson is so good in this (cock shot aside) that it pains me he didn't get more high profile work. Shouldn't have turned down Henry Hill buddy.
Yeah, and he followed this up with another classic, MANHUNTER. Dude could have been the 80's Steve McQueen.
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post #19 of 20
7/11/12 at 4:46am

I watched this for the first time last night. Well, I finished it for the first time last night. I started it over a year ago but couldn't get into it. It has its moments - I was certainly surprised by the ending. The car chase was fun, awesome even, but had a lot of WTF moments? Guys (FBI??) were literally coming out of nowhere with automatic weapons (an uzi!). It felt tacked on (and after watching the film and reading the Wiki, it sort of was). The acting was a little too stagey at times for me and some of the film was just bizarre.

Peterson was playing a wreckless SSA but scenes where he's being a dick to his female informant seemed oddly out of place and character (and then his partner turns around and does the same thing to her at the end of the film - weird vibe to the whole thing). Did anyone catch the post credits scene? There's a snippet from earlier in the film (which is also replayed at the end when his partner is in effect, turning into Chance, during the "you work for me now" scene). It's Peterson standing there, looking creepy, from the sex scene earlier in the film. It pretty much summed up how bizzaro this film was at times.
 

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post #20 of 20
7/11/12 at 5:31am

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