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Originally Posted by dajuice7 
While I was only half serious, I am, in fact, convinced that an idealized portrayal of the sixties seen in fictional shows like Mad Men (and other eras also: see, That 70s Show and Boardwalk Empire) fool naive people into thinking those were "better" times - fancier, posh days where the average Dick and Jane looked and acted just like Don Draper and Joan Holloway. But for every Iraq/Afghanistan, there is a Vietnam and Cuban Missile Crisis, for every Sarah Palin there is a Nixon and Goldwater, for every Katrina there is a Hurricane Camille. We can't be fooled into thinking that because they didn't have iPhones at the dinner table nor e-mailed Thank Yous that somehow that made it a better time. Even Mad Men delves into the darker issues that lurked beneath the perfect veneer of the so-callednwell-to-do.
Aside: There is no doubt that Mad Men played an influential role in that list. The first image is of Don Draper himself and most of the entries recall the mid-1900s. I don't think that can be denied. [In fact, on that very page there is a link to a Let's Bring Back the Mad Men list which starts off with the very same item, Hats for Men.]
My issue with lists like this (or moreso the reaction to these lists) is that they devalue the things we have today because they're not seen as being as "glamorous" as train restaurants and discussion societies. And these fantasy lists encourage us to separate the heavy, important issues and struggles of those times (such as civil rights, women's rights, the draft, class struggle, etc) from the more idealistic images like hot-air balloons and fountain pens that we love to wax nostalgic about.
Now, I like Game Nights, Libraries, and Manners as much as the next guy, and I'm certainly not saying there's no entertainment value in compiling these lists. I was an Art History major so I spent the majority of my academic days waxing nostalgic about fancy hotel lobbies and photographic journals of road trips, manual cameras and pocketwatches, but when you make statements like...
...you're forgetting that for most people living in those eras, times were just as hard and just as fucked up as we think of our current day, and you're advocating not for things that would improve our quality of life but for things that would supposedly add glitz to our everyday lives. Agent Z nailed it when he said...
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While I can certainly understand that you have a unique cultural perspective on this issue, I can only say that I do not idolize those times by any means. For many people, I can see how perhaps pocket watches ETC might unavoidably call to mind images of a time of oppression. All I can tell you is that I have great memories of big family dinners , and in those memories no one talked on their cell phone at the table. I don't understand why the suggestions on the list can't just be taken at face value. I am under no illusions that people were somehow more cultured in the distant past, but I think we should be able to look at our history with clear eyes, and comb through to find and carry forward the things that are worthwhile.
For example: I am a big supporter of high speed rail, and I think train dining is really cool*. Who wouldn't want to eat in a restaurant while traveling swiftly in a train? And the worth of a hand written thank you note? For me at least, it's not it's nostalgic value
Discussion groups/book clubs ETC make for neutral non threatening social situations, and for me at least their appeal is hardly based in glamor (though it's still fun to think of yourself attending such an event in the company of someone like Eleanor Roosevent... as my Grandmother on my dad's side did!)
As for hats..
I just think hats are cool, and MAD MEN is the most visible example of their coolness in pop culture right now. If this list had been made 10 years ago, you might have LA CONFIDENTIAL or INDIANA JONES as photo references. I don't see why men should have to abandon such iconic fashion accessories just because someone sometime decreed them to be out of style. If everyone agrees that they are awesome, can't they just come back?
Additionally,
I think that hats are cool enough to warrant mention in both the general and MAD MEN specific list, though I think the existence of the MAD MEN list proves that the general interest list was conceived independently
*I've only been on a train a few times, but it's great IMHO. That has less to do with romanticism than the fact I find train travel and trains themselves interesting and enjoyable. I get car sick very easily, so a train would be my preferred mode of transit for most trips if it were an option. There used to be cable cars all over in my area, connecting every town within 25 miles. Now they're torn up, and since I'm without a ride I am often stranded.
EDIT: And just for the record, in my ideal world we'd all be wearing tunicas and togas. I attended several JCL functions back in the day where people all wore period appropriate Roman regalia and it was fantastic